mls & draws

**RoagBettor** · 06-25-11, 03:10 PM

You are definitely the King of Draws! I want to correlate some of my project picks with your plays

**OneTipster** · 06-25-11, 03:25 PM

Another good pick is FC Dallas -0.5, -1 @ 1.90 (Bet365).

**pacers101** · 06-25-11, 04:38 PM

Well Roag we'll see after these plays if I'm the king of draws or not. i try to aspire to be the roag of draws. good luck in your plays. And yea tipster that Dallas pick is a good one too. feel free any and everyone to chime in and give any picks or insight you have as well.

**pacers101** · 06-25-11, 09:55 PM

Well got the LA game but lost the kc game. should have went with my first instinct and took Houston. sometimes i guess you can overanalyze and talk yourself out of a good play. still got 2 tomorrow so hopefully we can pull this out. Brazil was crap sorry bout that

**psulions** · 06-26-11, 06:29 PM

Worth a shot here. Columbus and Colorado draw tonight at +225. Colorado has three draws in their last 5 matches.

**pacers101** · 06-26-11, 09:04 PM

Wow what the heck happened in Columbus. went 2-2 for the weekend. didn't make much but netted a little.

**ColdBeerHere** · 06-26-11, 09:30 PM

Just curious....what kind of odds do they usually offer for draws ? I went back for the last month...If you bet every game there would be one 4 game losing streak (if you could bet every game - I think these games were in the same time slot)

So it you are getting decent odds I think a chase draw system could be profitable.

**pacers101** · 06-26-11, 09:45 PM

Draws are usually over+200. I like to parlay them. a 2 game parlay will pay at the very least 9-1, and lot of times 10-1 or over. but definitely chase in the right leagues will be profitable. consider betting single games you only need around 30% to break even. roagbettor has a thread where he is using a 2-5 system for draws. might check that out as well. i've found mls, Argentina, Japan are good for draws. Russia, Sweden are fairly good as well

**ColdBeerHere** · 06-26-11, 10:54 PM

pacers, thanks for the info...I am going to look into this some more...

+200 odds and higher are sweeeeeeet

**pacers101** · 06-27-11, 04:39 PM

5 week record for individual picks 11-9 (actual parlays are 8-18) profit= +$477. there seems to be less draws on the weekend the past 2 weeks than when I first started. this weekend only 3 draws(we got 2 of them, 2 sat, 1 sun) last week I think 3 as well(2 saturday 1 sunday). the 1st 2 weeks there were like 4 and 5 draws. weekdays are still good. hopefully things will go back to how they were the 1st 2 weeks. depending on how the card looks next weekend I will bump these up to $20 a play instead of $10

**RoagBettor** · 06-27-11, 05:18 PM

Good work my friend. I wish Czech and Polish leagues were playing now, there are good opportunities there also.

**ColdBeerHere** · 06-27-11, 07:58 PM

hmmm...I'm really considering starting a chase system for draws....

So basically the leagues I should be looking at right now are MLS, Argentina, Japan, Sweden, and Russia ? any other leagues that you can think of that might be worth a shot ?

**mlbpicks1992** · 06-27-11, 11:34 PM

the mls is all about draws......

**pacers101** · 06-28-11, 02:40 PM

this is 'unofficial' play(official plays are mls only) for the night:
6/28/2011 6:30 PM Brazil Soccer 312 Draw (Nautico (BRA-B) vs Duque De Caxias (BRA-B))* +235
6/28/2011 6:30 PM Brazil Soccer 315 Draw (ABC (BRA-B) vs Sport Recife (BRA-B))* +255
6/29/2011 7:30 PM USA MLS Soccer 103 Draw (Vancouver Whitecaps (USA-MLS) vs Toronto (USA-MLS))* +233
Risking $5.00 To Win $193.01
I also have these round robin w/2's at $10 a piece. one that I was thinking of playing draw or +.5 was ASA/ Icasa but I took ASA at +445, I might be crazy but ASA has won the past 3 matchups and 4 out of the past 6 with the other 2 being draws they are 2-1-0 (w-d-l) at Icasa.

crap mls is tomorrow. that is the 2nd time today I've f'd up like that. I was thinking brazil womens played to day and parlayed with US women also. maybe I need to get more sleep. oh well it's all good just have to wait a day(which I hate to do)

I'm adding oita trinita/yokohama & kumomoto/kyoto to the round robin for a total 5 game round robin $100 total I need to hit 2 draws (1 parlay) to break even. hope I didn't just sh*t on myself.

**pacers101** · 06-28-11, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by ColdBeerHere

hmmm...I'm really considering starting a chase system for draws....

So basically the leagues I should be looking at right now are MLS, Argentina, Japan, Sweden, and Russia ? any other leagues that you can think of that might be worth a shot ?

mls is the main draw league right now. in japan a few teams to watch are Urawa reds, omiya ardija, ointa trinta, cezero osaka. Russia and sweden do have quite a few draws but be very selective. the league I can't wait to start is France. seems like every game is a draw there at least it seemed like that at the end of last season.

**ColdBeerHere** · 06-28-11, 07:35 PM

thanks for the info...I single bet that BRA-B game just now and hit it

**ColdBeerHere** · 06-29-11, 01:09 PM

Wow, I guess leagues do matter for draws, eh ?

I bet RoPs - Jarro in the Finland V league today for a draw....Both teams were near the bottom of the standings and had scored very few goals....Looked like a good draw bet...

Jarro ended up winning 8-2

Think I'm going to bet the draw tonight in MLS....VAN-TOR

What do you think of MLS NASL for draws ? Just as good as regular MLS ?

Puerto Rico-Montreal are playing tonight...by the odds it looks like a close game.

**pacers101** · 06-29-11, 04:14 PM

I don't know much about NASL, but to me the other one(tampa/ft laud) looks closer to a draw. the +.5 and under are higher juiced than PR/mont and ft laud has drew 7 times this year, h2h is 1 wL-4 draws, but I don't really follow the league so that's just my best GUESS. but if you feel the other game go with it. I wouldn't want to talk someone out of a winner. I've never really followed finland for draws either, if I bet finland it's usually on totals or on HJK. Japan f'd me up last night. I might stick to J-1, J-2 seems a little too inconsistent for me. I will hit everything or nothing. I went 1-5 on sides and totals and the 1 was a tail from Roag(thanks). I might wait a few weeks and see whats going down there before I jump back in it. I need this mls tonight to break even on my parlays. GL to all

**pacers101** · 06-29-11, 05:16 PM

I hit a good lick earlier w/ brazil & hjk and brazil & US parlays so for fun
this is me tonight RR w/2 & 3, + I still have the 2 game parlay from the brazil last night and mls tonight.
6/29/2011 6:30 PM Brazil Soccer 153 Draw (Flamengo (BRA-A) vs America Mineiro (BRA-A))* +262
6/29/2011 7:30 PM USA MLS Soccer 103 Draw (Vancouver Whitecaps (USA-MLS) vs Toronto (USA-MLS))* +244
6/29/2011 7:30 PM USA MLS Soccer 536 Draw (Tampa Bay Rowdies (NASL) vs Fort Lauderdale Strikers (NASL))* +234

Risking $20.00 (4 parlays at $5.00) To Win $368.12

**pacers101** · 06-29-11, 08:35 PM

epic fail on the draws, dang it.

**ColdBeerHere** · 06-29-11, 08:38 PM

Well looks like we struck out with the MLS tonight...should have played Ft.lauderdale, that tied 1-1.....

I'm runnin' a 5 game chase with these draws, that was my 3rd leg.....Need to hit one of my next two bets.

Have you got any thoughts on San Martin SJ - Gimnasia LP for tomorrow ?

EDIT: I ended up betting the draw in the San Martin / Gimnasia game....4th leg of my chase....had 4 units on it at 3 books with +264 (5dimes) +220 (DSI) AND +230 (Bodog)...So far in 4 days I am up 10+ units at one of my books, and 7+ units at the other two

**psulions** · 06-30-11, 10:35 PM

This weekend looks good for some draws. Philly/DC, Chivas/Chicago, Portland/KC and San Jose/NY.

**pacers101** · 07-01-11, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by ColdBeerHere

Well looks like we struck out with the MLS tonight...should have played Ft.lauderdale, that tied 1-1.....

I'm runnin' a 5 game chase with these draws, that was my 3rd leg.....Need to hit one of my next two bets.

Have you got any thoughts on San Martin SJ - Gimnasia LP for tomorrow ?

EDIT: I ended up betting the draw in the San Martin / Gimnasia game....4th leg of my chase....had 4 units on it at 3 books with +264 (5dimes) +220 (DSI) AND +230 (Bodog)...So far in 4 days I am up 10+ units at one of my books, and 7+ units at the other two

Good job on the gimnasia pick. it was a 2nd leg of a playoff/relegation game. the other team was up so all they needed was a tie. I was just concered that gimnasia being down 1 might try to win. so I didn't take it. But I've hit quite a few draws with gimnasia. good results man, keep it up. just wondering on your chase are you upping the bet after each loss or keeping it flat until the 4th leg? just curious because of the +odds how you're working that.

Originally posted by psulions

This weekend looks good for some draws. Philly/DC, Chivas/Chicago, Portland/KC and San Jose/NY.

looking good there. is that sj/ny @ sj? personally I don't like going against sj @home because I've been burnt by them a couple times this year but that's just me. although I did take the draw with them last week against LA.

**ColdBeerHere** · 07-01-11, 12:19 PM

Pacers, this is how I am doing my chase:

1-2-3-4-6

With this chase and these odds you get your lost bet(s) from the leg before, and also make 2+ units......That 4th leg was the furthest I have gone so far....

Today I am on the 2nd leg....I'm going for the draw in the Sweden-S league - game between (Vasteras (SWE-S) vs Qviding FIF (SWE-S)) +272*

**pacers101** · 07-01-11, 05:02 PM

I'm going with this tonight. I'm only 1-2 in brazil draws this week, so tail at own risk.
7/1/2011 6:30 PM Brazil Soccer 253 Draw (Americana (BRA-B) vs Bragantino SP (BRA-B))* +241

**ColdBeerHere** · 07-01-11, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by pacers101

I'm going with this tonight. I'm only 1-2 in brazil draws this week, so tail at own risk.
7/1/2011 6:30 PM Brazil Soccer 253 Draw (Americana (BRA-B) vs Bragantino SP (BRA-B))* +241

Before I even saw this post I had it betted

I'm on the third leg of my chase with this one.

**pacers101** · 07-01-11, 08:07 PM

man brazil just killing me. I was going to try japan but I think I might take a break until mls tomorrow.

**pacers101** · 07-01-11, 10:12 PM

1st time for china but here goes:
7/2/11 5:00am China Soccer 551 Draw (Beijing Guoan (CHN) vs Shaanxi Baorong Chanba (CHN)) +225* vs Beijing Guoan (CHN)
7/2/11 7:30am China Soccer 554 Draw (Henan Jianye (CHN) vs Chengdu Blades F.C. (CHN)) +226* vs Henan Jianye (CHN)

**psulions** · 07-02-11, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by pacers101

looking good there. is that sj/ny @ sj? personally I don't like going against sj @home because I've been burnt by them a couple times this year but that's just me. although I did take the draw with them last week against LA.

Yeah it's in SJ. New York gets their starters back from gold cup, but still a cross country flight for them.

**pacers101** · 07-02-11, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by psulions

Yeah it's in SJ. New York gets their starters back from gold cup, but still a cross country flight for them.

with ny getting their players back, now that should be a good game.

and can you believe on the draw tip I pick sides in 3 japan games that originally I picked as draws but canceled. and they end up as draws. I even had them parlayed with the china picks. I am

with myself right now.

looks like 1-1 with the china draws

**pacers101** · 07-02-11, 08:30 AM

my mls round robin plays:
7/2/2011 7:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 303 Draw (Philadelphia Union (USA-MLS) vs Washington (USA-MLS))* +228
7/2/2011 10:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 309 Draw (Chicago (USA-MLS) vs US Chivas (USA-MLS)) +228
7/2/2011 11:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 315 Draw (Sporting Kansas City (USA-MLS) vs Portland Timbers (USA-MLS))* +231
7/3/2011 9:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 153 Draw (Houston (USA-MLS) vs Colorado (USA-MLS))* +242

Risking $120.00 (6 parlays at $20.00) To Win $1,204.55

2 draws in sweden:
7/2/11 10:00am Sweden Soccer 851 Draw (IFK Goteborg (SWE-A) vs Syrianska FC (SWE-A)) +242* vs IFK Goteborg (SWE-A)
7/2/11 10:00am Sweden Soccer 866 Draw (Ljungskile (SWE-S) vs Angelholms FF (SWE-S)) +284* vs Ljungskile (SWE-S)

**ColdBeerHere** · 07-02-11, 12:57 PM

nice hit on that Sweden draw at +284

....wish I was up to bet that one....I do like that Japan league for draws...I bet 3 over night games, and hit two of them....

I'm debating whether or not to bet a Brazil game today or not....I know you said you are staying away....I'll be on MLS tonight though in one way or another.....I like the way you round robin them....

**psulions** · 07-02-11, 05:31 PM

[quote=pacers101;10655081]my mls round robin plays:
7/2/2011 7:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 303 Draw (Philadelphia Union (USA-MLS) vs Washington (USA-MLS))* +228
7/2/2011 10:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 309 Draw (Chicago (USA-MLS) vs US Chivas (USA-MLS)) +228
7/2/2011 11:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 315 Draw (Sporting Kansas City (USA-MLS) vs Portland Timbers (USA-MLS))* +231
7/3/2011 9:00 PM USA MLS Soccer 153 Draw (Houston (USA-MLS) vs Colorado (USA-MLS))* +242

Risking $120.00 (6 parlays at $20.00) To Win $1,204.55

love all four of these tonight. let's get that $$$$$

**ColdBeerHere** · 07-02-11, 07:12 PM

hmmm....the one game I was eyeing up to bet was the game you guys didn't pick...NY @ SJ

**psulions** · 07-02-11, 08:04 PM

1/1 so far. NY/SJ worth a shot. NY has been the king of draws this season.