5Dimes’ SBR Rating Suspended

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Ratings here mean nothing. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Ratings are based on affiliate income. Let's be honest 100% of the time to help gamblers.

Another question. On the odds service, exactly where does the consensus come from. How is it calculated?

Thanks

Hey if you are such an insider here to state you know the ratings are just cynically based on revenue alone, surely you know the standard answer given to people a thousand times regarding the second question. (We use a number of partner books to compile it but don't disclose any more info than that)


Honestly General, your recent posts claiming regulated betting is the savior and much fairer than offshore seems to be soly based on your own hip pocket.

Regulation of gambling is like a parasite sucking every single cent of available profit from the industry in return for enacting license guidelines to legitimize whatever decisions the license holders make.

It's 100% about controlling your options and trying to maintain a guaranteed revenue stream to the govt and stake holders.

If you are not a rec gambler who is happy to see their losses as the cost of their hobby, then USA licensing is an insidious move really.


Mark these words in maybe 4 or 5 years from now when it has become clear to you what you are really cheering for.

[mrpapageorgio]

I thought t was obvious that I was talking about how to solve the problem within the confines of their payout process. They're not going to completely transform the process in their final weeks.

Part of his argument though is the repetitiousness of the payout process. If they do phone verification, why the need for email and dba? (and feel free to swap those methods around). My first payment request got rejected because they claimed I never sent them the reply to the confirmation email. Then 10 days after sending the 2nd request, they magically send the bitcoin without the need for a confirmation. Why was it so important then, but not now? They could've made this smoother by just doing one verification method (phone, email, or dba) and just get the payouts done. Instead, the backlog is likely their own making for still wanting to go through this slow and antiquated process until it looks like they change their mind for no rhyme or reason.

[RedApples]

The fuukkin sh!t you SBR kikes actually do?

Seriously...after their exit? AFTER!?!

They have been screwin' us for over a month and you wanna wait til after!?!

I would say your the biggest joke of a rating system on the web...oh wait you fuckin' are!!! Go figure...Could 5Dimes be anymore up yer ass? Or are they up yer families ass as you kikes prefer it?

Can we just start insta banning antisemitic posts and language? This is disgusting behaviour to support. It's so f'd up. Not sure how many Jewish people are mods at SBR but this shouldn't be turned a blind eye to. Jewish people have had to endure enough bullshit. Is the N word allowed? I keep asking where the line is on this.

[mrpapageorgio]

Hey if you are such an insider here to state you know the ratings are just cynically based on revenue alone, surely you know the standard answer given to people a thousand times regarding the second question. (We use a number of partner books to compile it but don't disclose any more info than that)


Honestly General, your recent posts claiming regulated betting is the savior and much fairer than offshore seems to be soly based on your own hip pocket.

Regulation of gambling is like a parasite sucking every single cent of available profit from the industry in return for enacting license guidelines to legitimize whatever decisions the license holders make.

It's 100% about controlling your options and trying to maintain a guaranteed revenue stream to the govt and stake holders.

If you are not a rec gambler who is happy to see their losses as the cost of their hobby, then USA licensing is an insidious move really.


Mark these words in maybe 4 or 5 years from now when it has become clear to you what you are really cheering for.

While being a newer member of the SBR world and sports betting. From having been around here, it seems pre-SCOTUS decision, a common complaint is the offshore books got complacent and customer service and offers went downhill the past few years.

At least now with legal betting, while it will have inherent disadvantages that offshore can distinguish itself (overall reduced juice, non-reporting of gambling winnings, anonymity, etc), it now gives the offshore books competition that now they will have to innovate and improve on their weaknesses in order to survive. It seemed for many, their general attitude was "too bad, we're the only shop in town". That's now changing and you're going to have to do more if you want to keep the rec bettors, because it seems unless you're Pinnacle or Bookmaker, nobody wants to cater strictly to sharps.

[RedApples]

While being a newer member of the SBR world and sports betting. From having been around here, it seems pre-SCOTUS decision, a common complaint is the offshore books got complacent and customer service and offers went downhill the past few years.

At least now with legal betting, while it will have inherent disadvantages that offshore can distinguish itself (overall reduced juice, non-reporting of gambling winnings, anonymity, etc), it now gives the offshore books competition that now they will have to innovate and improve on their weaknesses in order to survive. It seemed for many, their general attitude was "too bad, we're the only shop in town". That's now changing and you're going to have to do more if you want to keep the rec bettors, because it seems unless you're Pinnacle or Bookmaker, nobody wants to cater strictly to sharps.

I'm an online betting veteran. First started with Intertops in 1999 or 2000. Started playing on Paradise Poker, Pokerstars within months of each of them launching. Pinnacle was always my go to book for large amounts in the mid 00's. WSEX was my go-to before that. Now, literally left to having only BetOnline to bet with. As much as I love BetOnline, the entire off-shore landscape has crumbled. 5Dimes hasn't been a good book in what seems to be forever, and turned into a scam book recently. Bookmaker has horrid lines and too rigid on solving issues. Not sure what the future holds for BetOnline, but operating a SportsBook and online poker client has to have them right in the eye of the feds. BTW, SBR was really good back then too and 5Dimes I can promise you would've gotten blacklisted for this recent stunt instantly.

Now, all of that being said, I am very excited for legalized Sports betting. It's about as good as it gets after not being able to have Pokerstars, FTP and Pinnacle pre-black Friday. Nothing will beat those days. But those days ain't coming back. I am very very very very thankful that legalized sports betting has come to the United States and all of these offshore books can go penetrate themselves. I will still play on BOL in the meantime, but only because it's convenient, and another out.

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While being a newer member of the SBR world and sports betting. From having been around here, it seems pre-SCOTUS decision, a common complaint is the offshore books got complacent and customer service and offers went downhill the past few years.

At least now with legal betting, while it will have inherent disadvantages that offshore can distinguish itself (overall reduced juice, non-reporting of gambling winnings, anonymity, etc), it now gives the offshore books competition that now they will have to innovate and improve on their weaknesses in order to survive. It seemed for many, their general attitude was "too bad, we're the only shop in town". That's now changing and you're going to have to do more if you want to keep the rec bettors, because it seems unless you're Pinnacle or Bookmaker, nobody wants to cater strictly to sharps.

Competition is great.

And if we are honest most of us are not consistent winners and lots of things about retail bookmakers are appealing to the average player.


But, licensed books don't stand for competition. They demand their license fees are spent by the state to stop you choosing where you want to bet. And once they get that level of control, we are squeezed as bettors.

It's not that one of them alone is better than the other, but they are both better WITH the other as competition.

[PD77]

Competition is great.

And if we are honest most of us are not consistent winners and lots of things about retail bookmakers are appealing to the average player.


But, licensed books don't stand for competition. They demand their license fees are spent by the state to stop you choosing where you want to bet. And once they get that level of control, we are squeezed as bettors.

It's not that one of them alone is better than the other, but they are both better WITH the other as competition.

so you’re saying 5Dimes screwed up and signed their own death certificate? That’s kinda what I thought too. I would like to know, if BetAnySports.eu is not affiliated with 5Dimes (we all know it is but are told it is not), how does SBR justify the A- rating?

[mrpapageorgio]

Competition is great.

And if we are honest most of us are not consistent winners and lots of things about retail bookmakers are appealing to the average player.


But, licensed books don't stand for competition. They demand their license fees are spent by the state to stop you choosing where you want to bet. And once they get that level of control, we are squeezed as bettors.

It's not that one of them alone is better than the other, but they are both better WITH the other as competition.

I don't think they stand for competition where they have an inherent disadvantage offshore has which is they're not subject to paying US Federal/State taxes. If Bookmaker/BetOnline had to pay the taxes the onshore books are paying, they wouldn't be able to offer consistent lower vig.

And can you point out where Costa Rica or Panama has folded to the US in terms of shutting down these offshore books? I don't see CR shutting them down as long as they keep paying their license fee.

[Stallion]

5 Dimes seems like a solid book, They are paying out as fast as they can. It sucks they cancelled futures, and are leaving the US market. Good luck to everyone eventually getting there money. I think SBR should lower there rating to maybe a B or C.

[The General]

Everything I say is fantasy. I have no idea what's going on. I just enjoy talking. Most of us are full of chit and I'm among the few who accepts it, admits it and knows it.

Good luck

[The General]

(We use a number of partner books to compile it but don't disclose any more info than that)

Why does sbr hide anything. You are present to help gamblers right? A watchdog of sorts. SBR is the most hiding gambling website in history. Fukin everything is a secret. That's why I hated working here. Sbr wanted me to take a side before the facts were in and I was very uncomfortable with that. Don't play bullchit with me. Been there, ran that, did that, seen that. You have a job to do optional and I get it. I've done the same. You are 100% wrong. I'm sorry, but better is yet to come And it don't involve rouge offshore bullchit and you know this to. It just doesn't suit you well well because your paycheck depends on pushing bullchit offshore operations. Enjoy.... Don't try to debate me. You Will Lose...

[The General]

Offshore gambling companies have no accountability.

[mafioso]

I'm not directly involved with negotiations but I believe SBR has taken a stance, both privately with 5D management as well as in public here.

And if you mean that I will personally wait until I see for sure what happens before bashing them, guilty as charged. My job is about doing the best thing to see all parties treated fairly. If that means being diplomatic as the process happens, then so be it.


If it makes you feel any better, I think 5Dimes are doing a terrible job and trashing any positive memories of Tony on the way out.

For all the criticism of him personally over the years, no way in hell he would have walked out ripping people off as he left.

There were positive memories of Tony?
He was a shitbag who got his

[Spektre]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[ClippersSux]

Here's the probable reason 5dimes is leaving the US market. Read the full article at https://www.inquirer.com/business/sp...-20201027.html

[Pick'nParlays]

Yea that wasn't very cool.