Betonline no more new jersey

**Waterstpub87** · 08-26-19, 03:09 PM

Lowvig as well. It's over for us.

**moojoo** · 08-26-19, 03:13 PM

Unregulated book,run away from regulated state.

**Crusherrr** · 08-26-19, 03:14 PM

Terrible news. Have to assume other states will force them out too.

**HedgeHog** · 08-26-19, 03:20 PM

Incredible if true. Can you post the email?

**Shifty** · 08-26-19, 03:21 PM

No email but I had a pending football bet for Saturday voided. Damn.

**Waterstpub87** · 08-26-19, 03:25 PM

It has come to our attention that your BetOnline account is registered in New Jersey. Please note that, per our Terms and Conditions, BetOnline does not accept customers from New Jersey and your account has been closed. All pending wagers have been cancelled and refunded. You have until September 30th, 2019 to withdrawal your remaining funds.*

They also voided my NCAAF football season win totals.

**Shifty** · 08-26-19, 03:39 PM

https://www.betonline.ag/rules see rule 26. The country of New Jersey.

**Optional** · 08-26-19, 03:42 PM

Welcome to the world of regulation.

**SBR Forum** · 08-26-19, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

It has come to our attention that your BetOnline account is registered in New Jersey. Please note that, per our Terms and Conditions, BetOnline does not accept customers from New Jersey and your account has been closed. All pending wagers have been cancelled and refunded. You have until September 30th, 2019 to withdrawal your remaining funds.*
They also voided my NCAAF football season win totals.

Thank you for sharing the email. We will discuss the handling of account closures with management. Pending bets and futures should be honored in our opinion when there are market exits. Once the bets are voided, though, it's tough to turn back as then some players will choose to want the $ instead, especially if the market moved against them.

**Waterstpub87** · 08-26-19, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by SBR Forum

Thank you for sharing the email. We will discuss the handling of account closures with management. Pending bets and futures should be honored in our opinion.

Rather just make a clean break at this point. Will just re bet the futures some where else.

**PAULYPOKER** · 08-26-19, 04:11 PM

Get the "coke" brothers to buy in...

Regulations would disappear overnight..........

**HedgeHog** · 08-26-19, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Shifty

https://www.betonline.ag/rules see rule 26. The country of New Jersey.

How long before the "country" of Illinois is excluded?

**bubba** · 08-26-19, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Welcome to the world of regulation.

Id say for 99% of players the "world of regulation" is a positive thing. Having said that, this stinks for those in new jersey who wanted to use both on and offshore.

I wonder what happened, like a warning from a government agency?

**jgarz2** · 08-26-19, 06:03 PM

Lowvig was an amazing out. Very unfortunate

**kashkenny120** · 08-26-19, 06:27 PM

Hope NY is not soon to follow

**Optional** · 08-26-19, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by bubba

Id say for 99% of players the "world of regulation" is a positive thing. Having said that, this stinks for those in new jersey who wanted to use both on and offshore.

I wonder what happened, like a warning from a government agency?

It is early days. Regulation will feel fine for rec bettors but it will feel more and more like a restriction for serious bettors as time goes on.

It probably takes no more than a letter from the new regulatory agency to get these big locally legal offshore operations to comply.

There was not much in the way of scary laws that were easy to prove and prosecute before. Now in NJ there is probably massive penalties for easy to prove breaches like marketing in the state without a license.

**moojoo** · 08-26-19, 06:43 PM

What is problem for BOL to go and open legal site and outfit in state of New Jersey. If they do so,they would not be able to pull stunts like all other Curacao and Costa Rica books. What is problem to be legit and accept high rollers?

**bubba** · 08-26-19, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by moojoo

What is problem for BOL to go and open legal site and outfit in state of New Jersey. If they do so,they would not be able to pull stunts like all other Curacao and Costa Rica books. What is problem to be legit and accept high rollers?

Betonline has as high or higher limits for me than any new jersey book I have used (especially when you consider the rebet function) They have many faults, but running away from high rollers feels illegitimate to me.

**Waterstpub87** · 08-26-19, 07:31 PM

NJ books are great if you want to lay -110 on mlb lines, and get a max 500 freeplay bonus. Rather than the 1000 I would get regularly from betonline. It sucks, legal gambling sucks. Anyone with half a brain knew that it was going to work out poorly.

"But you are guaranteed to get paid from a legal bookie"

Really? So when they decide to cut you off for chasing steam, or whatever reason they give, you will then have to go and submit a complaint with a state agency. Who will then take months to look at your claim, and maybe get your money back.

**bubba** · 08-26-19, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

NJ books are great if you want to lay -110 on mlb lines, and get a max 500 freeplay bonus. Rather than the 1000 I would get regularly from betonline. It sucks, legal gambling sucks. Anyone with half a brain knew that it was going to work out poorly.

"But you are guaranteed to get paid from a legal bookie"

Really? So when they decide to cut you off for chasing steam, or whatever reason they give, you will then have to go and submit a complaint with a state agency. Who will then take months to look at your claim, and maybe get your money back.

Be fair now. Your 1st point is legit. Offshore has lower juice.

But is there 1 instance of a new jersey book holdings someone money for chasing steam? Or another illegitimate reason? I have not heard of 1.

**theflyingbuffalo** · 08-26-19, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by kashkenny120

Hope NY is not soon to follow

I wish we could know about other states but it seems like it will be status quo until each state bothers to warn offshore, which could happen anytime without warning. Given NY's track record of scrutinizing gambling, dfs, and being one of the states blocked from some offshore sites in the past, I would guess sooner rather than later...

**TheGuesser** · 08-26-19, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by kashkenny120

Hope NY is not soon to follow

NY doesn't have online and app betting like NJ. I wish we did.

**TheGuesser** · 08-26-19, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Shifty

https://www.betonline.ag/rules see rule 26. The country of New Jersey.

The Jurisdictions of New Jersey, North Korea, and ISIL, Al-Queda, and the Taliban. Sounds about right.

**Waterstpub87** · 08-26-19, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by bubba

Be fair now. Your 1st point is legit. Offshore has lower juice.

But is there 1 instance of a new jersey book holdings someone money for chasing steam? Or another illegitimate reason? I have not heard of 1.

And NJ has had online sports betting for like 15 minutes. Just wait. How many times have you heard of an A or even B book on SBR holding onto anyone's money for any reason besides multi-accounting fraud. And even then, they payout.

**bubba** · 08-26-19, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

And NJ has had online sports betting for like 15 minutes. Just wait. How many times have you heard of an A or even B book on SBR holding onto anyone's money for any reason besides multi-accounting fraud. And even then, they payout.

I have had A books cancel wagers without just cause (multiple times). I have had B+ books get up and run away with my and other players money. Dont have to worry about any of that with new jersey books. yes offshore has its advantages, but to act like there is no advantage to the safety of funds onshore sites provide is a bit disingenuous or ill-informed.

**jtoler** · 08-26-19, 08:40 PM

lol sept. just a few days away how they gonna fulfill all those payouts in time uh they wont

**Waterstpub87** · 08-26-19, 10:10 PM

Quick update:

Betonline waived 24,000 worth rollover so I could cash out. Put the cash out request for Lowvig and Betonline at around 7 pm. Bitcoin was in my wallet 3 hours later. Props to betonline. Will really miss using them. Sad set of circumstances, but appreciate the service in getting the money quickly. Won't be same without the fun scratch cards showing up, even though you already know what each of the bonuses are already.

**DontTailMe** · 08-27-19, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by moojoo

What is problem for BOL to go and open legal site and outfit in state of New Jersey. If they do so,they would not be able to pull stunts like all other Curacao and Costa Rica books. What is problem to be legit and accept high rollers?

You think states are going to give licenses to companies which haven't been paying US taxes for years? Not going to happen when there are plenty of casinos ready to take over this new space. And those casinos have lobbyist to make sure the competition stays on the outside looking in.

**bunion bill** · 08-27-19, 09:34 AM

BetOnline should honor bets made in past couple months that are pending . I had over 6k worth of them . Not fair in my opinion. No one saw this coming ?

**patswin** · 08-27-19, 09:52 AM

First CRIS now BOL....not good. NJ must be going after offshores hard

**patswin** · 08-27-19, 09:54 AM

BetOnline currently restricts play only from the following jurisdictions:

[*=left]Australia
[*=left]Central African Republic
[*=left]Democratic Republic of the Congo
[*=left]Eritrea
[*=left]France
[*=left]Guinea-Bissau
[*=left]Iran
[*=left]Iraq
[*=left]ISIL (Da'esh), Al- Qaida and the Taliban
[*=left]Lebanon
[*=left]Libya
[*=left]Mali
[*=left]Malta
[*=left]New Jersey
[*=left]North Korea
[*=left]Panama
[*=left]Somalia
[*=left]South Sudan
[*=left]Somalia
[*=left]Sudan
[*=left]Yemen

kinda funny reading down the list and seeing NJ...

**TheGuesser** · 08-27-19, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by bunion bill

BetOnline should honor bets made in past couple months that are pending . I had over 6k worth of them . Not fair in my opinion. No one saw this coming ?

Agree, if legally possible. When Pinnacle left the US market they allowed all future bets to stand, and paid them out months later.

**Fishhead** · 08-27-19, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by patswin

BetOnline currently restricts play only from the following jurisdictions:

[*=left]Australia
[*=left]Central African Republic
[*=left]Democratic Republic of the Congo
[*=left]Eritrea
[*=left]France
[*=left]Guinea-Bissau
[*=left]Iran
[*=left]Iraq
[*=left]ISIL (Da'esh), Al- Qaida and the Taliban
[*=left]Lebanon
[*=left]Libya
[*=left]Mali
[*=left]Malta
[*=left]New Jersey
[*=left]North Korea
[*=left]Panama
[*=left]Somalia
[*=left]South Sudan
[*=left]Somalia
[*=left]Sudan
[*=left]Yemen

kinda funny reading down the list and seeing NJ...

WOW

**gauchojake** · 08-27-19, 04:39 PM

I heard ISIL are action junkies