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  • gopolks
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-16-12
    • 791

    #1
    If USA and Portugal finish same points and goal difference
    Who goes through?

    Same question for USA Versus Ghana?
  • Mase of Base
    SBR MVP
    • 07-24-12
    • 3622

    #2
    With Ghana they'd qualify even with an inferior goal diff as they beat them.

    For Portugal if Total goals for, against and goal diff are the same and the sides drew in their group game I believe they have a good old fashioned coin toss but I'm not 100% sure on that (so this would happen if Portugal beat Ghana 2-1 and the USA lose 4-0 to Germany in no other situation can there be a coin toss as someone would of scored more goals).
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    • gopolks
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-16-12
      • 791

      #3
      Thanks for the info

      come on usa!!
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      • tb1984
        SBR MVP
        • 09-11-08
        • 3112

        #4
        http://sports.stackexchange.com/questions/4881/fifa-world-cup-2014-tie-breaker-rules-between-the-teams-concerned

        The ranking of each team in each group shall be determined as follows:

        a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
        b) goal difference in all group matches;
        c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.

        If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings shall be determined as follows:
        d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
        e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
        f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
        g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.
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        • jazzdrum78
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-19-13
          • 479

          #5
          Originally posted by Mase of Base
          With Ghana they'd qualify even with an inferior goal diff as they beat them.

          For Portugal if Total goals for, against and goal diff are the same and the sides drew in their group game I believe they have a good old fashioned coin toss but I'm not 100% sure on that (so this would happen if Portugal beat Ghana 2-1 and the USA lose 4-0 to Germany in no other situation can there be a coin toss as someone would of scored more goals).
          Your 1st sentence is completely wrong.
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          • gopolks
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-16-12
            • 791

            #6
            Thanks for the updated info.
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            • WildCelticsFan
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-19-14
              • 5420

              #7
              if Ghana wins by 2 and Germany wins by 1, or Germany wins by 2 and Ghana by 1, Ghana advances.
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              • Mase of Base
                SBR MVP
                • 07-24-12
                • 3622

                #8
                Originally posted by jazzdrum78
                Your 1st sentence is completely wrong.
                Edit*

                Guess it is GD, thought it was h2h.
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                • gopolks
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-16-12
                  • 791

                  #9
                  If the usa and Ghana finishes on same points, same goal difference, same amount of goals scored and goals conceded, then the states go through, correct?
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                  • WildCelticsFan
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-19-14
                    • 5420

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gopolks
                    If the usa and Ghana finishes on same points, same goal difference, same amount of goals scored and goals conceded, then the states go through, correct?
                    yep, but betting Ghana to advance at 6 to 1 right now looks tasty
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                    • jazzdrum78
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 10-19-13
                      • 479

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WildCelticsFan
                      if Ghana wins by 2 and Germany wins by 1, or Germany wins by 2 and Ghana by 1, Ghana advances.
                      Yes, but don't forget if Germany wins 1-0 and Ghana wins 2-1, Ghana goes not US.
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                      • jazzdrum78
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 10-19-13
                        • 479

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mase of Base
                        Edit*

                        Guess it is GD, thought it was h2h.
                        It's a stupid system; it should be H2H when two teams tie
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                        • WildCelticsFan
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-19-14
                          • 5420

                          #13
                          amazing Ghana has a chance even after to losing to usa lmao
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                          • jazzdrum78
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 10-19-13
                            • 479

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WildCelticsFan
                            amazing Ghana has a chance even after to losing to usa lmao
                            It is why Portugal will beat Ghana and make it all meaningless.
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                            • WildCelticsFan
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-19-14
                              • 5420

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jazzdrum78
                              It is why Portugal will beat Ghana and make it all meaningless.
                              I think Ghana actually wins, showing how they played vs Germany has me likeing them a lot. Portugal hasn't looks as good as Ghana, I honestly think Ghana 3-1 (and I took USA/tie today). Thursday's gonna be interesting
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                              • frugalgambler
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-30-13
                                • 3418

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jazzdrum78
                                It's a stupid system; it should be H2H when two teams tie
                                They want to make the last matches as meaningful as possible. If the first tie-breaker were h2h, USA would have qualified already.
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                                • bruins35
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-19-11
                                  • 4011

                                  #17
                                  Usa !
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