Betfair suspend an account with approx. 65000 EUR on it.

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  • ZAMAZA
    SBR Hustler
    • 05-27-19
    • 69

    #71
    I understand.
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    • Kovac_
      SBR Rookie
      • 07-10-08
      • 39

      #72
      I guess it’s time to SbrForum to step up, if they can, of course. I need these funds, At this point, I don’t even care about the account but I really need these funds asap. So if Sbr could tell me what to do, I would be glad. What is clear is I can’t stay 60 days per say waiting for Betfair without nothing to stop it this wasting of time.

      Thanks in Advance.
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      • frenchbettor
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-02-19
        • 115

        #73
        Just for my understanding when you put 65K in your betfair account your intent was to play with the whole sum?

        I just don't understand why you put so much money in it, books are not bank and should not be used as such
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        • Kovac_
          SBR Rookie
          • 07-10-08
          • 39

          #74
          Originally posted by frenchbettor;[URL="[URL
          tel:29293759[/URL]"]29293759[/URL]]Just for my understanding when you put 65K in your betfair account your intent was to play with the whole sum?

          I just don't understand why you put so much money in it, books are not bank and should not be used as such
          In my last run, before withdrawals and losses, I had approx 22000 Eur. In 6 days they become 66000 more or so in football trade. Never intended to use as a bank but I had mid 6 figures on Sbobet one time before they stop Skrill. Nontheless they have my sources of wealth since day 1. Sbr has it, Skrill verified time ago. It’s like they are waiting the Holy Spirit and guide them to what next. My KYC was verified with them? Yes. Sources of wealth for Skrill are ok, don’t think Sbr could find something wrong there. However they don’t want me as a customer? Ok, close it, goodbye but pay and pay soon that there can’t be any reason they could possible have to hold the money indefinitely. And if there is, show it because it is more or less the same papers they had from day 1.
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          • ZAMAZA
            SBR Hustler
            • 05-27-19
            • 69

            #75
            You're a winner.
            Betfair hates the winners...
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            • henningts
              SBR Rookie
              • 10-22-10
              • 46

              #76
              Originally posted by ZAMAZA
              You're a winner.
              Betfair hates the winners...
              You obviously have no clue how betfair works.
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              • ZAMAZA
                SBR Hustler
                • 05-27-19
                • 69

                #77
                Originally posted by henningts
                You obviously have no clue how betfair works.
                You explain to Kovac_ how Betfair works...
                Kovac_ has been waiting for several days.
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                • henningts
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 10-22-10
                  • 46

                  #78
                  Originally posted by ZAMAZA
                  You explain to Kovac_ how Betfair works...
                  Kovac_ has been waiting for several days.
                  What he is dealing with has nothing to do with the nonsense you wrote. "betfair does not like winners"
                  When you are winning you dont win betfairs money but obviously you dont get it. Betfair gets % of every bet made, they dont care if you win or lose, they always win. Its a betting exchange that Kovac is using, not a sportsbook.
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                  • ZAMAZA
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 05-27-19
                    • 69

                    #79
                    And why doesn't Betfair let go of the money?
                    You think in perspective...
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                    • henningts
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 10-22-10
                      • 46

                      #80
                      Originally posted by ZAMAZA
                      And why doesn't Betfair let go of the money?
                      You think in perspective...
                      That we all dont know and I repeat myself it does not matter. All I replied to was ur comment which didnt make any sense.

                      Better dont reply again because all your replies dont make any sense, by now you should understand that.
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                      • ZAMAZA
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 05-27-19
                        • 69

                        #81
                        What you must understand is that bookmakers aren't NGOs.
                        Bookmakers (including Betfair) play dirty...
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                        • King_Suckerman
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 04-12-09
                          • 945

                          #82
                          Were all the winnings on the Exchange rather than Sportsbook?
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                          • lonnie55
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-08-16
                            • 2689

                            #83
                            Originally posted by henningts
                            What he is dealing with has nothing to do with the nonsense you wrote. "betfair does not like winners"
                            When you are winning you dont win betfairs money but obviously you dont get it. Betfair gets % of every bet made, they dont care if you win or lose, they always win. Its a betting exchange that Kovac is using, not a sportsbook.
                            I always thought the same way. But someone opened an interesting thread the other day: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...-business.html

                            If Alfa1234 is right and 99.9% of the liquidity on betting exchanges comes from the provider of the exchange itself, then it's more than obvious why exchanges don't like winners.
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61537

                              #84
                              Originally posted by lonnie55

                              I always thought the same way. But someone opened an interesting thread the other day: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...-business.html

                              If Alfa1234 is right and 99.9% of the liquidity on betting exchanges comes from the provider of the exchange itself, then it's more than obvious why exchanges don't like winners.
                              Even if it is not the exchanges own money, there is an incentive to protect whoever provides liquidity, as that is what drives usage.
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                              • piterp
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 06-02-13
                                • 241

                                #85
                                If betfair is not happy about winner:

                                sportsbook- limit stake to minimum
                                exchange-apply to account"premium charge"
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                                • henningts
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 10-22-10
                                  • 46

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by piterp
                                  If betfair is not happy about winner:

                                  sportsbook- limit stake to minimum


                                  exchange-apply to account"premium charge"
                                  Exactly.
                                  Maybe they suspect multople accounts and money laundering, in my opinion this can be the only reason.
                                  Normally they are happy with high volume players.
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                                  • piterp
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 06-02-13
                                    • 241

                                    #87
                                    Some factor of his activity trigger security alarm
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                                    • Kovac_
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 07-10-08
                                      • 39

                                      #88
                                      I lodged a complaint with SBR twice but they seem they don't want or they can't assist me. Which is fine. They, have however, all the legal papers to verify my sources of wealth. I'd like to have a statement on that. Since this is the matter.
                                      Betfair doesn't have anymore a phone number, at least not for VIP customer as far as I know, so it's impossible to talk to them. The kind operator of Betfair.it was way more useful in the matter, at least she tried.
                                      Following legal advice, I contacted both MGA and IBAS on the matter even if Betfair also REFUSES to issue a deadlock letter on the matter.
                                      There is nothing else I can add and I will add. SBR, as Skrill, where I remember I'm a VIP diamond member, have my papers and can verify them in any moment.
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61537

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Kovac_
                                        I guess it’s time to SbrForum to step up
                                        Originally posted by Kovac_
                                        I lodged a complaint with SBR twice but they seem they don't want or they can't assist me.
                                        ...


                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        It's not a matter of wanting to do something or not Kovac.

                                        We would love to help. But they simply will not discuss your situation with us whilst a security issue is in play.

                                        I sympathize with your worry over this, but you just have to wait.
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61537

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Kovac_
                                          Following legal advice, I contacted both MGA and IBAS on the matter even if Betfair also REFUSES to issue a deadlock letter on the matter.
                                          Did they actually say that they refuse to issue a deadlock email?

                                          And what is your legal advisers plan here? To try and get the UKGC or MGA issued regulations overturned? I'd suggest getting a new legal adviser if so. You need a decision or deadlock email to go forward. Unless you plan to lodge a court claim right now. And again, I'd find a new legal adviser if that is their suggestion.

                                          Does your legal counsel know you are also asking SBR to act on your behalf?
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 61537

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Kovac_
                                            Betfair doesn't have anymore a phone number, at least not for VIP customer as far as I know, so it's impossible to talk to them.





                                            But just to be clear. As suggested a few times. Leave them alone and wait.
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                                            • SBE
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-16-16
                                              • 271

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Kovac_
                                              I lodged a complaint with SBR twice but they seem they don't want or they can't assist me. Which is fine. They, have however, all the legal papers to verify my sources of wealth. I'd like to have a statement on that. Since this is the matter.
                                              Betfair doesn't have anymore a phone number, at least not for VIP customer as far as I know, so it's impossible to talk to them. The kind operator of Betfair.it was way more useful in the matter, at least she tried.
                                              Following legal advice, I contacted both MGA and IBAS on the matter even if Betfair also REFUSES to issue a deadlock letter on the matter.
                                              There is nothing else I can add and I will add. SBR, as Skrill, where I remember I'm a VIP diamond member, have my papers and can verify them in any moment.

                                              I am for some 17 years already a VIP Betfair customer and having the VIP telephone number (but will not display it here). Though they closed normal phone customer support, the VIP support is still available there. Also you can email them to vip@betfair.com.
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                                              • SBE
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-16-16
                                                • 271

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Optional



                                                But just to be clear. As suggested a few times. Leave them alone and wait.

                                                That numbers (from Betfair'website) are for TELEPHONE betting. It is not customer service support. I called them few times (before I got the VIP number - it is different, not one of that above) though they promised they never really helped.
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                                                • lonnie55
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-08-16
                                                  • 2689

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by SBE
                                                  That numbers (from Betfair'website) are for TELEPHONE betting. It is not customer service support. I called them few times (before I got the VIP number - it is different, not one of that above) though they promised they never really helped.
                                                  I hope you'll send Kovac the number via PM
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                                                  • SBE
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-16-16
                                                    • 271

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by lonnie55
                                                    I hope you'll send Kovac the number via PM

                                                    I would like to, but have no idea how to do it. Never done it before...

                                                    I cannot see any button (or a tool) to do it (maybe I am blind, or do not know...)
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                                                    • horja1
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-13-11
                                                      • 5646

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by SBE
                                                      I would like to, but have no idea how to do it. Never done it before...

                                                      I cannot see any button (or a tool) to do it (maybe I am blind, or do not know...)
                                                      SBR menu is on the right side of the page, under your username --> Inbox
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                                                      • chidondollars
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-12-11
                                                        • 1296

                                                        #97
                                                        A customer request to be verified triggered this protocols
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                                                        • lonnie55
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-08-16
                                                          • 2689

                                                          #98
                                                          @SBE Is the PM function deactivated for you? I can't PM you
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                                                          • SBE
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-16-16
                                                            • 271

                                                            #99
                                                            Thank you all for your reactions.

                                                            It seems there was some issue as for my PM tool, but now it is solved out.

                                                            It is working.

                                                            I just sent the VIP BF phone number to Kovac.
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                                                            • moojoo
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 09-02-16
                                                              • 938

                                                              #100
                                                              Any news here?
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                                                              • AndreyPL
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 08-23-19
                                                                • 23

                                                                #101
                                                                I have exactly the same situation with betfair. The account was closed on August 3, 2019. I'm still waiting.
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                                                                • henningts
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 10-22-10
                                                                  • 46

                                                                  #102
                                                                  I would also appreciate an update. Thinking about using bf again but need to be sure they dont convert to the dark side now.
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                                                                  • Vyasports
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-27-19
                                                                    • 4946

                                                                    #103
                                                                    im glad i dnt have a BF account .... reading all these complaints pheewww

                                                                    Just stay away from BF

                                                                    who needs this kind of headache
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                                                                    • semibluff
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-12-16
                                                                      • 1515

                                                                      #104
                                                                      It's been 2 weeks. An update from the op would be nice.
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