1. #84876
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288


  2. #84877
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    That's hawt.

    I fukked up and missed Ohio in the UPSET Basket. They are trailing 24-27 in the 4th let's hope they lose...lol.



  3. #84878
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288


  4. #84879
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484


  5. #84880
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    That's hawt.

    I fukked up and missed Ohio in the UPSET Basket. They are trailing 24-27 in the 4th let's hope they lose...lol.



  6. #84881
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund through 629 plays...

    904 14-Sep ATL/WASH UNDER 10.5 (+100) -1
    908 MIL/STL UNDER 7.5 (+100) 1
    916 TOR +234 -1
    Sat -1
    Weeks 1-5 -1.32
    Weeks 6-10 -1.23
    Weeks 11-15 -4.9
    Weeks 16-20 6.19
    Week 21 4.49
    Week 22 0.58
    Week 23 -10.25
    Week 24 -0.17
    Mon 1.6
    Tue 0.97
    Wed 3.91
    Thu 3.14
    Fri -3
    Total -0.99

    Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian RL Fund through 110 plays...

    926 10-Sep BAL +1.5 (+200) -1
    922 14-Sep KC +1.5 (+195) -1
    Week 25 -2
    Weeks 1-5 -4.92
    Weeks 6-10 -4.59
    Weeks 11-15 4.86
    Weeks 16-20 -4.55
    Week 21 -1.13
    Week 22 3.21
    Week 23 -5.85
    Week 24 -1.13
    Total -16.1

    Here's the Contrarian Fund chart...




  7. #84882
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288

    Whatever she won: She deserves it


    Points Awarded:

    KVB gave DiggityDaggityDo 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  8. #84883
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has picked up...

    974 15-Sep TEX +185




  9. #84884
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Here's the NFL I picked up earlier...

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Picked up a couple of NFL plays so far...

    272 Wash +5 (-105)

    270 MIA +19 (-110)

    283 NO/LAR OVER 52 (-108)
    ...


  10. #84885
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has added...

    955 15-Sep MIL +129
    961 MIA +147




  11. #84886
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    The KVB MLB Contrarian RL Fund has picked up...

    972 15-Sep KC +1.5 (+140)




  12. #84887
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post

  13. #84888
    turtledoves
    turtledoves's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-27-17
    Posts: 3,398
    Betpoints: 4603

    looking at oakland

  14. #84889
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Went ahead and picked up...

    282 OAKLAND +265

    And opened a 4 piock open parlay with OAK +10.5 (-204) as the opener.

    Go Raiduhhhs!!!

    282 - NFLFootball
    Oakland Raiders Moneyline+265 for Game


    Oakland Raiders Spread +10-204Buying 4 Pts for Game



    Bills and Niners 2-0, crazy world.


  15. #84890
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Quote Originally Posted by turtledoves View Post
    looking at oakland
    lol, was making those buys when you posted.

    It's a gamble, so don't go big, but I say go for it as it goes against so many different market metrics it's ridiculous.

    Those are the extremes to fade in the NFL.


  16. #84891
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    If my NFL plays go in the hole, I might go ahead and track them all.

    I like to show how in order to win over time, many strategies have to endure shakeouts or down and sideways markets.

    I think I've shown in MLB just what that can look like, including shakeouts. Most don't realize what I really mean when I talk about patience, discipline and money management.

    To many those are buzzwords, but to me, it's the essence of success.


  17. #84892
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    If you look carefully, you'll see it.

    But it goes by quick...



    Did you see it? That ass?

    Did you see that ass ^^^^?

  18. #84893
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    NCAAF Lines coming out, going need to get ready for the early bullets to fly...


  19. #84894
    turtledoves
    turtledoves's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-27-17
    Posts: 3,398
    Betpoints: 4603

    missed oak, going for a bears over 37.5

  20. #84895
    turtledoves
    turtledoves's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-27-17
    Posts: 3,398
    Betpoints: 4603

    the faster the fall, the faster the rise

  21. #84896
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    If you look carefully, you'll see it.

    But it goes by quick...



    Did you see it? That ass?

    Did you see that ass ^^^^?

  22. #84897
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288

    I picked up Oakland earlier in the week.

    +7.5

    Let's cash this shit, Boyz.


  23. #84898
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Raiders took the lead early, of course.

    Seriously thinking about another LIVE trading buy back Fund. I do this, but rarely post it.

    You know how I hate to lead early, that's because I can identify a certain subset of plays that are doomed and the probability of being doomed actually, somewhat is a function of how much and how fast the team leads early.

    I've mentioned a metric concerning comebacks. I win some, I lose some, as always.

    It gets more difficult as the season progresses the opens up early again in the playoffs, only to get difficult again. The playoffs is like a mini season but the first few weeks of the season are by far the most predictable.

    You can measure it, to an certain extent, and that's why I say it's not what they bring, it's how the bring it.

    Left or right?


  24. #84899
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Left or right?

    This is tough.

    I guess I will take left and you can have right.

    Then maybe later we will swap.

  25. #84900
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Good look there, DDD.

    The left is clearly the aggressive one, with that forward knee and hands to the head.

    Speaking of head, I bet that left one will go right to it.

    I wonder if they do amazon style...


  26. #84901
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288

    4 unanswered TDs.

    JFC


  27. #84902
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484


  28. #84903
    DiggityDaggityDo
    DiggityDaggityDo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-30-08
    Posts: 120,022
    Betpoints: 34288


  29. #84904
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484


  30. #84905
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    The KVB NCAAF Visiting Dog Fund has picked up...

    339 21-Sep W MICHIGAN +5.5 (-110)

    I also picked up +5 (-105) in the low juice side.




  31. #84906
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund through 632 plays...

    955 15-Sep MIL +129 1.29
    961 MIA +147 -1
    974 TEX +185 -1
    Sun -0.71
    Weeks 1-5 -1.32
    Weeks 6-10 -1.23
    Weeks 11-15 -4.9
    Weeks 16-20 6.19
    Week 21 4.49
    Week 22 0.58
    Week 23 -10.25
    Week 24 -0.17
    Mon 1.6
    Tue 0.97
    Wed 3.91
    Thu 3.14
    Fri -3
    Sat -1
    Total -1.7

    Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian RL Fund through 111 plays...

    926 10-Sep BAL +1.5 (+200) -1
    922 14-Sep KC +1.5 (+195) -1
    972 15-Sep KC +1.5 (+140) -1
    Week 25 -3
    Weeks 1-5 -4.92
    Weeks 6-10 -4.59
    Weeks 11-15 4.86
    Weeks 16-20 -4.55
    Week 21 -1.13
    Week 22 3.21
    Week 23 -5.85
    Week 24 -1.13
    Total -17.1

    Not much of a turn around here this season for the RL Fund.


  32. #84907
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    Here come some NCAAF results...


  33. #84908
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    The KVB NCAAF Totals Fund was 2-2 or -.1 units in week 3 and here it is with links to every play and a crude closing line comparison...


    1 Unit Closing Beat BTC
    Record Date NCAAF Totals Fund per bet Line Closer? Average
    136 0-1 29-Aug G TECH/CLEMSON UNDER 61.5 (-105) -1 60.5 Y 1
    158 0-2 30-Aug PURDUE/NEVADA UNDER 58.5 (-105) -1 58.5 PUSH 0
    181 0-3 31-Aug SC/NC OVER 63 (-105) -1 62 N -1
    216 0-3-1 1-Sep HOU/OK UNDER 80 (-105) 0 80.5 N -0.5
    312 1-3-1 7-Sep ARMY/MICH UNDER 48 (-105) 0.95 48 PUSH 0
    376 1-4-1 NEVADA/OREGON UNDER 61.5 (-105) -1 62 N -0.5
    392 2-4-1 ORE ST/HAWAII UNDER 77.5 (-105) 0.95 78 N -0.5
    106 2-5-1 13-Sep KANSAS/BC UNDER 51 (-105) -1 51 PUSH 0
    108 3-5-1 WASH ST/HOU UNDER 74.5 (-105) 0.95 74 Y 0.5
    128 4-5-1 14-Sep SDSU/N MEX ST UNDER 51 (-105) 0.95 51 PUSH 0
    138 4-6-1 ALABAMA/SC UNDER 61.5 (-105) -1 59.5 Y 2
    4-6-1 Total -2.2 3-4-4 0.091
    Not too worried here.

    This is last year's chart, which saw little time in the negative, so I'm not surprised there's an early season pullback, especially in week 1...




  34. #84909
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    The KVB NCAAF ATS/ML Fund was 3-3 also for -.1 units in week 3 and here's the summary with links to each play and a crude closing line comparison.

    Record Date NCAAF ATS/ML Fund 1 Unit Closing Beat BTC ATS
    ATS per bet Line Closer? Average
    141 1-0 29-Aug KENT ST +24.5 (-105) 0.95 24.5 PUSH 0
    144 1-1 BYU +6.5 (-105) -1 5 Y 1.5
    235 2-1 S DAKOTA ST +15.5 (-110) 0.91 14.5 Y 1
    150 2-2 30-Aug S FLORIDA +10.5 (-105) -1 10 Y 0.5
    161 3-2 31-Aug FAU +27.5 (-105) 0.95 28 N -0.5
    183 3-3 Duke +33.5 (-105) -1 33.5 PUSH 0
    204 3-4 PIT +2.5 (+100) -1 2.5 PUSH 0
    319 3-5 7-Sep WV +14 (-107) -1 13.5 Y 0.5
    334 3-6 CLEMSON -16.5 (-105) -1 16 N -0.5
    349 4-6 SDSU +9 (-105) 0.95 7.5 Y 1.5
    360 4-7 FAU +10.5 (-102) -1 13.5 N -3
    364 4-8 KANSAS -7 (-110) -1 7 PUSH 0
    389 4-8-1 MINNESOTA -3 (-110) 0 3 PUSH 0
    110 4-9-1 14-Sep INDIANA +18 (-105) -1 17.5 Y 0.5
    114 5-9-1 WV +7 (-105) 0.95 7 PUSH 0
    116 6-9-1 TEMPLE +7 (-105) 0.95 5 Y 2
    121 7-9-1 E MICHIGAN +7 (+100) 1 7 PUSH 0
    150 7-10-1 TULSA +14 (-103) -1 14 PUSH 0
    164 7-11-1 BGSU +12 (-105) -1 12.5 N -0.5
    7-11-1 Total -4.34 7-4-8 0.157895

    We're starting to get enough instances to make a chart for this year but note that at the 19th play last year, this Fund was -5.24 units (that is the 20th point on the chart because point 1 is 0 for illustrative purposes...




  35. #84910
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 84,049
    Betpoints: 8484

    The KVB NCAAF UPSET Basket was 4-2 for week 3, but the record matters little as this is a moneyline fund, so it had 6 plays for +2.7 units.

    Here's the summary with links to each play and a crude closing line comparison...

    Date NCAAF UPSET Basket 1 Unit Closing Beat BTC ML
    per bet Line Closer? Average
    133 29-Aug UCLA +140 -1 116 Y 0.25
    137 FL INT +135 -1 128 Y 0.07
    147 30-Aug UTAH ST +150 -1 174 N -0.24
    175 31-Aug MISSISSIPPI +145 -1 139 Y 0.06
    193 SMU +140 1.4 105 Y 0.35
    281 ILLINOIS ST +155 -1 220 N -0.65
    305 7-Sep OHIO +160 -1 161 N -0.01
    317 SYRACUSE +115 -1 102 Y 0.13
    343 ARKANSAS ST +115 1.15 -106 Y 0.21
    355 N TEXAS +160 -1 152 Y 0.08
    357 BYU +145 1.45 134 Y 0.11
    385 STANFORD +135 -1 146 N -0.11
    401 KENNESAW ST -110 -1 165 N -0.75
    409 S ILLINOIS +145 1.45 190 N -0.45
    103 13-Sep NC +150 -1 132 Y 0.18
    125 14-Sep AIR FORCE +155 1.55 130 Y 0.25
    133 AKRON +140 -1 119 Y 0.21
    153 IOWA -125 0.8 -123 N -0.02
    167 S MISS +130 1.3 130 PUSH 0.00
    185 TCU +105 1.05 -155 Y 0.60
    Total -1.85 12-7-1 0.014


    If we remove those three added market games of Illinois St on Aug. 31st and Kennesaw and S Illinois on Sep 7th then we have a closing line average of .125.


First ... 2423242424252426242724282429 ... Last
Top