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  • email22
    SBR Rookie
    • 04-15-09
    • 5

    #1
    Jetbull Problem
    The 8th April I was looking for a bet with high rate and I chose
    Fiorentina - Cagliari First half with odds 8.5
    I placed two bets of 29 and 50 euro (#962021369652 and # 962021366563) and they have accepted all my bets without problems.
    Only when the game is finished (11th April) and I won my bets, they have communicated to me that bets were cancelled:

    >In regards to your question about the canceled bets #962021369652
    > and # 962021366563, they were canceled because of a provable technical
    > defect, according to the Terms and Conditions, article 2.9:
    >
    > https://www.jetbull.com/terms-and-conditions/#2

    what "provable technical defect" mean?
  • The General
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-10-05
    • 13279

    #2
    Welcome. I read it that the odds were incorrectly posted on the website.
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    • The General
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-10-05
      • 13279

      #3
      Last game: Fiorentina 2 - 1 Cagliari, Apr 11


      What exactly was your wager?
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      • austin
        Restricted User
        • 04-16-09
        • 901

        #4
        jetbull withdrawal question

        I would really appreciate if anyone who knows could comment on jetbull withdrawals. I have completed the wagering requirement of the bonus and tried to withdraw my winnings, but the withdrawal option brought up a warning message that my account is suspended and contact support which I did and now waiting for their reply. Is it a normal practice with jetbull? To make it clear I sent my ID, bank statment and back and front of the depositing card shortly after registering about 2 months ago.
        Thank you in advance.
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        • The General
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-10-05
          • 13279

          #5
          Welcome and please fill out a Complaint Form.
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          • The General
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-10-05
            • 13279

            #6
            Please see my blog update today.

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            • email22
              SBR Rookie
              • 04-15-09
              • 5

              #7
              I placed Fiorentina- Cagliari First half X. and I won because Fiorentina 0 - 0 Cagliari First half.

              I followed the same procedure for my other bets with high rate:
              #859956233878 bet placed 24 euro with odds 6
              #859956247091 bet placed 24 euro with odds 6
              #859956347299 bet placed 4 euro with odds 4
              ...
              #950948300707 bet placed 25.50 euro with odds 4
              #950958847389 bet placed 31 euro with odds 4
              I have lost those bets, and I have not protested. So I think that is not a technical defect but maybe they have just proposed a odds that was too high.
              In addition, only if I win there is a technical problem? This makes it impossible to win in the jetbull site
              and is not a seriously behavior.
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              • noyb
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 09-13-05
                • 971

                #8
                Originally posted by email22
                I placed Fiorentina- Cagliari First half X. and I won because Fiorentina 0 - 0 Cagliari First half.

                I followed the same procedure for my other bets with high rate:
                #859956233878 bet placed 24 euro with odds 6
                #859956247091 bet placed 24 euro with odds 6
                #859956347299 bet placed 4 euro with odds 4
                ...
                #950948300707 bet placed 25.50 euro with odds 4
                #950958847389 bet placed 31 euro with odds 4
                I have lost those bets, and I have not protested. So I think that is not a technical defect but maybe they have just proposed a odds that was too high.
                In addition, only if I win there is a technical problem? This makes it impossible to win in the jetbull site
                and is not a seriously behavior.
                sorry, but the draw at half time in an Italian Serie A game with odds of 8.5 is clearly wrong and you knew that. Fair odds would have been something between 1.9 and 2.5 probably. It's bad practice to void after the event, but you knew when you bet these odds must have been wrong. Imo the book should pay fair value on the bet, which is not that hard to calculate, but definitely not the full amount

                with regards to the other bets that were not voided: were these also bets at incorrect odds, or were this bets on different games with correct odds posted (in which case, ofcourse they should not be voided)
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                • email22
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 04-15-09
                  • 5

                  #9
                  I'm not an expert and I don't know when a odds is wrong. I was looking for a bet with high odds and unlikely I choose Fiorentina - Cagliari.
                  Do you think I can ask jetbull to pay me with the correct odds?

                  The other bets were on different games (tennis, basket) but for me it was the same: bets with high odds.
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                  • pjesnik24
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-01-05
                    • 1286

                    #10
                    those were for sure wrong odds, a half time draw at odds 8.5? come on... Those would be correct odds if barca was playing bosnian champion or something like that.
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                    • blueWORLD
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 04-15-09
                      • 9

                      #11
                      jetbull is a running a well designed website and offering many bonuses to loyal customers, however, they are also known for slow paying at the moment. i have been told that a former manager of the state owned gambling organisation is in charge of jetbull...?! can somebody confirm?
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                      • email22
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 04-15-09
                        • 5

                        #12
                        I had a live chat. The operator said that I have to wait an email from the technical department and that he doesn't have information about my problem because it is another departement.
                        I asked if they have a telephone number but nothing. The other departement is not reacheable.
                        It's impossible to comunicate with jetbull!!!
                        Last edited by email22; 04-17-09, 09:14 AM.
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                        • noyb
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-13-05
                          • 971

                          #13
                          Originally posted by email22
                          I'm not an expert and I don't know when a odds is wrong. I was looking for a bet with high odds and unlikely I choose Fiorentina - Cagliari.
                          Do you think I can ask jetbull to pay me with the correct odds?

                          The other bets were on different games (tennis, basket) but for me it was the same: bets with high odds.
                          apparently judging from the blog of The General SBR has good relations with Jetbull. You can file a complaint with SBR and SBR will contact Jetbull for you.

                          I can tell you now you have no case to get your money back on your other bets, but perhaps you can get fair odds on the Fiorentina-game if Jetbull wants to show SBR they're helpful
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                          • email22
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 04-15-09
                            • 5

                            #14
                            I filled a complain form yesterday. I hope SBR can do something
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                            • austin
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-16-09
                              • 901

                              #15
                              withdrawal

                              Originally posted by austin
                              I would really appreciate if anyone who knows could comment on jetbull withdrawals. I have completed the wagering requirement of the bonus and tried to withdraw my winnings, but the withdrawal option brought up a warning message that my account is suspended and contact support which I did and now waiting for their reply. Is it a normal practice with jetbull? To make it clear I sent my ID, bank statment and back and front of the depositing card shortly after registering about 2 months ago.
                              Thank you in advance.
                              Just wanted to post a quick update. The withdrawal option has been enabled for me after sending an email to 'support'. Will update more when the withdrawal reaches moneybookers.
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                              • GoodOldTed
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-03-09
                                • 135

                                #16
                                nice try email22 - why on earth would you bet on such a result if you didn't know the price was a mistake?
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                                • The General
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 13279

                                  #17
                                  Response by Jetbull

                                  In regards to the Fiorentina - Cagliari match, JETBULL has the following announcement to make:

                                  It is correct that JETBULL posted odds on the mentioned match of home goal 1.55, no goal 8.5 and away goal 2.95.

                                  As it was a technical mistake on our side, all bets were moved to the first half of the match.

                                  We have acted according to our Term&Conditions (par.2.9) as it is obvious that the no goal odd of 8.5 was not correct (given the fact that the average odd in such situation is usually between 1.9 and 2.4).

                                  JETBULL treats the user's misinterpretation as not fair and incorrect!

                                  All users, who have placed bets on Fiorentina win in the 1st half, and lost it, were given their bets/money back. In addition, we have had more bets on 1 (home goal) than on draw, and none of them complained as these things sometimes do happen.


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                                  • austin
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 04-16-09
                                    • 901

                                    #18
                                    jetbull withdrawal

                                    Originally posted by The General
                                    Welcome and please fill out a Complaint Form.
                                    just wanted to mention that i submitted the complaint form on this monday and received the payment on tuesday. i am not sure with the procedures of canceling the form if not needed anymore. anyway would like to say thank you to the general for his suggestion.
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                                    • jacuzzy
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 04-29-09
                                      • 1

                                      #19
                                      Hello everyone.I ' m a fresh face who has a suspended account at jetbull.This never happened to me before and it is a big suprise.Never belive it that it could happen to me.I register to jetbull , waggered maybe 550 euro but I had no plan for whithdrawal.These days I saw on SBR that there are some problems with jetbull and I tried to make my first whitdrawal.Of course I've sent scan of my ID card , credit card , utility bill - it was no problem.Now I've tried to login to see where are my money - account suspended!I've talked to someone on the site and the answer blow my mind : multiple accounts .What???How can you say multiple accounts???You have my ID with photo, my card , utility bill , adress , phone number ,bankaccount -not even my wife knows all this things - and you say -multiple accounts???Say that you have some problems , say that you need some time or anything else...but do not make me a cheater!I was really angry.Sent an e-mail to them...maybe i'll get an answer next week.How can you suspend an account with no warning , with no proof , with nothing?! I will stay with my closes bookmakers and I woun't try anything new.This was my lesson - just wanted to let you know , I'll keep you posted.Cheers to SRB and all users -great things u're doing here.
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                                      • Brato
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 04-30-09
                                        • 9

                                        #20
                                        just stay away from jetbull! 8 days ago i request withdraw.. support is ignoring me and no money came to MB yet!! so everyone who have account there take your cash and run fast
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                                        • Brato
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 04-30-09
                                          • 9

                                          #21
                                          wow , was chating with their support right now..
                                          Holger: As you are waiting so long and due to the fact that you have no funds on your account, I would like to offer you a free bet bonus for the inconvinience.

                                          allways something
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                                          • Edmond
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 05-05-09
                                            • 2

                                            #22
                                            I WISH I HAD KNOWN ABOUT THIS WEBSITE AND YOUR BLOG EARLIER.I WOULD NEVER
                                            DEPOSIT MONEY TO JETBULL IF I READ ABOUT THEM IN YOUR BLOG.I HAVE
                                            MET ALL THEIR BONUS CONDITIONS , THEN I HAVE SEND THEM MY PASSPORTS SCANNED COPIES AND PRINT SCREEN OF MY MONEYBOOKERS ACCOUNT WHERE THEY CAN SEE MY DEPOSIT DETAILS.I RECEIVED REPLY FROM THEM .HERE IT IS

                                            "Dear Jetbull Customer,

                                            We would like to thank you for sending us your documents.

                                            We can confirm we have received and approved these documents.
                                            Your account is now verified.

                                            BET regards,

                                            Your Jetbull Risk team"

                                            THEN I MADE A WITHDRAWAL REQUEST 500 $

                                            A DAY LATER I RECEIVED MESSAGE



                                            From: Finance Jetbull
                                            Date: 2009/4/30
                                            To: EMAIL EDITED



                                            Dear Jetbull customer,
                                            According to our records the ID card uploaded in your JETBULL account
                                            does not show any address.

                                            For your safety and due to conditions for our licence we must now
                                            receive the below documentation so that we can fully verify your Jetbull
                                            account and complete your recent withdrawal request.

                                            Please provide the following piece of documentation to support the
                                            present request:

                                            -A clear copy of a bank statement or utility bill sent to your home
                                            address not older than 3 months (gas, water, telephone or electric bill)
                                            showing name, address and date.

                                            Please scan/photograph then upload the above documentation using the
                                            "Document Upload" page from your Jetbull account.

                                            ***Please do not ignore this request.***
                                            If the above documentation will not be provided within the next 3
                                            days, your pending withdrawal will be voided and any funds credited back
                                            in the balance of your JETBULL account.

                                            Thank you for your cooperation.
                                            ---
                                            Kind regards,

                                            Jetbull Finance Team
                                            E: finance@jetbull.com
                                            W: JETBULL.com

                                            THERE IS MY ADDRESS IN MY PASSPORTS SCANNED COPY.EDITED[/URL]
                                            I DECIDED THEY COULD NOT READ IT BECAUSE IT IS ON ARMENIAN.SO SENT THEM ADDITIONAL ADDRESS PROOF. 1.MY PASSPORTS NOTARIZED TRANSLATION INTO RUSSIAN
                                            WHERE MY ADDRESS IS WRITTEN ON RUSSIAN.
                                            2. UTILITY BILL/GAS/. 3.PRINT SCREEN OF MY MONEYBOOKERS ACCOUNT WITH MY ADDRES.
                                            NEXT DAY MY ACCOUNT WAS BLOCKED. THERE IS 100$ AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED 500$ WITHDRAWAL. PLEASE HELP ME. 600$ IS BIG MONEY IN ARMENIA.MY MONTHLY SALARY IS ONLY 150$.IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO STEAL MY MONEY. TODAY I SENT THEM MY CREDIT CARDS MONTHLY TRANSACTION SUMMARY WHERE THEY COULD SEE MY NAME AND ADDRESS. I ALSO SEND THEM MY CREDIT CARD FRONT PAGE THOUGH I USE OONLY MONEYBOOKERS TO DEPOSIT MONEY

                                            PLEASE HELP. I HAVE READ MANY SIMILAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS SCAMMERS IN YOUR SITE AND I GUESS THAT I WOULD NEVER GET MY MONEY WITHOUT YOUR HELP
                                            THANK YOU
                                            EDMOND
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                                            • Justin7
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-31-06
                                              • 8577

                                              #23
                                              Odds of 8.0 on a draw are clearly wrong. The book is in its rights to void that, but they should do it before the event begins and notify you.

                                              On the other hand, you bet something that was clearly wrong with a mediocre/bad book. Expect to get screwed when this happens.
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                                              • charlesnorton
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 05-17-09
                                                • 1

                                                #24
                                                Jetbull will be gone

                                                Jetbull are using the LINKED ACCOUNT term as an excuse to halt payment, they say more than one person has bet from an IP address, that would be a perfectly normal thing if you bet in a sports cafe, public library. hotel. wine bar, mcdonalds, pub (The list is endless)
                                                Understand this is purely an excuse so dont join thinking that you are on your own little computer at home so will be alright, im watching over a case at the moment which has left a person in great distress, instead of celebrating a winning teble they have been ignored for eight days, after jet bull got the documents (More that they needed) they pulled the WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THIS ACCOUNT IS LINKED, its an extremely weak excuse in these days of cafes etc but theyll do anything to avoid payment, i dont think theyll see the year out DO NOT JOIN THESE PEOPLE.....REPEAT DO NOT
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                                                • rakeback-online
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 05-22-09
                                                  • 1

                                                  #25
                                                  not that bad after all

                                                  Hi all, I just wanted to comment about this situation with Jetbull.
                                                  I have been playing with them for the last 3, 4 months and I don't really mind this site. I have to admit that the security process used by them to verify my details was a bit more demanding than some other sporting sites however...

                                                  in regards to the cancelled bets for this match i obectivly think that it is fair enough their decision to cancel the bets with wrong odds value, technical problem like this can happen.

                                                  delay in payments: I had a delay of 1 week once when I had to receive a card withdrawal for about $4500 but the money always arrived and all other e-wallets deposits and withdrawals are usually processed on time.
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                                                  • EasyR
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 05-21-09
                                                    • 6

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by email22
                                                    I'm not an expert and I don't know when a odds is wrong. I was looking for a bet with high odds and unlikely I choose Fiorentina - Cagliari.
                                                    Do you think I can ask jetbull to pay me with the correct odds?

                                                    The other bets were on different games (tennis, basket) but for me it was the same: bets with high odds.
                                                    Odds around 8 at half? You must be crazy if you think its normal.. ..
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                                                    • Edmond
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 05-05-09
                                                      • 2

                                                      #27
                                                      HI EVERYONE
                                                      I HAVE FILLED COMPLAINT REGARDING MY JETBULL PROBLEM.MANY THANKS TO PETE / THE GENERAL/.AFTER HE HAD CONTACTED THEM I HAVE RECEIVED THIS EMAIL



                                                      Dear Mr.Stepanyan,

                                                      As you could recognize your Jetbull account was suspended last week for security reasons.

                                                      After reinvestigating your issue we concluded that it was a mistake and we reopened your Jetbull account.

                                                      We would like to apologize for this complication which was caused by our Risk department.

                                                      We thank you for understanding.

                                                      ---
                                                      Kind regards,

                                                      Jetbull Finance Team
                                                      E: finance@jetbull.com
                                                      W: JETBULL.com
                                                      MY
                                                      THEN I REPEATED MY WITHDRAWAL REQUEST AGAIN 500 $ / THERE IS 600 $ IN MY ACCOUNT/.
                                                      AFTER 10 DAYS I RECEIVED MONEY TO MY MONEYBOOKERS ACCOUNT.
                                                      AGAIN MANY THANKS TO PETE AND SBR.
                                                      I AM GOING TO BET WITH REMAINING 100$. IF WIN I WILL TRY TO WITHDRAW ONCE MORE, SEE HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES AND THEN DECIDE IF I AM GOING TO CONTINUE BETTING WITH THEM
                                                      THANK YOU
                                                      EDMOND
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