new book that offers no juice/even bets?

**bigboydan** · 08-25-08, 07:59 PM

I haven't heard much about them other than one of there representives posts on the forum. However, let me see what more I can find out about them.

**ktorp18** · 08-25-08, 09:32 PM

well here's what i got so far...

i deposited the minimum 20 bucks and bet 10 of it on the phillies and won.
i withdrew my 30 by a withdraw method through revolution money exchange. it looks like a paypal type service with no fees. i got the 30 bucks so im gonna keep using it for now. i looked up their WHOIS too...

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MYBETEX.COM
Created on: 24-Jun-08
Expires on: 24-Jun-09
Last Updated on: 24-Jun-08

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration MYBETEX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration MYBETEX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.CYBERCASTCO.COM
NS2.CYBERCASTCO.COM

Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited

i think this may be the same people who do creditwagering.com because their WHOIS info is very similar to that.

**ktorp18** · 08-26-08, 12:09 PM

more people should try out this book so i actually have someone to place a bet against...

**topgame85** · 08-26-08, 05:05 PM

Located in Arizona? That seems highly illegal

**coldhardfacts** · 08-26-08, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by topgame85

Located in Arizona? That seems highly illegal

Maybe not, if they're not taking any juice. That makes it more like a contest, which in most states is not illegal.

I don't see how they get their edge, though.

**Mudcat** · 08-26-08, 05:51 PM

This totally reminds me of a scam that ran out of the states 3-4 years back. They tried to call themselves a club rather than a sportsbook. They offered no juice and had a few shills running around for awhile.

A bunch of people ended up getting stiffed.

I remember one of the shills ended up getting stiffed himself (bengalsfan??) which led to some funny stuff on the forum as he went looking for sympathy. Or maybe I'm mixing up my stiff jobs but there was definitely a place in that same part of the states that was trying to call itself club and ended up being a disaster.

I'm killing myself trying to remember the name. It will come to me. I bet Dozer remembers. It was a little bit before this forum started.

Point being: I wouldn't touch this.

**topgame85** · 08-26-08, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by coldhardfacts

Maybe not, if they're not taking any juice. That makes it more like a contest, which in most states is not illegal.

I don't see how they get their edge, though.

Most states it is legal for about a $50 to $100 person to person bet if noone is collecting an "edge" or percentage cut rather aka no middleman, but how exactly would the managers of the site get anything out of it? seems shady

**Mudcat** · 08-26-08, 06:40 PM

Wagerfree. That's what I was trying to remember. Similar scam run out of Nevada.

The operator, Garet Bradford, was eventually charged with and pled guilty to a felony. Unfortunately the reports go right up to the point of announcing his sentencing date but don't state the sentence. Maybe he's back.

I also don't recall how the lawsuits went but I don't think they got much blood out of that stone.

And yes, let me say this loud and clear. A BUNCH OF PEOPLE GOT RIPPED OFF FOR BIG DOLLARS!!! IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS!!!

Sorry, it gets frustrating. I remember warning people about WagerFree and how it couldn't possibly work but people couldn't see through the shills who were saying everything was great. People called me a stuffy old poop and insisted on playing there.

Oh well.

Perhaps this is a glance into the future for anyone thinking of trying this. Read from bottom upwards to follow the chronolgy.

**sofun** · 08-26-08, 07:28 PM

the mybetex.com was down, can't log in any more

**ktorp18** · 08-27-08, 01:50 AM

i already won money and withdrew it to make sure they actually do withdrawals, and i don't think the no juice thing is permanent. on the homepage says it's just until they get 50 users.

**Bill Dozer** · 08-27-08, 02:14 AM

The Whois info is listing the contact details for the proxy service that keeps the real admin details private. You see a lot of them in Virginia for Network Solutions.

**ktorp18** · 08-27-08, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by sofun

the mybetex.com was down, can't log in any more

yeah i tried to get on it last night and it wasn't working, but it looks like it's back up now

**sickler** · 11-15-08, 12:59 AM

Update on this?

**bigboydan** · 11-15-08, 01:16 AM

That site seems to be down for me sir.

there's no such domain registered in Plesk

Also, I did noticed that they had an affiliation with [iSBRFORUM]b4playing[/iSBRFORUM], which was a scam casino site. Needless to say this site is down as well.

**sickler** · 11-15-08, 01:33 AM

Dan, just another one of those too good to be true offers. Story of my life.

No juice indeed.

**bigboydan** · 11-15-08, 01:44 AM

Not a real shocker sir. I mean their was a shill over at covers pumping up this place like they were the greatest book out there.

**fiveteamer** · 11-15-08, 01:54 AM

see Aces Gold.

**Mudcat** · 11-15-08, 02:53 PM

Mybetex did get one #1 vote in the Top Sportsbook poll.

See if you can guess who cast it.

**Keith Richard** · 11-15-08, 08:53 PM

mybetex.com.I think only people who wear cowboy hats and boots were allowed to play here.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.