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  • newfiepicks
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-31-20
    • 41

    #1
    Horse Matchups
    It looks like Betanysports is reducing the amount of other sports they offer and horse Matchups has been given the chop. Does anyone know of any other sites that offer horse matchups.

    I know of two sites looselines (low limits and slow to add the matchups) and betonline(best I've found for matchups) but looking for others that offer horse matchups.

    Thanks in advance
  • Colonist
    SBR High Roller
    • 05-24-20
    • 203

    #2
    Originally posted by newfiepicks
    It looks like Betanysports is reducing the amount of other sports they offer and horse Matchups has been given the chop. Does anyone know of any other sites that offer horse matchups.

    I know of two sites looselines (low limits and slow to add the matchups) and betonline(best I've found for matchups) but looking for others that offer horse matchups.

    Thanks in advance
    Bovada just did away with their daily fixed odds horse wagering platform. It was easy money before they limited me. They have horse matchups on big days only. Betonline/Lowvig are the best for horse matchups. Has Betanysports eliminated the horse matchups all together? I didn't know that they offered it. I'll check out looselines. When do they post their matchups?
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    • Colonist
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-24-20
      • 203

      #3
      Also, they just increased the juice for horse matchups on Betonline. I guess they were getting beat.
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      • littlekona
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-19-15
        • 5242

        #4
        BOL is best i found for usa..for higher limits but less selection betfair agent accounts like orbitx offer but its very limited....
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        • Ksherm
          SBR MVP
          • 07-13-10
          • 1067

          #5
          Betus does
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          • newfiepicks
            SBR Rookie
            • 05-31-20
            • 41

            #6
            Originally posted by Colonist
            Bovada just did away with their daily fixed odds horse wagering platform. It was easy money before they limited me. They have horse matchups on big days only. Betonline/Lowvig are the best for horse matchups. Has Betanysports eliminated the horse matchups all together? I didn't know that they offered it. I'll check out looselines. When do they post their matchups?
            BAS support told me they eliminated it altogether. Looselines are pretty slow to post their matchups usually around 10-11am EST they start to show up. But they do keep them longer than BOL. BOL removes each matchup about 2 hours before post time. I believe LL keeps them an extra hour. BOL limits me to $200 and LL limits me to $100. BAS allowed me to go up to $350 which is why I preferred them.

            BOL also has a smattering of AUS matchups though I rarely see them on looselines.
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            • Colonist
              SBR High Roller
              • 05-24-20
              • 203

              #7
              Originally posted by newfiepicks
              BAS support told me they eliminated it altogether. Looselines are pretty slow to post their matchups usually around 10-11am EST they start to show up. But they do keep them longer than BOL. BOL removes each matchup about 2 hours before post time. I believe LL keeps them an extra hour. BOL limits me to $200 and LL limits me to $100. BAS allowed me to go up to $350 which is why I preferred them.

              BOL also has a smattering of AUS matchups though I rarely see them on looselines.

              Very interesting. I wish I had known about BAS. BOL limits me to $200 as well. Hopefully, they won't reduce that more. Bovada reduced me to $10. BOL posts theirs at around 4AM EST. I will look at LL. Please share if you know of any others. I will look at BETUS tomorrow as well.
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              • trytrytry
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-13-06
                • 23649

                #8
                Originally posted by newfiepicks
                It looks like Betanysports is reducing the amount of other sports they offer and horse Matchups has been given the chop. Does anyone know of any other sites that offer horse matchups.

                I know of two sites looselines (low limits and slow to add the matchups) and betonline(best I've found for matchups) but looking for others that offer horse matchups.

                Thanks in advance
                ???

                Other Sports Horses Spread Money Line Total Points
                Philadelphia - Race 7 - Matchups - Bensalem, PA - Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:37 PM
                10701 Our Stormin Norman -155
                10702 Tomasco +125
                10703 G Daddy -130
                10704 Strictly the Best +100
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                • Colonist
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 05-24-20
                  • 203

                  #9
                  Originally posted by trytrytry
                  ???

                  Other Sports Horses Spread Money Line Total Points
                  Philadelphia - Race 7 - Matchups - Bensalem, PA - Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:37 PM
                  10701 Our Stormin Norman -155
                  10702 Tomasco +125
                  10703 G Daddy -130
                  10704 Strictly the Best +100
                  Is that from Betanysports? Those are horses that are competing today @ Parx
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                  • Colonist
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-24-20
                    • 203

                    #10
                    Originally posted by trytrytry
                    ???

                    Other Sports Horses Spread Money Line Total Points
                    Philadelphia - Race 7 - Matchups - Bensalem, PA - Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:37 PM
                    10701 Our Stormin Norman -155
                    10702 Tomasco +125
                    10703 G Daddy -130
                    10704 Strictly the Best +100
                    I just spoke with Betanysports. This paste isn't from their site.
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                    • trytrytry
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-13-06
                      • 23649

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Colonist
                      Is that from Betanysports? Those are horses that are competing today @ Parx
                      \
                      yes
                      they show all their offerings and live lines off their web site, they had two track with matchups today, Phil and indiana Grand
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                      • newfiepicks
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 05-31-20
                        • 41

                        #12
                        Originally posted by trytrytry
                        \
                        yes
                        they show all their offerings and live lines off their web site, they had two track with matchups today, Phil and indiana Grand
                        https://wager.betanysports.eu/livelines/
                        Yeah, still showing on their livelines page but they don't give you a way to bet them when you log in. Also got rid of table tennis, Darts, Volleyball, Handball and Rugby. They told me they are trying to greatly reduce their exposure to "Other" sports.
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                        • trytrytry
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-13-06
                          • 23649

                          #13
                          Originally posted by newfiepicks
                          Yeah, still showing on their livelines page but they don't give you a way to bet them when you log in. Also got rid of table tennis, Darts, Volleyball, Handball and Rugby. They told me they are trying to greatly reduce their exposure to "Other" sports.
                          interesting did not know that. good info. it seems the lines do update however so somebody is hitting them or some source its allowed?
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                          • Judge Crater
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-05-20
                            • 2024

                            #14
                            Looks like everyone will be reducing the horse matchups eventually
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                            • newfiepicks
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 05-31-20
                              • 41

                              #15
                              Also wanted to add that if you do bet on Horse matchups at BOL be sure to double check all the gradings. In the past 6 months I've had close to 10 bets graded incorrectly.

                              Normally they are pretty quick to fix once I contact them. I did have one from this past Saturday that they haven't fixed yet. This is what I sent them after they responded to my incorrect grading saying it was graded correctly and my horse finished 5th when in fact he was scratched:

                              Wager# 5025XXXXXX-1
                              Wager: Horse Matchups - Woodbine Matchups - October - 24 - Race 6 - Liverpool Man -115
                              Current Grade: Loss
                              Expected Grade: Canceled (due to scratch)


                              Sources showing correct result:


                              1) https://www.equibase.com/static/char...0CAN6-EQB.html


                              Scratched horses:
                              Royal Bourbon (Also-Eligible) , Jocularity (Stewards) , Liverpool Man (Veterinarian)


                              2) https://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRace...=20201024&RN=6

                              Scratched- LiverpoolMan,Jocularity (12Sep20«WO ¤),RoyalBourbon(08Oct20¨WOª)
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                              • Colonist
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 05-24-20
                                • 203

                                #16
                                Originally posted by newfiepicks
                                Also wanted to add that if you do bet on Horse matchups at BOL be sure to double check all the gradings. In the past 6 months I've had close to 10 bets graded incorrectly.

                                Normally they are pretty quick to fix once I contact them. I did have one from this past Saturday that they haven't fixed yet. This is what I sent them after they responded to my incorrect grading saying it was graded correctly and my horse finished 5th when in fact he was scratched:

                                Wager# 5025XXXXXX-1
                                Wager: Horse Matchups - Woodbine Matchups - October - 24 - Race 6 - Liverpool Man -115
                                Current Grade: Loss
                                Expected Grade: Canceled (due to scratch)


                                Sources showing correct result:


                                1) https://www.equibase.com/static/char...0CAN6-EQB.html


                                Scratched horses:
                                Royal Bourbon (Also-Eligible) , Jocularity (Stewards) , Liverpool Man (Veterinarian)


                                2) https://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRace...=20201024&RN=6

                                Scratched- LiverpoolMan,Jocularity (12Sep20«WO ¤),RoyalBourbon(08Oct20¨WOª)
                                Yup, I get incorrect horse matchup gradings all the time that I need to spend time on to have them correct. I currently have one from Sunday and yesterday that am waiting for them to correct. Oddly, the incorrect gradings have never been in my favor.
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                                • newfiepicks
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 05-31-20
                                  • 41

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Colonist
                                  Yup, I get incorrect horse matchup gradings all the time that I need to spend time on to have them correct. I currently have one from Sunday and yesterday that am waiting for them to correct. Oddly, the incorrect gradings have never been in my favor.
                                  Yeah, funny how that works. I only recall once that it was graded incorrectly in my favor but they fixed it by the next day.

                                  Definitely frustrating when you have to take time out to deal with these gradings. Doubly so when they respond saying they didn't make a mistake when they obviously did and you have to a have a number of back and forths to get it corrected.
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                                  • HedgeHog
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-11-07
                                    • 10128

                                    #18
                                    I was very disappointed to see BAS drop Nascar and now to a lesser extent horse matchups. Seems like they are running scared. Is 5D doing this too? Oh Canada, can someone that still has access to 5D confirm if they are doing Nascar and horse matchups?
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                                    • Colonist
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 05-24-20
                                      • 203

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by newfiepicks
                                      Yeah, funny how that works. I only recall once that it was graded incorrectly in my favor but they fixed it by the next day.

                                      Definitely frustrating when you have to take time out to deal with these gradings. Doubly so when they respond saying they didn't make a mistake when they obviously did and you have to a have a number of back and forths to get it corrected.
                                      Yup, it can be very frustrating, especially as most of the people you deal with there know nothing about horse racing. Additionally, I play at LowVig and you are lucky to receive 1 response every 24 hours so it can drag out for a long time.
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                                      • garyking
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-18-07
                                        • 684

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                        I was very disappointed to see BAS drop Nascar and now to a lesser extent horse matchups. Seems like they are running scared. Is 5D doing this too? Oh Canada, can someone that still has access to 5D confirm if they are doing Nascar and horse matchups?
                                        I'm in Canada, I don't follow nascar but 5Dimes currently has lines for nascar cup, also two horse matchups for Australian racing tonight.
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