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  • Ale Ruiz Suarez
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-03-20
    • 12

    #1
    Premiumtrading stole my money
    PremiumTradings stole me the money that I deposit in their exchange. They asked me to send them some photos to verify my account, and after sending them everything they told me "
    Please note that your account has been closed since you'd breach not one, but several rules from site's T&C to which you agreed on upon registration." And now they are not answering me and they are not giving my money back when I have not broken any rule.
    They are penetrating SCAM so don´t deposit any money there. They can close your account in any time saying that you have broken their rules .
    Help me please recoverying my money back
    Last edited by Optional; 11-03-20, 02:45 PM. Reason: remove link
  • KnuckleHeadz
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-11-19
    • 8194

    #2
    Did the person go by the name RichBoy?
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    • Motorhead11
      SBR High Roller
      • 09-04-18
      • 238

      #3
      you posted same at arbusers forum 2 weeks ago. Now the topic has removed. Why? Premiumtradings has a representative there. What was their response?
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      • kkkkk
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-30-09
        • 523

        #4
        As far as I know, Premiumtradings are main sponsor of arbusers
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        • SportsBettor74
          SBR High Roller
          • 06-19-19
          • 184

          #5
          I can't find a listing for PremiumTrading here at SBR. Does anyone have an opinion on their rating? Like B or C, for example?
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          • Alfie White
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-02-17
            • 680

            #6
            It is difficult to rate them as such given that they are not a standard bookmaker - they are a betting agent. In that perspective (and in comparison to other services) I would put them as B-.

            OP
            Can you please explain what happened exactly, everything you have presented in the initial post is very vague and is lacking a lot of details.
            - Have you registered the account with all details correct? (country of residence, name, surname...)
            - How did you make a deposit - are those accounts in your personal ownership and your name is written as account holder?
            - What documents did you send to them?
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            • Ale Ruiz Suarez
              SBR Rookie
              • 11-03-20
              • 12

              #7
              Not it is not
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              • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                SBR Rookie
                • 11-03-20
                • 12

                #8
                They didnt tell me anything
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                • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 11-03-20
                  • 12

                  #9
                  1,3: I have registered the account with all the details correct. I sent them the ID, a Selfie, Driving Licence, Passport, Banks statement and residential document.
                  2: I make the deposit with bitcoin
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                  • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 11-03-20
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KnuckleHeadz
                    Did the person go by the name RichBoy?
                    Nope
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                    • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 11-03-20
                      • 12

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alfie White
                      It is difficult to rate them as such given that they are not a standard bookmaker - they are a betting agent. In that perspective (and in comparison to other services) I would put them as B-.

                      OP
                      Can you please explain what happened exactly, everything you have presented in the initial post is very vague and is lacking a lot of details.
                      - Have you registered the account with all details correct? (country of residence, name, surname...)
                      - How did you make a deposit - are those accounts in your personal ownership and your name is written as account holder?
                      - What documents did you send to them?
                      1,3: I have registered the account with all the details correct. I sent them the ID, a Selfie, Driving Licence, Passport, Banks statement and residential document.
                      2: I make the deposit with bitcoin
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                      • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 11-03-20
                        • 12

                        #12
                        They didnt do anything about
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                        • Alfie White
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-02-17
                          • 680

                          #13
                          How much did you deposit?

                          You say "their exchange" what do you mean by that? Did you move funds to OrbitX?

                          Did you generate any winnings with the funds you have deposited? How much was your balance with them prior to this?


                          Also, try to use "Reply with Quote" button when answering.
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                          • SportsBettor74
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 06-19-19
                            • 184

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alfie White
                            It is difficult to rate them as such given that they are not a standard bookmaker - they are a betting agent. In that perspective (and in comparison to other services) I would put them as B-.
                            Thanks - that's good to know.

                            Once you get into the C territory with books you risk things like no-pay or slow pay.

                            I think you are saying that for this book [in your experience] as long as your KYC is in order [correct address, correct documents, not from a prohibited country] then in the worst case you will still get paid.

                            I always double check my country is permitted and I always try to perform KYC up front when joining a new book.

                            For those books that are C and below - there are too many horror stories out there NOT to do this.
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                            • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 11-03-20
                              • 12

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Alfie White
                              How much did you deposit?

                              You say "their exchange" what do you mean by that? Did you move funds to OrbitX?

                              Did you generate any winnings with the funds you have deposited? How much was your balance with them prior to this?


                              Also, try to use "Reply with Quote" button when answering.
                              In their BlackBetInAsia account. I deposited like 13k and when they stole my money they were 4k left in the account.
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                              • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 11-03-20
                                • 12

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SportsBettor74
                                Thanks - that's good to know.

                                Once you get into the C territory with books you risk things like no-pay or slow pay.

                                I think you are saying that for this book [in your experience] as long as your KYC is in order [correct address, correct documents, not from a prohibited country] then in the worst case you will still get paid.

                                I always double check my country is permitted and I always try to perform KYC up front when joining a new book.

                                For those books that are C and below - there are too many horror stories out there NOT to do this.
                                Yes I know... But when they stopped answering my mails I was afraid of loosing my money. And I am still waiting. I have sent them all the documents again in order to have my money back...
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                                • Alfie White
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-02-17
                                  • 680

                                  #17
                                  BetInAsia and PremiumTradings are 2 completely different brokers - can you please explain what exactly do you mean?

                                  Which site you deposit funds to?
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 60755

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SportsBettor74
                                    Thanks - that's good to know.

                                    Once you get into the C territory with books you risk things like no-pay or slow pay.

                                    I think you are saying that for this book [in your experience] as long as your KYC is in order [correct address, correct documents, not from a prohibited country] then in the worst case you will still get paid.

                                    I always double check my country is permitted and I always try to perform KYC up front when joining a new book.

                                    For those books that are C and below - there are too many horror stories out there NOT to do this.
                                    We don't rate brokers.

                                    But personally C- would the very top of the range I'd give them personally.

                                    Have not been open, honest and fair in dealing with disputes in the past.

                                    Personally I do not even want to mediate disputes involving them. They have shown their colors and cannot be trusted to mediate in good faith.
                                    .
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                                    • SportsBettor74
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 06-19-19
                                      • 184

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      We don't rate brokers.

                                      But personally C- would the very top of the range I'd give them personally.

                                      Have not been open, honest and fair in dealing with disputes in the past.

                                      Personally I do not even want to mediate disputes involving them. They have shown their colors and cannot be trusted to mediate in good faith.
                                      Thanks - this is very good to know! Based on this comment and the difficulties the OP is experiencing, I won't be opening an account with this outfit.
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                                      • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 11-03-20
                                        • 12

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Alfie White
                                        BetInAsia and PremiumTradings are 2 completely different brokers - can you please explain what exactly do you mean?

                                        Which site you deposit funds to?
                                        BlackMollybet account .
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                                        • Alfie White
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-02-17
                                          • 680

                                          #21
                                          That is not PremiumTradings, that is BIA; what happened exactly, can you please present a timeline of events so we can understand?
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                                          • BrickJames
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-05-11
                                            • 9749

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SportsBettor74
                                            I can't find a listing for PremiumTrading here at SBR. Does anyone have an opinion on their rating? Like B or C, for example?
                                            Probably because they are brokers and not a sportsbook.
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                                            • ouzoun
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-21-12
                                              • 322

                                              #23
                                              He made 3-4 topics in arbusers. Maybe that is why he was deleted. Mods do not allow forum to be used as a blackmail tool. Arbusers is foul of complains about Premium Tradings, so sponsorship is not the reason of deletion.
                                              I still dont understand why you mix Black with Premium Tradings. Black is only for BetInAsia clients.
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                                              • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 11-03-20
                                                • 12

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Alfie White
                                                That is not PremiumTradings, that is BIA; what happened exactly, can you please present a timeline of events so we can understand?
                                                Sorry, it is Nova88 account ( Is the same as mollybet ) .
                                                I verified the account. I sent all the documents and they accepted them all. I deposit via BTC like 13K € .
                                                Some weeks after, they were like 3K € left in the account. They asked me again to send them new documents. I sent them all again, and after that they told me that the account will be close cause I broke a rule ( they didnt tell me what rule ). And now they are not answering my emails, and they stole my money.
                                                They could close my account, but never could stay with my money.
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                                                • Ale Ruiz Suarez
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 11-03-20
                                                  • 12

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ouzoun
                                                  He made 3-4 topics in arbusers. Maybe that is why he was deleted. Mods do not allow forum to be used as a blackmail tool. Arbusers is foul of complains about Premium Tradings, so sponsorship is not the reason of deletion.
                                                  I still dont understand why you mix Black with Premium Tradings. Black is only for BetInAsia clients.

                                                  They didnt do anything to help me in arbusers and they delete my post...
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                                                  • Alfie White
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-02-17
                                                    • 680

                                                    #26
                                                    Man, you are involving 20 different sites and mixing things which confuses us here that want to help you.

                                                    Nova88 is Maxbet clone and lately they haven't been accepting any new action from the brokers so that is NOT Mollybet.


                                                    If you want anyone to help you, you need to collect your thoughts, explain exactly what happened (write a post) and then read it before posting. We don't have any knowledge what happened to you and your account, so you need to explain everything from the start, step by step. As it is now, you are pushing contradictory statements here and we don't understand anything.

                                                    Take a breather and focus your energy into explaining what happened rather than focusing energy into anger.
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                                                    • Motorhead11
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 09-04-18
                                                      • 238

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ale Ruiz Suarez
                                                      Sorry, it is Nova88 account ( Is the same as mollybet ) .
                                                      I verified the account. I sent all the documents and they accepted them all. I deposit via BTC like 13K € .
                                                      Some weeks after, they were like 3K € left in the account. They asked me again to send them new documents. I sent them all again, and after that they told me that the account will be close cause I broke a rule ( they didnt tell me what rule ). And now they are not answering my emails, and they stole my money.
                                                      They could close my account, but never could stay with my money.
                                                      Nova88 is IBC clone, mollybet is diferrent.

                                                      They have 88% forced position on Nova88 accounts so they are practically worthless.

                                                      So to summarize, they stole you 3k even you were 10k in loss? It is weird, hope someone can help you
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