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    They are using a fake license seal on the website. :\


    Someone posted a while back that Brokerstorm is Mountbet under a different name.

    Any idea if true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They are using a fake license seal on the website. :\


    Someone posted a while back that Brokerstorm is Mountbet under a different name.

    Any idea if true?
    I have no way of knowing.

    The Whitehorse site looks like Mountbet so I wouldn't be surprised.

    https://whitehorse.tips/login

    An online search for brokerstorm shows many good reviews. Of course there still may be some risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    I have no way of knowing.

    The Whitehorse site looks like Mountbet so I wouldn't be surprised.

    https://whitehorse.tips/login

    An online search for brokerstorm shows many good reviews. Of course there still may be some risk.
    They have been mentioned here from time to time over the last 2 years. Don't recall anything bad, just asking about them. They do not seem to have gained traction for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They have been mentioned here from time to time over the last 2 years. Don't recall anything bad, just asking about them. They do not seem to have gained traction for some reason.
    I think they were not as popular as AC88 because they aren't as US friendly and you have to do everything by email/chat.

    The setup at AC88 is far superior (fast payouts etc) IMO. Problem is AC88 only has orbitx as far as I know and no lay betting on horses. If AC88 offers whitehorse I'd be more inclined to stick with them.


    I have no need or desire to use brokers other than for access to the betfair horses markets and the ability to "lay" horse bets. I have a Pinnacle account and don't need a broker for them.

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    i have used brokerstorm for mountbet before and they were excellent. Certainly better than betkeen. Just wish they had bitcoin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespeculator View Post
    i have used brokerstorm for mountbet before and they were excellent. Certainly better than betkeen. Just wish they had bitcoin.
    They do have bitcoin. Go on live chat and they will provide a btc address to send to.

    You can also email and they will get you setup.

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    how do they handle know the customer, verification and USA clients in or out

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    www.brokestorm.com and www.winfair24.com (before)
    same as
    www.mountbroker.com and https://betnfair.com/



    mountbet.com is really available?

    Sports Target licensed 148053 https://opencorporates.com/companies/cw/148053
    But , mountbroker and brokestorm, and betnfair number is 188141

    They do not seem suspicious but it is true that a broker like Betinasia or Asianconnect gives more credit and guarantee.
    Mountbet clones like betmantra or winfair24, betpiper or backlay.com, doesn't enabled

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    They do have bitcoin. Go on live chat and they will provide a btc address to send to.

    You can also email and they will get you setup.
    wow , this must be knew. Will give it a try , thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    how do they handle know the customer, verification and USA clients in or out
    anyone please ^^^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    anyone please ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Try them on chat and ask whatever you want to know.

    https://brokerstorm.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    how do they handle know the customer, verification and USA clients in or out

    have not deposited yet but will this weekend and give em a spin...CS said no KYC and U S welcome...Lay Markets on horses available cross fingers!

    BTC...1st withdrawal per month is free and every next withdrawal request in the same calendar month is charged with 1,5% fee

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    have not deposited yet but will this weekend and give em a spin...CS said no KYC and U S welcome...Lay Markets on horses available cross fingers!

    BTC...1st withdrawal per month is free and every next withdrawal request in the same calendar month is charged with 1,5% fee
    from what i remember of them the withdrawals can take up to 48 hours because they have to follow betfair . Not sure what that means, but they paid when i was with them

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    on Offen questions say:

    We would like to inform you that Winfair24 exchange will be inactive until 15/ 02/2020 due to a modification that is being proceeded by Betfair.

    This perhaps indicates that possibly on that date services such as betmantra, betpiper and winfair24 or mountbet itself are available in the Asian brokers that until now marketed them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They have been mentioned here from time to time over the last 2 years. Don't recall anything bad, just asking about them. They do not seem to have gained traction for some reason.
    They didn't have bitcoin when i was with them 2 years ago. They now have that , so it might become more popular , also no vpn needed

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    Stay far far away guys

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    You mean you don't advise this broker because you know something else?




    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Stay far far away guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by tingasdt View Post
    You mean you don't advise this broker because you know something else?
    Don't pay any attention to JJ's opinion. He believes that brokers can't be trusted.

    He has absolutely zero knowledge about them.

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    I am waiting for news about winfair24 / mountbet. On the brokerstorm page itself it refers to a possible activation towards the last 02/15.

    whitehorse looks good ... just like all the cousin sisters of mountbet worked ...

    Now ... I supposed that if this is real ... again brokers like Betinasia or Bookilink would soon offer again betmantra, betpiper, etc ...


    My experience with Betinasia and Assianconnect type brokers was always very good.


    Quote Originally Posted by PunterLog View Post
    Don't pay any attention to JJ's opinion. He believes that brokers can't be trusted.

    He has absolutely zero knowledge about them.

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    i joined and the sign up was very easy through the online chat. Whitehorse has excellent site , you can lay horses but there are no place options even for UK racing. The big test is always payouts, will update when i get to that point. The in play is much than betkeen IMO

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    Your opinion is appreciated.
    Betkeen has its peculiar and different operation from any other betfair clone, also in terms of commissions.
    But the operation that was achieved with the mountbet clones are far superior in terms of fluidity, even bets and even betting positioning.
    Also more fluidity than Orbitx, imho.

    I will be encouraged to do a small test with real funds

    Quote Originally Posted by thespeculator View Post
    i joined and the sign up was very easy through the online chat. Whitehorse has excellent site , you can lay horses but there are no place options even for UK racing. The big test is always payouts, will update when i get to that point. The in play is much than betkeen IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by tingasdt View Post
    Your opinion is appreciated.
    Betkeen has its peculiar and different operation from any other betfair clone, also in terms of commissions.
    But the operation that was achieved with the mountbet clones are far superior in terms of fluidity, even bets and even betting positioning.
    Also more fluidity than Orbitx, imho.

    I will be encouraged to do a small test with real funds
    whitehorse is very much like mountbet and website is better than orbitx. Betkeen i don't like you can only withdraw profits once a week. You should be able to opt out of that sharing. But betkeen pays very quickly even though it says 15 hours on site, it is usually 2-3 hours for bitcoin

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    have not deposited yet but will this weekend and give em a spin...CS said no KYC and U S welcome...Lay Markets on horses available cross fingers!

    BTC...1st withdrawal per month is free and every next withdrawal request in the same calendar month is charged with 1,5% fee
    how was your spin

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    As far as I know, mountbet and betpiper are closed. I got an email few weeks that betfair do not allow them to do business as affiliate site.

    Meanwhile I received an new mail from https://www.fairbetbroker.com/ offering orbit exchange account with 3% commission .

    I think that all of them are somehow connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euronet View Post
    As far as I know, mountbet and betpiper are closed. I got an email few weeks that betfair do not allow them to do business as affiliate site.

    Meanwhile I received an new mail from https://www.fairbetbroker.com/ offering orbit exchange account with 3% commission .

    I think that all of them are somehow connected.
    Got the same email, but I don't know why I don't trust orbit, to much story's about closed account because of funds passing, anybody that uses them?
    And yes I can confirm that unfortunately betpiper is gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by tingasdt View Post
    You mean you don't advise this broker because you know something else?
    This time I agree with JJ.
    I was initially happy to use Odsy88 who offered Orbit accounts - no kyc and Bitcoin only.

    Fast forward they now do kyc and had several issues already.

    Any other agent claiming something similar is playing with fire. I'd definitely stay away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arie1985 View Post
    This time I agree with JJ.
    I was initially happy to use Odsy88 who offered Orbit accounts - no kyc and Bitcoin only.

    Fast forward they now do kyc and had several issues already.

    Any other agent claiming something similar is playing with fire. I'd definitely stay away.
    The problem is that too many guys try to get around Orbitx commission increase when they hit good by opening new fresh accounts w same agent. They get KYC'd then get stuck. Optional was right that any outfit that promises no KYC 100% is just asking for trouble. I have been using Odysy88 as my #1 agent since the AC88 Orbitx increases and all has been great outside of the horse lay options gone bye bye. They pay faster then AC88 and CS is prompt and professional. Arie, I know you are like me and like to lay horses plus like to get paid fast. Have you found any other reliable sites that offer outside of this the OP suggested?

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    Does anyone know lotusbook.io broker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tingasdt View Post
    Does anyone know lotusbook.io broker?
    This is only for Indian, it's local Indian exchange run through local bookies.

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    Any update on these guys? Are you still able to get paid? Still able to lay? Thanks.

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    The new betfair clones' websites Whitehorse.tips and Turf7.com look pretty suspicious since they are not available for viewing by unregistered visitors. Only Orbitxch.com is the reliable and transparent clone IMHO.










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    When I previously bet on betmantra and betpiper the interface was also not in sight and I never had any problems with providers

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    Excellent thread. I think the more we keep each other informed on the broker world, the better off we all are.

    Open Question: What are your favorite broker/s? Has anybody run into any payout problems, KYC related or otherwise, anywhere lately?

    FWIW, I use Odsy88 and haven't had any problems or KYC inquiries.

    But I'd like to expand into a second broker, so I'm all ears on this thread. I switched from AC88 when they had that weird spasm of KYC mania so I'm wondering about some of these newer ones, if anybody's got any advice for me.

    Thanks, guys. It always feels better as a team effort.

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    Upgrade.

    Brokerstorm has processed my withdrawal in record time ...

    in less than an hour

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