TeaBagger Shoots & Kills Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

[nasaki]

R.I.P

God Bless

http://www.wbur.org/npr/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

[THEGREAT30]

stupid republicans and teabaggers, modern day KKK

[Turd Ferguson]

I live right on the border of her and Congressman Grijalva's districts, and they have both been receiving threats for a long time. Her office has been vandalized as well.

The question now is should the people who have been stoking the fire in an area so full of gun fetishists be considered terrorists?

[guitarjosh]

The article says nothing of political affiliation, it only says the suspect is in his late teens or early 20s.

[Hotdiggity11]

Angle: I feel that the Second Amendment is the right to keep and bear arms for our citizenry. This not for someone who's in the military. This not for law enforcement. This is for us. And in fact when you read that Constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. This is for us when our government becomes tyrannical...
Manders: If we needed it at any time in history, it might be right now.
Angle: Well it's to defend ourselves. And you know, I'm hoping that we're not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.






Might be time to stop shit like this.

[guitarjosh]

Angle: I feel that the Second Amendment is the right to keep and bear arms for our citizenry. This not for someone who's in the military. This not for law enforcement. This is for us. And in fact when you read that Constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. This is for us when our government becomes tyrannical...
Manders: If we needed it at any time in history, it might be right now.
Angle: Well it's to defend ourselves. And you know, I'm hoping that we're not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.






Might be time to stop shit like this.

Stop it how?

[Hotdiggity11]

Stop it how?

Making laws against insinuations of armed insurrection/revolt/etc.

[Turd Ferguson]

Stop it how?

How about Gitmo? After all, that's where terrorists belong right?

[Turd Ferguson]

Just heard she is still alive and in surgery.

Mongoliod Beck zombies can't even use the guns that they spend all their time fantasizing about.

[The Madcap]

Since when in the hell are 20 year olds watching Glenn Beck?

I sense undertones of something deeper in play here.

[Turd Ferguson]

Since when in the hell are 20 year olds watching Glenn Beck?

I sense undertones of something deeper in play here.

I live here and the wingers are wingers pretty early.

I've heard plenty of twentysomethings talk about communism,gov't takeovers, "having to pay for queers to get married" etc. The media entertainers wo are fueling this should bear some responsibility. They go home to thei mansions and laugh about what they are doing, but people actually think that communism and gov't takeovers are happening.

One other angle is the cartels though. She has a border district.

[The Madcap]

I live here and the wingers are wingers pretty early.

I've heard plenty of twentysomethings talk about communism,gov't takeovers, "having to pay for queers to get married" etc. The media entertainers wo are fueling this should bear some responsibility. They go home to thei mansions and laugh about what they are doing, but people actually think that communism and gov't takeovers are happening.

One other angle is the cartels though. She has a border district.

I'm disappointed the armed bystander in the crowd that shot back didn't take this S.O.B out.


Responsibility? You don't strike me as one of the "video games are too violent" people.

You can't blame pundits for this any more than you can blame rap music for gang violence. If people take shit too seriously to the point they start killing folks it's solely on them.

[Andy117]

She's not dead. Do they really know what this guy's motivation was.

[Turd Ferguson]

I'm disappointed the armed bystander in the crowd that shot back didn't take this S.O.B out.


Responsibility? You don't strike me as one of the "video games are too violent" people.

You can't blame pundits for this any more than you can blame rap music for gang violence. If people take shit too seriously to the point they start killing folks it's solely on them.

Rap music comes out of the gang culture. People thinking Obama is going to take their guns away(a great cause for hysteria in AZ) comes from thousands of hours of carefully crafted rhetoric.

You're right, I don't give a shit about violent video games, and I'm not in favor of censoring Beck or anyone else. It seems obvious that it needs to be brought to some of our dimmer-bulbed citizens' attention that it is entertainment.

[The Madcap]

Rap music comes out of the gang culture. People thinking Obama is going to take their guns away(a great cause for hysteria in AZ) comes from thousands of hours of carefully crafted rhetoric.

You're right, I don't give a shit about violent video games, and I'm not in favor of censoring Beck or anyone else. It seems obvious that it needs to be brought to some of our dimmer-bulbed citizens' attention that it is entertainment.

Rap music wasn't always "gangsta." But I know what you're saying. The cycle seems to have gotten stuck in a narrow groove.

Well I can't speak for the people of Arizona, but around here there's major concern that there are plans in the works to take away our guns. And why shouldn't they think that? The U.S. government and the Supreme Court are becoming increasingly open to adopting the policies of foreign nations with zero regard for the Constitution.

Just because stripping our gun rights is an untenable position at the moment doesn't mean it will be in ten years. Clinton couldn't get health care reform passed. But Obama did. With a bill that was crafted under the table years in the making. Is it unreasonable for Americans to think the same tactics might also be applied with respect to gun rights?

[muldoon]

No indication the guy was a devout tea partier or anything else. Obviously a nutcase, but the fact that the politician he targeted happened to be on a controversial "hit" list, will change the aggressive nature of politics in the short term.

[guitarjosh]

She's not dead. Do they really know what this guy's motivation was.

No, but the left is trying to turn this into Reichstag anyway.

[Turd Ferguson]

Rap music wasn't always "gangsta." But I know what you're saying. The cycle seems to have gotten stuck in a narrow groove.

Well I can't speak for the people of Arizona, but around here there's major concern that there are plans in the works to take away our guns. And why shouldn't they think that? The U.S. government and the Supreme Court are becoming increasingly open to adopting the policies of foreign nations with zero regard for the Constitution.

Just because stripping our gun rights is an untenable position at the moment doesn't mean it will be in ten years. Clinton couldn't get health care reform passed. But Obama did. With a bill that was crafted under the table years in the making. Is it unreasonable for Americans to think the same tactics might also be applied with respect to gun rights?

The only legislation Obama has signed dealing with the issue expanded gun rights. This incident will bring out the gun control advocates for sure though. Probably a crackdown on militia types as well.

I'm actually heavily on the side of personal protection. Like Travis Bickle said, there's a lot of scum out there. I freaked out when I heard the story because it hits close to home, I like Giffords, and I was at the end of a sleep deprived 600 mile jaunt when it broke. Plus I sharted real bad and had to deal with it while going down the big hill into Salt Lake from Park City.

[Turd Ferguson]

No, but the left is trying to turn this into Reichstag anyway.

Yeah they should just brush it off. Not like it was a big deal or anything.

[guitarjosh]

Yeah they should just brush it off. Not like it was a big deal or anything.

Nice straw man Turd. I never said brush it off, I said the left is trying to use this to attack their political adversaries and advance their political agenda, just like the Nazis did after Reichstag.

[The Madcap]

The only legislation Obama has signed dealing with the issue expanded gun rights. This incident will bring out the gun control advocates for sure though. Probably a crackdown on militia types as well.

I'm actually heavily on the side of personal protection. Like Travis Bickle said, there's a lot of scum out there. I freaked out when I heard the story because it hits close to home, I like Giffords, and I was at the end of a sleep deprived 600 mile jaunt when it broke. Plus I sharted real bad and had to deal with it while going down the big hill into Salt Lake from Park City.

You lost the big gamble?



Tough one brother.

[Turd Ferguson]

I said the left is trying to use this to attack their political adversaries and advance their political agenda, just like the Nazis did after Reichstag.

Nice straw man.

[Optional]

Rap music comes out of the gang culture.

I thought Deborah Harry and Malcolm Maclaren were the original source of rap. Not really gangster types.

[muldoon]

Nice straw man Turd. I never said brush it off, I said the left is trying to use this to attack their political adversaries and advance their political agenda, just like the Nazis did after Reichstag.

And the right is different somehow?

When one side posts a distasteful graphic with targets over politicians names, and uses gun imagery non stop, you don't think it's just a bit easy for people when one of those pols gets gunned down???

[Chimneyfish]

Amazing how people started giving explanations of his motives and political affiliations before his name was even released or anyone knew anything about him.

http://twitter.com/caitieparker

[guitarjosh]

And the right is different somehow?

When one side posts a distasteful graphic with targets over politicians names, and uses gun imagery non stop, you don't think it's just a bit easy for people when one of those pols gets gunned down???

The left would do that whether gun imagery was used or not. Remember when there was a plane flown into a gov't building in Texas a few months back? Like clockwork, the left was out there screaming that it was a right winger before any facts were released, just like in this case.

By the way, there are some reports that the man who killed those people today was in fact a liberal.

[Turd Ferguson]

I thought Deborah Harry and Malcolm Maclaren were the original source of rap. Not really gangster types.

HIP-HOP NEWS spreads like any other mainstream NEWS in America. The garbage that's unfit to print has now floated on websites and blogs like sh*t. For example a rapper working in the community gets obscured while if that same rapper robbed a gas station he'd get top coverage and be label a "rapper" while getting his upcoming or current music somewhat put on blast, regardless of its quality which of course is subjective like any other art. RAP sites and blogs are mimicking the New York POST.

Chuck D

[Turd Ferguson]

By the way, there are some reports that the man who killed those people today was in fact a liberal.

Of course...

Actually all I can find out about the guy's thoughts are something about starting his own currency. I'm sure the next few days more will come out, but initial reports point to crazy(Data saying he's a "leftist" doesn't count).

[rocky502]

Way to jump to conclusions on multiple levels. This is a twitter feed from someone who actually knows the guy:
"A 22-year-old woman in Arizona, Caitie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as "left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as having a lot of friends "until he got alcohol poisoning in '06" and dropped out of school. "Mainly loner very philosophical."

Some of his readings would actually suggest a he could be radical lefty. I will reserve judgement until some solid evidence comes out. Sorry to disaapoint you. I know how much you were praying this guy was a Tea Party member

[The Madcap]

"When the hippies start getting violent."

That's what the Lama told me when I asked him "At what point should we start worrying?"

[BigdaddyQH]

Nasaki, you are such a f**king idiot. You do not even know what happened. The good congresswoman is NOT dead. It is morons like you that spread false rumors. The trouble with people like you is that none of you know what the f**k you are talking about. You morons on the left will blame the Right Wingers, just like those Liberal assholes who blamed Palin., The morons on the Right will blame the Liberals, because the suspect is a long hair with a problem. People, butt the hell out before you make further fools out of yourselves. When the evidence is in, and the other suspects (yes there is more than one suspect) are arrested, you will find out the truth. Until then, you guys will have to settle for the fact that you know absolutely nothing about this.

[muldoon]

Sad that people are more worried about which side of the political aisle will get hurt.

[rocky502]

Sad that people are more worried about which side of the political aisle will get hurt.

Ummm, didn't you start a thread implying a Sarah Palin map could have had something to do with this? What was your intent with the thread YOU started? Completely non partisan I'm sure.

[muldoon]

Ummm, didn't you start a thread implying a Sarah Palin map could have had something to do with this? What was your intent with the thread YOU started? Completely non partisan I'm sure.

Nope - I'm quite partisan on some issues. But it was incredibly distasteful when she posted her "hit list" or whatever you'd like to call it. The fact that one of her 20 "targets" was shot in a short time after was down right eerie.

[nasaki]

the guy is a gun toting NRA tea bagger and bigpussyqh sucks donkey dick