Bonus vs. Freeplay

[EXhoosier10]

Option of taking a $250 free play at betJM or a $100 cash at 5dimes. I save 200 points with the cash.

Any opinions?

[roninchow]

Hypothesis: Imagine odds = 2 no juice
prob=0.5

BETJM If you win +250 if you lost 0
EV= 0.5*250= 125

5DIMES If you win +250+100 if you lost -150
EV=0.5*350-0.5*150 = 100


BETJM but the difference is small and also 5Dimes has reduced juice and save points.

[BET THE HOOK]

I say BetJam as well.

[dikefale]

If you bet parlay and odds bigger then +100 free play is better.

[EXhoosier10]

thanks. I was thinking of goin with jamaica especially with baseball season coming up where dogs are good plays and I can get more value, but i wasn't sure how people felt about 5dimes reduced juice.

[David]

The free play is a better value.

[secretstash]

forget the bonus.. betjm has some of the best mlb lines hands down.. so once u clear the bonus/fp then they will have better lines than 5dimes imo (especially since 5dimes punishes u when u take a bonus there and u get no -105)

-stash

[Hareeba!]

If you know how to use freeplays you should be able to convert them to free cash at least 75% of the time

[cc440unn]

I take the money

[Hareeba!]

I take the money

then you don't know what you're missing out on

[cc440unn]

then you don't know what you're missing out on

??????

[Hareeba!]

??????

this subject has been debated at length several times

try some searches and you may discover the folly of passing up freebets in favour of significantly less cash

[cc440unn]

this subject has been debated at length several times

try some searches and you may discover the folly of passing up freebets in favour of significantly less cash

Like you can see im not posting here since alot of time. And im not seaching in sarchbar each time im giving my opinion in a a thread.

Im just saying than right now, without any info, im taking the money first.

I never receive any freeplay...only cash bonus. So i dont know whats the best strategy to use with freeplay and So if this is more profitable to get 250 freeplay or 100$.

My opinion is obv less good than yours becozz you have more information about this.

And just a question for you for dont post 2 times.. I know youre taking 250 freeplay before 100$...so for you 100$ = how many in freeplay. It will give me a better idea of the value.

-cc440unn

[Hareeba!]

Like you can see im not posting here since alot of time. And im not seaching in sarchbar each time im giving my opinion in a a thread.

Im just saying than right now, without any info, im taking the money first.

I never receive any freeplay...only cash bonus. So i dont know whats the best strategy to use with freeplay and So if this is more profitable to get 250 freeplay or 100$.

My opinion is obv less good than yours becozz you have more information about this.

And just a question for you for dont post 2 times.. I know youre taking 250 freeplay before 100$...so for you 100$ = how many in freeplay. It will give me a better idea of the value.

-cc440unn

as I said, I estimate that overall on freeplays I turn them into at least $75 cash for every $100 of freeplay

you need however to be mindful of the rules of each establishment and any rollover conditions

BJam is a good place I've found to cash points for freeplays

Having a Betfair account is a huge advantage in optimising the value of freeplays

[cc440unn]

hii you have to put your 100 freeplay on a -133 lines and win for get your 75$

[Hareeba!]

hii you have to put your 100 freeplay on a -133 lines and win for get your 75$

not me

[LVHerbie]

hii you have to put your 100 freeplay on a -133 lines and win for get your 75$

You want to bet either three team parlays or big dogs with your freeplay... As the previous poster alluded to you can scalp out the bet if you have a low juice option at another book to lock in a given percentage of the profit....

[cc440unn]

you guys are probably right. And of course im probably wrong here. I only wanna know why im wrong.

I mean. I can understand that you can play nice parley with freeplay for try to win a little jackpot. but with 100 freeplay hareeba. you will need to put all of it on a 1.75 lines and win for get 75$. I dont understand why ur saying no....

[DBurton81]

Always take the cash unless you are going to do a parlay

[cc440unn]

Always take the cash unless you are going to do a parlay

It was i was thinking

[Hareeba!]

Always take the cash unless you are going to do a parlay

parlay not necessary
back a losing dog is the way to go

[Cookie Monster]

The freeplay is way better value than the cash. If freeplay moneyline dogs are allowed, the freeplay is worth 70%+; if parlays are allowed, you can get even more.

In short, if you are clueless, it is a wash; if you know how to get good value for the freeplays, the fp wins hands down.

[Hareeba!]

The freeplay is way better value than the cash. If freeplay moneyline dogs are allowed, the freeplay is worth 70%+; if parlays are allowed, you can get even more.

In short, if you are clueless, it is a wash; if you know how to get good value for the freeplays, the fp wins hands down.

[DevilCheese]

the freeplay... only problem is you would need a lot of cash in another book to back the big dog on the freeplay and if the dog hits thats a ton of rollover.. or break it into multiple smaller bets but then odds are greater of one of the dogs hitting

[Hareeba!]

the freeplay... only problem is you would need a lot of cash in another book to back the big dog on the freeplay and if the dog hits thats a ton of rollover.. or break it into multiple smaller bets but then odds are greater of one of the dogs hitting

" a lot of cash" ?

how big a freeplay are you buying ?

you don't have to use it all up at once

[meckis]

Free play has better value in this case

[Hareeba!]

Cash!

loser, newbie or amateur

[mikeanite]

If you bet parlay and odds bigger then +100 free play is better.

ya if you hit, you gotta rollover the winning instead

[Hareeba!]

Free plays usually have free play restrictions and the roll is based on the winnings, so cash is better. Hareeba go fuk yourself!

loser

site is full of discussion on this issue with strategy and mathematical proof to back it up but some people just don't care to learn from successful experienced players who have taken the trouble to explain

your loss

[Hareeba!]

Not really, and even though I've been doing this for 10 yrs I appreciate "successful experienced players" feedback. I just don't like the way you carry yourself and you are far from helpful.

I alerted an earlier poster in this thread to the fact that the issue has been covered extensively.

If that's not enough help then too bad. Hopefully there are some smarter guys who take the trouble to search and learn.

I am not going to provide the full strategy and proof every time some newcomer raises the issue.

Would it be more helpful just to say nothing ?

[Greekbet]

I prefer better betjamaica 250 free play of course!

[Hareeba!]

No doubt you may have go information Hareeba but you lose credibility when you attack people on a personal level.

yeah I see your point but given that the subject even in this thread had had some good advice and discussion posted can you not see that posting a simple response saying "Cash" with no attempt at debating why is equivalent to arrogant dismissal of the foregoing?

to my mind this question is not even one of opinion .. it is a clear case of fact that freeplays properly used are better than takeing the cash option in almost all cases

[thechaoz]

The freeplay is way better value than the cash. If freeplay moneyline dogs are allowed, the freeplay is worth 70%+; if parlays are allowed, you can get even more. In short, if you are clueless, it is a wash; if you know how to get good value for the freeplays, the fp wins hands down.

Cookie monster showed me how to do this. Basically you parlay 3 games the max possible ways (is it 8?) I have the spread sheet if you pm me. Obv you have to rollover but you will be betting anyway so no problem there.

[nijole]

Bonus is better for me.

[Stacocakes]

Do all books allow you to bet those 8 3 game parlays?