If you want the USA to lose jump in here

[Socrates]

id much rather of had Egypt and Russia in for Slovenia and Algeria both of which will be happy to go home with a point. They don't play good football, just defend, foul defend foul defend foul, i hate that type of football

Slovenia played fantastic football, up until the Americans scored. Still, very impressed with their side. If someone would have warned them about the American never say die attitude at half time, they could have been much more catious to hold on. Great game.

lets be serious, yellow was the right call there , Slovenia were fouling all game long

Let's see you jump up with Dempsey and take that elbow, you won't think it's just a yellow afterwards. Did Dempsey even get a yellow?

[TurkzZ]

im not sure, anyway no point crying over spilt milk, as Jigga man says, on to the next one lol

[lyon804]

I see my ***** Goat Milk in this thread... Sup bro.. I figured you for an original gansta.. I never met any gansta's that digged soccer.

[Goat Milk]

I see my ***** Goat Milk in this thread... Sup bro.. I figured you for an original gansta.. I never met any gansta's that digged soccer.

soccer is unreal i love it. iwath it by myself though cause no one here likes it. what about you

[lyon804]

soccer is unreal i love it. iwath it by myself though cause no one here likes it. what about you

Don't have a handle on the game, but glad people enjoy it.. To each his own my friend.

[poochiecollins]

Canadians are Americans too.... North Americans.. Gotta love tough guys from socialized countries, that lack a military. Dont worry we will still love ,and protect you. PS: Americans could give a damn about Soccer. We only care about sports were we excel. Its selfish, but true.

False. Futbol is considered an effeminate sport by many/most in the US and there's good evidence that USA men would be a dominate world team if futbol was as popular as the other three major US sports. That evidence is my own observation how many sports American males will generally consider before futbol, and that USA has the world's best women's team.

I don't agree with futbol being effeminate btw, just bringing certain largely accepted opinions to attention.

[kdavis]

We love you too Houli. Well, I guess that doesn't make sense since I'm half and half. But you know what I mean. And we'll still let in all of your elderly and sick citizens who are tired of not having access to decent medical care. Or worse, will die because they can't afford a simple prescription.

Shari please list just one documented case where someone in USA has ever died from being denied medical care or died from not being able to afford a simple prescription. Legal or illegal immigrant. there are NO cases no matter what the present socialist govt. administration would have you believe. The few cases they have brought up have been disproved, even by the liberal media. I know this is a sports forum and will probably be crucified for speaking of these things but like I said, all this anti America crap just gets to be too much sometime. If it were up to me I would tell the rest of this world to just take care of themselves and leave us out of all of their problems. When we help we don't seem to do it right. When we don't help we are heartless bastards. I say F U C K EM ALL.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Shari please list just one documented case where someone in USA has ever died from being denied medical care or died from not being able to afford a simple prescription. Legal or illegal immigrant. there are NO cases no matter what the present socialist govt. administration would have you believe. The few cases they have brought up have been disproved, even by the liberal media. I know this is a sports forum and will probably be crucified for speaking of these things but like I said, all this anti America crap just gets to be too much sometime. If it were up to me I would tell the rest of this world to just take care of themselves and leave us out of all of their problems. When we help we don't seem to do it right. When we don't help we are heartless bastards. I say F U C K EM ALL.

Your a little to patriotic.

[kdavis]

Your a little to patriotic.

I don't know what that means. I've had too many close friends and family fight and die for pussies like you.
I just love the freedom or what's left of it here in this country. I assume you are not from the U.S so I don't expect you to understand. You are used to having some king, queen or dictator telling you how ,what, when and why to do everything from the day you are born until the day you die. Sorry, that's not for me. I would rather take care of myself and my family and have the govt. stay the hell out of my life. If that is being too patriotic, then so be it. I'm done. Like I said. You will never understand until you have experienced true freedom. Now I'm done.

[lakerboy]

I don't know what that means. I've had too many close friends and family fight and die for pussies like you.
I just love the freedom or what's left of it here in this country. I assume you are not from the U.S so I don't expect you to understand. You are used to having some king, queen or dictator telling you how ,what, when and why to do everything from the day you are born until the day you die. Sorry, that's not for me. I would rather take care of myself and my family and have the govt. stay the hell out of my life. If that is being too patriotic, then so be it. I'm done. Like I said. You will never understand until you have experienced true freedom. Now I'm done.

You do realize that over 40000 americans die every year due to lack of health insurance right?

[JOHON8]

Shari please list just one documented case where someone in USA has ever died from being denied medical care or died from not being able to afford a simple prescription. Legal or illegal immigrant. there are NO cases no matter what the present socialist govt. administration would have you believe. The few cases they have brought up have been disproved, even by the liberal media. I know this is a sports forum and will probably be crucified for speaking of these things but like I said, all this anti America crap just gets to be too much sometime. If it were up to me I would tell the rest of this world to just take care of themselves and leave us out of all of their problems. When we help we don't seem to do it right. When we don't help we are heartless bastards. I say F U C K EM ALL.

I won't get into a deep discussion about politics with you because obviously you are in another reality.

But I just have to say this. It's pretty sad that Fox News has brainwashed you and so many other Americans my friend. Don't use the word socialist until you understand what it means and until you understand that the Obama administration would not exist if it wasn't a capitalist one. And with the millions of people dying in your country because of private health care, to say there is no evidence is like saying poor people don't die of hunger. I hope at some point in your life you can realize facts like this and try and take the side of your own people rather than the establishment which is ruining your country.

Let's get back to sports.

[spartangreen]

Actually Johon8 does make a good point, also many elderly Americans have to drive to Canada for their prescription pills because its way cheaper for them, they can't afford to pay for it with the US health care. Thats pretty sad.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Actually Johon8 does make a good point, also many elderly Americans have to drive to Canada for their prescription pills because its way cheaper for them, they can't afford to pay for it with the US health care. Thats pretty sad.

Really sad.

[crazymilkman]

american got lucky today

[necro]

No, they think they should win and that they have been robbed by refs

[TurkzZ]

I won't get into a deep discussion about politics with you because obviously you are in another reality.

But I just have to say this. It's pretty sad that Fox News has brainwashed you and so many other Americans my friend. Don't use the word socialist until you understand what it means and until you understand that the Obama administration would not exist if it wasn't a capitalist one. And with the millions of people dying in your country because of private health care, to say there is no evidence is like saying poor people don't die of hunger. I hope at some point in your life you can realize facts like this and try and take the side of your own people rather than the establishment which is ruining your country.

Let's get back to sports.

[poochiecollins]

But I just have to say this. It's pretty sad that Fox News has brainwashed you and so many other Americans my friend.

Check the Nielsen ratings for the big Fox News shows and compare that to the population of the U.S. Where'd you get the idea that FN was some hugely influential station in the states? Your local news? XD This is besides that there are several other liberal-leaning stations.

And with the millions of people dying in your country because of private health care

Source?

[poochiecollins]

You do realize that over 40000 americans die every year due to lack of health insurance right?

Source?

[JOHON8]

Check the Nielsen ratings for the big Fox News shows and compare that to the population of the U.S. Where'd you get the idea that FN was some hugely influential station in the states? Your local news? XD This is besides that there are several other liberal-leaning stations. Source?

Source?

Harvard medical school source.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58G6W520090917

It took me 2 seconds on google son don't waste my time. If you were someone worthy of discussing with I'd waste another hour pulling scholarly articles on you.

Just about every opinion Fox News has can be proven wrong, the only problem is those people who actually believe them.

[poochiecollins]

Harvard medical school source. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58G6W520090917 It took me 2 seconds on google son don't waste my time.

I'm not responsible for finding sources on the claims of others. You make a claim, you provide the source; it doesn't take much smarts to understand why this is.

Onto the article, it has professional criticism ("The National Center for Policy Analysis [...] said researchers overstated the death risk and did not track how long subjects were uninsured.") and the article caption itself says, "in large part," so saying lack of public health care in the U.S. causes 40k additional annual deaths is at least debatable, if not false. Secondly, I don't like the U.S. health care system either, not because it's not completely socialized but that costs aren't based on health nearly as much as they should be. I'd grant the exceptions of "act of God" health issues. I called for sources because I see people frequently make claims based on a bad source or just their own opinion.

If you were someone worthy of discussing with I'd waste another hour pulling scholarly articles on you.

This part of your post is just weird. Have you even seen my posts outside of this thread? I posted on the first time on this forum the other day and I don't remember seeing your handle anywhere else. It's cute how you talk as if you're intelligent and are well-read on the topic, then follow with...

Just about every opinion Fox News has can be proven wrong, the only problem is those people who actually believe them.

"Just about every opinion" eh? Source[s]? Guys, what would the ML odds be of JOHON8 pulling this out of his ass?

I just noticed, most of the way into this post, that you were the one who said "millions" are dying in the U.S. because of partially privatized health care. So, you don't reply to my Nielsen rating argument on why Fox News is small time and my comment on you getting this impression from your own foreign news source, implying that you agree that Fox News mostly inconsequential and that you have in fact ironically formed opinions of FN from a professional news source, but your health care mortality assertion is proven wrong by your own research, and you still reply to me in gusto and essentially call me an idiot?

Wow.

It takes a special kind of person to do that. Someone like this:




Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics.

[Socrates]

Way to ruin a thread with politics. Lets get back to soccer yea?

[JOHON8]

I'm not responsible for finding sources on the claims of others. You make a claim, you provide the source; it doesn't take much smarts to understand why this is.

Onto the article, it has professional criticism ("The National Center for Policy Analysis [...] said researchers overstated the death risk and did not track how long subjects were uninsured.") and the article caption itself says, "in large part," so saying lack of public health care in the U.S. causes 40k additional annual deaths is at least debatable, if not false. Secondly, I don't like the U.S. health care system either, not because it's not completely socialized but that costs aren't based on health nearly as much as they should be. I'd grant the exceptions of "act of God" health issues. I called for sources because I see people frequently make claims based on a bad source or just their own opinion.


This part of your post is just weird. Have you even seen my posts outside of this thread? I posted on the first time on this forum the other day and I don't remember seeing your handle anywhere else. It's cute how you talk as if you're intelligent and are well-read on the topic, then follow with...

"Just about every opinion" eh? Source[s]? Guys, what would the ML odds be of JOHON8 pulling this out of his ass?

I just noticed, most of the way into this post, that you were the one who said "millions" are dying in the U.S. because of partially privatized health care. So, you don't reply to my Nielsen rating argument on why Fox News is small time and my comment on you getting this impression from your own foreign news source, implying that you agree that Fox News mostly inconsequential and that you have in fact ironically formed opinions of FN from a professional news source, but your health care mortality assertion is proven wrong by your own research, and you still reply to me in gusto and essentially call me an idiot?

Wow.

It takes a special kind of person to do that. Someone like this:

Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics.

Funny how that picture looks exactly how I imagined you'd look. You talk a lot but all you say is that the source is "debatable", then you turn to a personal insult, typical sign of weakness. You went over the top with this childish post, at least it shows how scared you are when FACTS are pulled right in front of your face.

My last reply to you, I'm gonna get back to the sports, I'll save my political discussions when I go back to University to speak to educated individuals.

[poochiecollins]

Way to ruin a thread with politics. Lets get back to soccer yea?

Okay, what about South Africa aborting that one ref's children and denying him health care?

[poochiecollins]

Funny how that picture looks exactly how I imagined you'd look.

you turn to a personal insult, typical sign of weakness.

Self-owned :-)

You went over the top with this childish post,

My deep, thorough post is "childish"? I think you're not too familiar with the meaning of "childish," sir.

at least it shows how scared you are when FACTS are pulled right in front of your face.

You mean the "facts" I went over and you ignored?

My last reply to you, I'm gonna get back to the sports,

Translation: "I'm going to move on to avoid bringing further attention to the fact I got owned."

I'll save my time when I go back to University to speakto educated individuals.

What southern-U.S. community college would this be?

Seriously, you think if this exchange were shown to strangers, where they would see my attention to detail verses what almost entirely consisted of ad hominem for you, most of them would side with you? You're apparently not even smart enough to recognize the irony in following the description of the satirical Ferrous Cranus description in this very next reply of yours.

[JOHON8]

^^ Why are you still arguing? show me the facts son, I showed you a link all you are doing is fighting like a baby.

Facts don't = "debatable", facts are facts. I showed something for my argument all you are doing is blabbering like a fool and overusing vocabulary to seek respect. You obviously don't know how to debate which = you obviously don't have a strong educational background.

My only mistake is replying to you the 2nd time, until you show something for your mouth take care buddy.