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    Betonline Shenanigans

    So I signed up for BOL (Last week or so) and took a bonus TDB2018 (100% deposited w/BTC) noticed the RO was 3000.00 which I thought was penetrating high but penetrate it lets go.

    So I start betting and winning so far my wins equal 2300 My Loss' are around 900 PUSHES are around 500

    Now hears wheres shit gets penetrating weird my rollover says 1500.00 still and my winnings are listed as 350 now by my math my winnings should be around 1400.00 now even if they counted DRAWS/PUSHS as a LOSS my winnings should still be around 1000.00



    Anyone got any ideas besides use another book (I Do BOOKMAKER and I love them)

    Edit: I have contacted both active BOL twitter people and have gotten some varying responses

    Edit: UPDATE rollover achieved....funds still not right but it doesn't matter because apparently if you use any BONUS you have to wait 30 days so Im going to just wait withdraw my funds and go back to mu usual books since BOL seems to not be the most player friendly book I have dealt with (Missing games in major sports series, lack of parlay options, would love to be able to have -1 MLB line and so much more) but hey whatever case closed if you love BOL good for you but my exp have bad horrible
    Last edited by EMP19E; 08-25-18 at 09:11 AM. Reason: UPDATE

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    How are these shenanigans by BOL? Simply check your grading history and if something is wrong, contact them. By coming here saying "my balance isn't correct because according to the "quick calculation I just did in my head, it should be roughly xxxx" you aren't going to get anywhere. Check your bets 1 by 1 and do the math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMP19E View Post
    So I signed up for BOL (Last week or so) and took a bonus TDB2018 (100% deposited w/BTC) noticed the RO was 3000.00 which I thought was penetrating high but penetrate it lets go.

    So I start betting and winning so far my wins equal 2300 My Loss' are around 900 PUSHES are around 500

    Now hears wheres shit gets penetrating weird my rollover says 1500.00 still and my winnings are listed as 350 now by my math my winnings should be around 1400.00 now even if they counted DRAWS/PUSHS as a LOSS my winnings should still be around 1000.00

    Anyone got any ideas besides use another book (I Do BOOKMAKER and I love them)

    Edit: I have contacted both active BOL twitter people and have gotten some varying responses

    They use the lesser of risk/win on each bet to calculate rollover.

    Can't really work out your exact point with the Risk/Win/Balance numbers you mention. But just DL your bet history into a spread sheet if you want to double check the rollover position they claim for you.

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    Optional is right. And that calculation method is not shenanigans. It makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They use the lesser of risk/win on each bet to calculate rollover.

    Can't really work out your exact point with the Risk/Win/Balance numbers you mention. But just DL your bet history into a spread sheet if you want to double check the rollover position they claim for you.

    Can't really work out your exact point with the Risk/Win/Balance numbers you mention. But just DL your bet history into a spread sheet if you want to double check the rollover position they claim for you.[/QUOTE]

    I have done that its almost like they count some wagers against to rollovers and others they ignore like my win amount should be according to my history should be around 900 but is 300.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMP19E View Post
    I have done that its almost like they count some wagers against to rollovers and others they ignore like my win amount should be according to my history should be around 900 but is 300.00
    Is your cash balance correct?

    Is it just that the history makes no sense?

    If you want to email the spreadsheet to cases@sportsbookreview.com I'd be happy to double check the rollover number for you.

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    edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Is your cash balance correct?

    Is it just that the history makes no sense?

    If you want to email the spreadsheet to cases@sportsbookreview.com I'd be happy to double check the rollover number for you.
    It would be nice if betonline provided on their website a transaction history with balances included. I am not saying shenanigans were involved, but shadily hiding that info should put every customer on alert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Is your cash balance correct?

    Is it just that the history makes no sense?

    If you want to email the spreadsheet to cases@sportsbookreview.com I'd be happy to double check the rollover number for you.
    Sent screenshots with my wagers and a breakdown of WINS / LOSS' /DRAWS

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba View Post
    It would be nice if betonline provided on their website a transaction history with balances included. I am not saying shenanigans were involved, but shadily hiding that info should put every customer on alert.
    That would be nice, I agree. But they certainly aren’t the only offshore sports book that has deemed it unimportant to provide this information for its customers.

    I know I’m only one data point. But I track my balance at all of my sportsbooks independently from their respective sites, and I’ve never found any shenanigans with my BetOnline balance. It’s always accurate.

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    If you bet on the fav, the price of to win is counted. if you bet 250 at -250 to win 100, only 100 is counted towards RO

    if you bet on a dog your original bet is only counted. If you bet 100 at +300 to win 300, only 100 is counted towards RO

    Pushes/canceled/ppd games DO NOT COUNT towards RO, if you bet on o/u 8, and the game total is at 8 and is a push IT DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS RO, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU BET ON IT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMP19E View Post

    Sent screenshots with my wagers and a breakdown of WINS / LOSS' /DRAWS
    Is your cash balance correct?


    No use sending me screenshots. I cannot run calculations on images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbayko View Post
    That would be nice, I agree. But they certainly aren’t the only offshore sports book that has deemed it unimportant to provide this information for its customers.

    I know I’m only one data point. But I track my balance at all of my sportsbooks independently from their respective sites, and I’ve never found any shenanigans with my BetOnline balance. It’s always accurate.
    what other websites dont provide a transaction history with corresponding balance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba View Post
    what other websites dont provide a transaction history with corresponding balance?
    Lowvig. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba View Post
    what other websites dont provide a transaction history with corresponding balance?
    I count 6 books I belong to which don't do it at all. Another small handful which do track balance but don't allow you to easily tie it back to closed wagers.

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    And that's not counting BOL/SB/LV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Is your cash balance correct?

    Last night the number I ran from my history were as followswagers won - 2273wagers lost 920wagers canceled 460Total spent 3.653


    No use sending me screenshots. I cannot run calculations on images.
    I'll have to get back to you been working with dave but when I added them up no they did not I have a list with what was won lost cancelled but I didnt take a shot of the balance It was like 3 am and I have just ate some meds so ah yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbayko View Post
    And that's not counting BOL/SB/LV
    Edit: this comment is completely out of context because one of my other replies wasn’t approved. Can Optional or another SBR mod please tell me what has happened to my account? Why must everything I do suddenly require mod approval? What changed?

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    MODS Please close thread its going nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba View Post
    It would be nice if betonline provided on their website a transaction history with balances included. I am not saying shenanigans were involved, but shadily hiding that info should put every customer on alert.
    Agree 100%. Said this forever before they kicked me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478 View Post
    Agree 100%. Said this forever before they kicked me out.
    for what "reason" did they kick you out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba View Post
    for what "reason" did they kick you out?
    Funny thing is I just called BOOKMAKER my goto they have anywhere from 8x10 RO and as soon as its completed your able to withdrawl so I have come to the conclusion penetrate BOL and the shady shit they do to hide the terms and conditions (Im no pro bettor) put still shen you send an ad saying 100% YADA YADA you could at least include the fact you havae to wait 30 days

    Also you can only parlay ML O/U RL which is garbage

    In fact penetrate it if i I never get my money from them I dont care Im talking it as a hard lesson and moving on and RECOMMENDING EVERY READ ALL 5 pages of your books TOS before having to put up with their shit

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