Bookmaker limited me –– question and new book suggestions

[nesser]

Hi guys,

I joined Bookmaker a few months ago after hearing great things about them. I love them a lot, to be honest –– they don't stiff you, the lines are great, they allow payouts 5x per week (which are beyond fast), their customer service is superior, all in all they're fantastic.

I loved that they pride themselves on not limiting players, whether recreational or professional, however today I saw that I have been drastically limited (I confirmed with other guys I know who use the book and my limits are way below theirs). Instead of $1.5 or $2k max wagers, I'm being now allowed $500. On some things, only $125.

Has anyone had a similar experience with them? What books do you guys use that don't make limiting a heavy habit?

Thanks

[HomeRun35]

Can you give some examples of markets you were limited on? Bookmaker might've done a one size fits all limit on non-rec accounts vs something targeted at you specifically. What are your limits on MLB/NFL/NBA sims?

[DontTailMe]

Hi guys,

I joined Bookmaker a few months ago after hearing great things about them. I love them a lot, to be honest –– they don't stiff you, the lines are great, they allow payouts 5x per week (which are beyond fast), their customer service is superior, all in all they're fantastic.

I loved that they pride themselves on not limiting players, whether recreational or professional, however today I saw that I have been drastically limited (I confirmed with other guys I know who use the book and my limits are way below theirs). Instead of $1.5 or $2k max wagers, I'm being now allowed $500. On some things, only $125.

I think that they also own Americas Cardroom, which have similar lines. If I create an account there and start playing with them, is that against common ethics/ToS at all? It's a totally different company from what I understand, just same ownership. I know a lot of books operate like that.

Has anyone had a similar experience with them? What books do you guys use that don't make limiting a heavy habit? I'm in the U.S.

Thanks

There shouldn't be anything preventing you from creating that account. But if you join any book related to Bookmaker after being limited, they're most likely going to match your accounts up upon intake and set similar limits for you. You can try it and see if you slip through the cracks, but I've seen it happen to someone I know.

[nesser]

Can you give some examples of markets you were limited on? Bookmaker might've done a one size fits all limit on non-rec accounts vs something targeted at you specifically. What are your limits on MLB/NFL/NBA sims?

I checked with guys on the sims chat and they're all at 1k or over still today. I've been limited to $500 on sim spreads and only $250 on sim ml. I used to be at $250 for table tennis, now that's brought down to $100.

The only sport that I haven't been limited on so far is baseball (sims and also real ball), for whatever reason.

[nesser]

There shouldn't be anything preventing you from creating that account. But if you join any book related to Bookmaker after being limited, they're most likely going to match your accounts up upon intake and set similar limits for you. You can try it and see if you slip through the cracks, but I've seen it happen to someone I know.

I joined today and my sim spreads were at 1k so perhaps I slipped through. Thanks for the input!

[HomeRun35]

I checked with guys on the sims chat and they're all at 1k or over still today. I've been limited to $500 on sim spreads and only $250 on sim ml. I used to be at $250 for table tennis, now that's brought down to $100.

Don't know about table tennis, last I checked it wasn't even available for me, but this is the same for me for NBA sims.

The only sport that I haven't been limited on so far is baseball (sims and also real ball), for whatever reason.

Also the same for me. It seems like this is a blanket limit for all accounts they've deemed non-recreational

Edit: I see you complaining about the score in the Rockies game in the chat. They should probably double your MLB limits if you were laying -170 on Colorado

[DroopyDog]

Fairly certain bookmaker doesn’t own ACR

[ChocMilk23]

This guy is bitching about sim games

[DontTailMe]

Fairly certain bookmaker doesn’t own ACR

I agree. It's Bookmaker/Galaxy/JustBet, with ACR having some sort of platform lease arrangement with them.

[nesser]

Don't know about table tennis, last I checked it wasn't even available for me, but this is the same for me for NBA sims.

Also the same for me. It seems like this is a blanket limit for all accounts they've deemed non-recreational

Edit: I see you complaining about the score in the Rockies game in the chat. They should probably double your MLB limits if you were laying -170 on Colorado

Haha, right? That's what I'm saying. I never bet on sims before in my life, but have picked them up during the PM hours and been betting on KBO/NPB in the early AM. Itching for NBA to come back and real MLB so I can say goodbye to these sims - haha. Luckily, they won. Hope you had them as well

And interesting re: non-rec limits. Could definitely be. Thanks for the info!

[nesser]

Fairly certain bookmaker doesn’t own ACR

Ah, really? I saw some people say that they did on a few other spots. Thank you for that info

[nesser]

This guy is bitching about sim games

No one's bitching I never bet on sims before in my life but the combination of the lack of live sports and them limiting me so broadly on every other category has brought me to them. Cash is cash my man, I don't discriminate. Desperate times call for...

[nesser]

I agree. It's Bookmaker/Galaxy/JustBet, with ACR having some sort of platform lease arrangement with them.

Thanks for this info. I read otherwise elsewhere but definitely trust you guys here more. Appreciate it!

[HomeRun35]

Haha, right? That's what I'm saying. I never bet on sims before in my life, but have picked them up during the PM hours and been betting on KBO/NPB in the early AM. Itching for NBA to come back and real MLB so I can say goodbye to these sims - haha. Luckily, they won. Hope you had them as well

A big fat L on the fish for me

And interesting re: non-rec limits. Could definitely be. Thanks for the info!

This has to be what it is our because our limit experience is identical. $500 on NBA, still full on baseball sims and Asian baseball. BM has two categories for accounts, recreational or non-recreational. I'm not sure how loose they are with the recreational vs non-recreational designation but from what I gather on here it's not rare to be declared non-rec. It doesn't come with any limit reduction on major sports. It will just give you smaller or non-existent limits in their most exotic markets that they aren't confident enough in(select e-sports, table tennis, NBA sims, but apparently not NFL or MLB sims) and it takes away your ability to parlay. Hopefully parlay comes back for major sports? I'm somewhat new to BM so I don't know the answer there.

[garyking]

Plenty of other sportsbooks out there as well. I've probably had accounts at over 40 different sportsbooks over the years. I don't see the advantage of having just one. Any of the A or A plus are generally reputable, the all have some advantages and disadvantages. Now I'm using mostly Justbet, Betonline, 5Dimes, Heritage, and Jazzsports. Gave up on BetDsi after they screwed me over on a bonus.
Amazing that in 15 years, I've never had one not pay me.

[nesser]

A big fat L on the fish for me



This has to be what it is our because our limit experience is identical. $500 on NBA, still full on baseball sims and Asian baseball. BM has two categories for accounts, recreational or non-recreational. I'm not sure how loose they are with the recreational vs non-recreational designation but from what I gather on here it's not rare to be declared non-rec. It doesn't come with any limit reduction on major sports. It will just give you smaller or non-existent limits in their most exotic markets that they aren't confident enough in(select e-sports, table tennis, NBA sims, but apparently not NFL or MLB sims) and it takes away your ability to parlay. Hopefully parlay comes back for major sports? I'm somewhat new to BM so I don't know the answer there.

Aw no man – haha. I felt really badly for anyone who had Marlins in that game, what a painful way to lose just when it looked like it was over. You'll make it up if you haven't already

Thanks for all of this info, really helpful. Everything you're saying makes sense. It's alright as long as it doesn't hit major sports. And to be honest there are huge upsets in the NBA sims where they've had to pay out big cash. I think the Knicks won the other day against the Raptors at almost +1,000 and I saw a lot of guys took them. Ouch. Too wild and people were catching on, so it makes sense. MLB tends to be a little more predictable. For now at least - haha. I think a lot of books limit table tennis now because they don't trust the integrity much.

Thanks again man, and good luck!

[nesser]

Plenty of other sportsbooks out there as well. I've probably had accounts at over 40 different sportsbooks over the years. I don't see the advantage of having just one. Any of the A or A plus are generally reputable, the all have some advantages and disadvantages. Now I'm using mostly Justbet, Betonline, 5Dimes, Heritage, and Jazzsports. Gave up on BetDsi after they screwed me over on a bonus.
Amazing that in 15 years, I've never had one not pay me.

That really is amazing, good on you! Thanks for these, I'm going to check them all out. Good luck to you

[DISTROYA]

I dont know why bookmaker says they dont limit. Not only have I been limited in just about every category sport and sub/alt lines, they dont even give me points for my previous heavy-ass play in the casino. Whats their excuse, Im a computer chip reading online casino wizard?

[HomeRun35]

Maybe someone in here has the answer to this one:

When I bet and I want to re-bet, should I do it immediately off their auto mover price? Or should I wait a few more seconds to give the trader a chance to move it on top of that? I ask because they do see my action as sharp and they will always move extra on top of whatever the auto move did. I'm worrried that if I keep re-betting them right after their auto move but before their trader gets a chance to move it that they'll take away my re-bet ability.

I've seen someone say on here that they had heard of BM taking away someone's ability to re-bet(due to sharpness) and I'm afraid of that.

[DISTROYA]

they couldnt even handle $125.00 on table tennis bets from me; took all lines down when I log-in. Pretty sad.

[pimike]

Lot of complaints there all of a sudden.

[DontTailMe]

I dont know why bookmaker says they dont limit. Not only have I been limited in just about every category sport and sub/alt lines, they dont even give me points for my previous heavy-ass play in the casino. Whats their excuse, Im a computer chip reading online casino wizard?

Where do they say this? I know it's been a common understanding (which appears to have changed over time), but I've never seen Bookmaker actually make this claim before.

[DISTROYA]

I dont really know Donttail; I just keep hearing it over and over on this forum. Use them here and there but had lots more flexibility, limits and freedom about 3 years ago; been downhill ever since. Still, what is there to choose from the paranoia and limiting virus has spread to books everywhere.

[HomeRun35]

Lot of complaints there all of a sudden.

Bookmaker is just about as good as it gets. As much as I'd love for them to throw up four figure limits on every market, I think it's reasonable for them to have some targeted limits in really esoteric markets that it's hard for them to keep up with, which is the specific complaint in this thread. They still let you re-bet these as much as you want.

[pimike]

Bookmaker is just about as good as it gets. As much as I'd love for them to throw up four figure limits on every market, I think it's reasonable for them to have some targeted limits in really esoteric markets that it's hard for them to keep up with, which is the specific complaint in this thread. They still let you re-bet these as much as you want.

Thanks
Talking with FunnyB I’ll be funding them for in play.

Last I remember the have ugly MLB lines

[nesser]

Where do they say this? I know it's been a common understanding (which appears to have changed over time), but I've never seen Bookmaker actually make this claim before.

They have it all over their marketing that they "pride themselves on not limiting or kicking out winning players", whether rec or pro. It's their claim to fame, so to speak haha.

Fair to say however that I'm not sure how much this limiting lately has to do with the pandemic. They already were open about limiting cashouts to $7,500 per week due to the virus. They said this will end when NBA/MLB resumes in a few weeks. I understand that and don't blame them for it, of course. It's reasonable.

[nesser]

Bookmaker is just about as good as it gets. As much as I'd love for them to throw up four figure limits on every market, I think it's reasonable for them to have some targeted limits in really esoteric markets that it's hard for them to keep up with, which is the specific complaint in this thread. They still let you re-bet these as much as you want.

This is fair. Once MLB and NBA get back going, a lot of these more obscure markets will more than likely fade back into obscurity anyway.

[DontTailMe]

They have it all over their marketing that they "pride themselves on not limiting or kicking out winning players", whether rec or pro. It's their claim to fame, so to speak haha.

Fair to say however that I'm not sure how much this limiting lately has to do with the pandemic. They already were open about limiting cashouts to $7,500 per week due to the virus. They said this will end when NBA/MLB resumes in a few weeks. I understand that and don't blame them for it, of course. It's reasonable.

Do you have a link or screen shot to just one example? The reason I ask is because I've certainly seen their marketing material saying that they don't ban wining players, but I've never seen anything from them saying that they don't limit.

[Darshan V Rao]

No one's bitching I never bet on sims before in my life but the combination of the lack of live sports and them limiting me so broadly on every other category has brought me to them. Cash is cash my man, I don't discriminate. Desperate times call for...

I also got limited in my bookmaker but for basketball market alone.
When I try placing a bet limit is too little max is 25usd.
I used to place on e basketball over past 3months . I guess that's the reason
But its limited even for Chinese basketball or nbl NZ. I just day before placed 25000 INR bet which I lost in NZ basketball Vs now getting limit of only 2000 INR.

[RonPaul2008]

Are you limited on NBA?

I also got limited in my bookmaker but for basketball market alone.
When I try placing a bet limit is too little max is 25usd.
I used to place on e basketball over past 3months . I guess that's the reason
But its limited even for Chinese basketball or nbl NZ. I just day before placed 25000 INR bet which I lost in NZ basketball Vs now getting limit of only 2000 INR.

[Darshan V Rao]

Sorry I didn't read Ur post correctly I'm limited on bet365
Yes on all basketball nba CBA ebaskwrball

[RonPaul2008]

I thought you meant Bookmaker.eu

Bet365 is a mickey mouse book.

Sorry I didn't read Ur post correctly I'm limited on bet365
Yes on all basketball nba CBA ebaskwrball

[DISTROYA]

Their soccer lines have been just awful. Huge juice gaps and Im talking about the big INTL leagues.