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  • PAULYPOKER
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    US looking to privatize the war effort in Afghan.hiring mercenaries/ legal hit men...
    Erik Prince offers Western mercenaries in Afghanistan

    Tue Aug 8, 2017 5:9PM


    Erik Prince, the founder of the private military company Blackwater, now called Academi.

    US military contractor Erik Prince has advised the administration of President Donald Trump to deploy Western mercenaries to Afghanistan to save both manpower and money.


    Prince, who founded the notorious private military company Blackwater USA, now called Academi, has proposed a two-year plan for about 5,000 professional killers and under 100 aircraft, bringing the total cost of the failing US war to less than $10 billion a year, according to documents seen by the Financial Times.


    Prince, a former Navy Seal, said on current spending, the Afghan military campaign would cost the US $45 billion this year and $50 billion the next.


    “We’re spending too much in Afghanistan and it’s making the insurgency worse, through corruption and leakage to the Taliban,” he told the newspaper.


    “I then heard about a big troop surge [proposal] and I thought that was a dumb idea . . . I’m going to contract everything; I’m going to get down to some spending sanity,” he said.


    Blackwater received widespread notoriety in 2007 when a group of its mercenaries killed 14 Iraqi civilians and wounded 18 others using gunfire and grenades at a busy Baghdad intersection.


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    Prince, who expects to present his revised and updated plan to the White House, is critical of Washington’s approach to Afghanistan, whose US-led NATO mission has rotated through 17 military commanders in 16 years.


    Prince proposes that the mercenaries be paid $500-$600 a day and would be drawn not only from the US, but also from the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Australia and South Africa.


    The proposal was reportedly offered at the request of Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist, and Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and senior adviser.




    White House chief strategist Steve Bannon (L) and Jared Kushner, son-in-law and senior adviser to US President Donald Trump, attend a cabinet meeting at the White House in Washington, DC, on June 12, 2017. (Photo by AFP)

    The US currently has about 8,400 troops in Afghanistan, with about another 5,000 troops from NATO allies. US Defense Secretary James Mattis has proposed adding around 4,000 more.


    But Trump has been skeptical about a troop surge in Afghanistan. He wants to save both manpower and money and avoid getting sucked into the sort of wars he promised the electorate he would avoid.


    US officials said last week that Trump's doubts about the war in Afghanistan has led to a delay in completing a new strategy in the war-torn country.




    PressTV-‘We are losing in Afghanistan’: Trump

    Trump has said in a recent meeting with his national security team that the United States is “losing” in Afghanistan, according to a new report.


    During a July 19 meeting in the White House, Trump suggested that US Army General John Nicholson, commander of American forces in Afghanistan, should be fired for not winning the war, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.


    The war in Afghanistan is the longest in US history with a cost of about $1 trillion. More than 2,400 Americans have died and another 20,000 have been wounded in the country since the invasion in 2001.


    Afghanistan is still suffering from insecurity and violence years after the United States and its allies invaded the country as part of Washington’s so-called war on terror. The military invasion removed the Taliban from power, but their militancy continues to this day.

    Blackwater founder offers mercs in Afghanistan

    'US to escalate Afghan war by disguise'
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  • thomorino
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    This not news, the US has been using private contractors to keep casaulty totals down for decades.
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    • PAULYPOKER
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      #3
      Some of those contractors are known terrorist groups,fact...
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      • PAULYPOKER
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        Photos: Getty Images (1) Illustration: Elise Swain for The Intercept

        INTERCEPTED PODCAST: ATLAS GOLFED — U.S.-BACKED THINK TANKS TARGET LATIN AMERICA


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        DONALD TRUMP IS on his version of a staycation, chilling at his golf course resort in New Jersey and watching FOX News or tweeting nonstop — when he’s not golfing or threatening nuclear war. This week on Intercepted: As Erik Prince peddles his plan to privatize the war in Afghanistan on major news networks, Jeremy gives an update on the aftermath of Blackwater’s 2007 massacre of Iraqi civilians at Nisour Square in Baghdad.

        Intercept reporter Lee Fang lays out how a network of libertarian think tanks called the Atlas Network is insidiously shaping ideological and political infrastructure across the world, especially in Latin America. As the Trump administration has ratcheted up its hostile rhetoric toward Venezuela, we speak with attorney and former Hugo Chavez adviser Eva Golinger about the country’s political turmoil. And we hear Claudia Lizardo of the Caracas-based band, La Pequeña Revancha, talk about her music and hopes for Venezuela.
        Transcript coming soon.
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        • jtoler
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          Erik Prince brother of Sec. of Education Betsy DeVos, the fascist really know how to keep it in the family and cover all areas of control as theyve been doing for hundreds of years.
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          • themike78
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            Why don't you ever talk about sports? This is a gambling forum right? What's up with your weird facsination with posting b.s news stories from fake news outlets?
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            • sweethook
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              rich get richer by killing , thats a fact
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              • jtoler
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                #8
                Originally posted by themike78
                Why don't you ever talk about sports? This is a gambling forum right? What's up with your weird facsination with posting b.s news stories from fake news outlets?
                Dont be a sheepie Mikey and bury ur head in the ground when confronted with truth.
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                • PAULYPOKER
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sweethook
                  rich get richer by killing , thats a fact
                  And the rich cause every bit of poverty and hunger in the world..

                  They would go ballistic if they could not enjoy seeing billions suffer........
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                  • dlowilly
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                    And the rich cause every bit of poverty and hunger in the world..

                    They would go ballistic if they could not enjoy seeing billions suffer........
                    Retarded statement IMO

                    Where are these rich people you speak of that get off on seeing impoverished starving people? Why do you think someone being rich causes others not to be rich, like wealth is a bowl of mashed potatoes on the table?
                    Last edited by dlowilly; 08-09-17, 11:49 PM.
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                    • PAULYPOKER
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                      Originally posted by dlowilly
                      Retarded statement IMO

                      Where are these rich people you speak of that get off on seeing impoverished starving people? Why do you think someone being rich causes others not to be rich, like wealth is a bowl of mashed potatoes on the table?
                      Famous truthful quotations from presidents a

                      “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.“The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.





                      Book for dummies:Why the 0.1% are the 0.1
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                      • khicks26
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                        • dlowilly
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                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                          Famous truthful quotations from presidents a

                          “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.“The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.





                          Book for dummies:Why the 0.1% are the 0.1
                          I'm no fan of the Rothschilds but exploiting populations to make money because they don't fully understand where their mortgage payment is going is a far cry from causing poverty and hunger and going ballistic if people aren't suffering. If anything he is saying he wants them to succeed so he can extract more money from a robust economy.
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                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                            I'm no fan of the Rothschilds but exploiting populations to make money because they don't fully understand where their mortgage payment is going is a far cry from causing poverty and hunger and going ballistic if people aren't suffering. If anything he is saying he wants them to succeed so he can extract more money from a robust economy.
                            well then this is you.........

                            mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.
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                            • dlowilly
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                              well then this is you.........
                              I'm not denying the exploitation and the shadiness, it's just a far cry from your statement, "And the rich cause every bit of poverty and hunger in the world..They would go ballistic if they could not enjoy seeing billions suffer."
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                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                You see with this capital system there is only room for a few winners..

                                The richer you get the more poorer everyone below you will be....

                                Simple arithmetic really........
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                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                  for 1 winner there are 9 losers........
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                                  • dlowilly
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                    You see with this capital system there is only room for a few winners..

                                    The richer you get the more poorer everyone below you will be....

                                    Simple arithmetic really........
                                    Nope, ur dead wrong about that. It isn't a zero sum game. Just because capitalism allows a talented, driven minority to rise way to the top doesn't mean that kept everyone else down, it doesn't work that way
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                                    • dlowilly
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                      for 1 winner there are 9 losers........
                                      Loser only relative to the one winner, and that winner didn't cause them to "lose"
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                                      • jtoler
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                        for 1 winner there are 9 losers........
                                        Almost sounds like fractional reserve banking.
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                                        • PAULYPOKER
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                                          Originally posted by dlowilly
                                          Nope, ur dead wrong about that. It isn't a zero sum game. Just because capitalism allows a talented, driven minority to rise way to the top doesn't mean that kept everyone else down, it doesn't work that way
                                          If that were true
                                          There would be no 1% out of the 1%
                                          and
                                          1% out of the 100%
                                          and 14% of the working class out of the100% below poverty level...

                                          for all the low paying jobs people fight for them as well....

                                          Only the sociopaths are at the very top.......

                                          Unless they are "new money" like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet.......

                                          The POTUS is a full blown sociopath and Trump is nowhere near the top.........

                                          The income gap would not be growing like wild forest fire
                                          Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 08-11-17, 08:35 PM.
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                                            Knowing who us responsible for US debt for dum


                                            Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                            National debt has increased with every president from Reagan to Obama except Clinton......................

                                            National Debt Graph by President






                                            In 1981, the supply siders commandeered the Reagan Presidency and employed their Voodoo economics, as Bush senior had called it in 1980. He was saying that tax cuts would not increase government revenues. As you can see above, the Voodoo failed just as Bush predicted, and the supply siders turned a 32-year winning streak into a debt disaster that continues to this day. For 20-years, under Reagan and the Bushes, the national debt increased compared to GDP every single year. In most other years it decreased. Twenty years in a row can't be just an accident, but to understand you need to learn the voodoo strategy. (Why Debt / GDP ?)
                                            What's causing today's huge deficits? Deficit basics. Top 4 deficit causes.
                                            Bush senior fought against it, so the Republicans didn't support him and he lost to Clinton, who put an end to it supply-side economics. G. W. Bush brought it back full strength, with V.P. Cheney saying "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." Currently supply siders are in full control of the Republican party.


                                            The green line shows what would have happened to the national debt if Reagan and the Bushes had balanced their budgets as Reagan claimed he would. G.W. Bush, in all modesty, claimed he would "retire nearly $1 trillion in debt over the next four years. This will be the largest debt reduction ever achieved by any nation at any time."
                                            Conservatives are quite embarrassed by this performance, so they have invented a cover story: The Democratic Congress did it. Nice try. But for 12 of the 20 years the Congress was not Democratic. Also, presidents can veto, and when it was Democratic, Congress passed smaller budgets on average than the Republican Presidents asked for. Presidents propose the budget, and they have the most influence. Check it out.
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                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                              Trump Tax Plan : Nominated Post

                                              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                              Here is a lesson for all....This is Tax/Capitalistic greed plans for dummies...
                                              here's Trump's/Obama's/Bush's/Clinton's/Bush's/Reagan's/Carter's/Ford's/Nixon's
                                              LBJ's and AlLL administration's tax plans.............

                                              As long as Corporations&Bankers are buying ALL administrations and congresses.
                                              The tax plans will ALWAYS,COMPLETELY benefit the Corporations&Bankers while
                                              enslaving the common man through taxation and outrageous loan debt & interest...

                                              Want proof?
                                              Used car loans terms can last as long as 84 months or 8 fukkin years!!!
                                              20 years ago you would be lucky if you could get a used car loan longer than
                                              36 months or 3 fukkin years!
                                              Student loan debt has increased over 500% since 1999! While wages remained stagnant or decreased for 90+% of the working force..

                                              Tax plans defend&monopolize corporate capitalists&bankers GREED interests and nothing else.........................

                                              Then you have lies being told that lowering corporate tax rates will bring jobs and
                                              wage increases to the US working force..
                                              They say corporations will then stop hiding profits offshore.....Lol..........
                                              The key word here is PROFITS...
                                              What makes you think that greedy corporation are going pay ANY of their PROFITS to the US working force?
                                              Their keeping their profits offshore for PROFIT and only PROFIT.................
                                              Decrease their Taxes and they will bring their money back into US economy.
                                              The truth is They'll put their money in their own economy for profit and only profit..
                                              The fact is, it does matter where corporate profits are being stored as the central bank is worldly.........

                                              You see,the worldly banks&corporations are tag teaming your asses..
                                              I could go on and on forever outing the infinity of fukksticks in the American citizen's asses..














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                                                #24
                                                All people in power abuse it, misuse it,and...

                                                Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                All people in power abuse it, misuse it,and especially fight dirty with no moral fiber in order to keep it...

                                                How did Trump(supposedly the most powerful man in the world) achieve his new found power?

                                                Capitalism is an all out crush&destroy everything in your path war, from start to finish..

                                                Somebody is always waiting for the top dog to slip up so they can slit his/her throat with no moral regard...

                                                Either fight like a rabid dog for everything you accomplished and want or surrender and bow to the master on the rung above you..

                                                No matter what rung of the ladder of taking your "share" you're on, there are many climbing below you eager to take your place, only they're not as sociopathic as the people above you..

                                                The higher you climb, the more ruthless of a sociopath you must become....


                                                So lets stop with the he said she said politics and get real for a minute.....

                                                Want to get to the top?
                                                Order the book: How to become a Capitalistic Sociopath for Dummies......

                                                Just do not get caught before you're rooted, (since Sociopaths who do not make it go to prison).
                                                Once rooted, be sure to lobby from local government all the way to congress into writing your new laws that'll crush all your competitors until there are none.

                                                Out of all the mental illnesses,a sociopath is the only one you can create as your own.
                                                You will never see a sociopath seeking mental health treatment..
                                                Could you imagine a psychiatrist telling a sociopath he/she is a sociopath to his/her face?







                                                Lol.......
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                                                • kingdom
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                                                  dlow takes another 'L'. for a guy that loves to argue, you are apparently not very good at it. maybe you should try sports sometimes dorko.
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                                                  • dlowilly
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                                                    LOL kingdumb commentating from his jester's box
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                                                    • dlowilly
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                                                      LOL just read this recent comedy from Paulypoker in this thread

                                                      Graphs with what if lines? LOL

                                                      All successful people are sociopaths except Bill Gates and Warren Buffet LOL (because they are lefties I guess)

                                                      When did the discussion change to the positives and negatives of Capitalism? You stated "And the rich cause every bit of poverty and hunger in the world..They would go ballistic if they could not enjoy seeing billions suffer........"

                                                      Well, no capitalist is making money if the consumers a capitalistic society depends upon are in poverty and starving, and ain't no problem with starving in this country, since those below this highly subjective "poverty" line are part of an obesity epidemic in this country.

                                                      Now, should I pull a Pauly and link the thread in which you just exposed yourself as either extremely ignorant or extremely dishonest?

                                                      In the future Pauly, please don't mistake my loss of interest in a particular thread full of your comedy to be an admission of any sort of concession to your "points"
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                                                      • PAULYPOKER
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                                                        Lol.............

                                                        Nice try flipper.........
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                                                        • dlowilly
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                          Lol.............

                                                          Nice try flipper.........
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                                                          • PAULYPOKER
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                                                            Lol, the way you are trolling me now just cements my case..

                                                            I'll let you have last word.......

                                                            Go ahead,bury me,flipper.........
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                                                              Trump drooling over Afghanistan’s $3tn wealth




                                                              As US President Donald Trump prepares to announce his administration’s strategy for the stalemate in Afghanistan later on Monday, the South Asian country’s $3 trillion wealth of natural resources has taken the center of attention.



                                                              While the US Department of Defense’s estimates have put Afghanistan’s untapped wealth of gold, copper, uranium and other rare-earth minerals at well around $1 trillion, Afghan officials’ latest geological studies hint at figures three times larger.



                                                              The number can probably explain Washington’s willingness to continue the war in Afghanistan, which has dragged on for 16 years and has cost the US economy more than $714 billion dollars, according to the Pentagon's Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) July report.







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                                                                Russia is laughing at us. They said fuk it after 10 years. Here we are almost 8 years longer and no further since day one.

                                                                Trump throws more of our boys in harms way. Obama tried a surge at the calling of his generals, didn't work.

                                                                More proof Trump is insane. Doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

                                                                If countries want the mineral rights in Afghanistan, negotiate the terms. Trump's the great negotiator.
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                                                                  'Afghanistan war cash cow for Pentagon'

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                                                                    Here Are the Hard Numbers on the War in Afghanistan Trump Left Out of His Speech




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                                                                      #35
                                                                      You act as if Trump has a choice. The decisions are made by the corporations that actually rule the world. Trump and every other president are nothing but pawns. Politicians are nothing but paid corporate shills. Who gives a fukk if "we" are there forever. Tax dollars and public debt clear the way for entrance into this opportunity for vast profits. It's not a war on terrorism. It's securitizing a region so rich companies can get richer.
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