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    secretstash
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    ronpaul2008 and d2bets are brothers and they are at the 5-10 together right now

    ronpaul2008 and d2bets are brothers and they are at the 5-10 together right now

    is this cheating and against sbr rules ?

    secretstash: ron funny thing ur here with ur brother playing and im a cheater?
    secretstash: i will be sure to let lou know
    rickysteve: THEY COULD COMBINE CARDS AND STILL HAVE NO EDGE
    d2bets: so what we cant ever play at the same table
    d2bets: ?
    secretstash: ur not supposed to no
    trytrytry: who is d2bets brother?
    d2bets: really?
    ronpaul2008: vegas lets you
    d2bets: never been told that
    secretstash: but lou would ban u both
    ronpaul2008: we were just there and did
    d2bets: we play at the same table in tourneys it seems like all the time
    trytrytry: ronpaul and d2bets are brother
    secretstash: yes try
    d2bets: yes
    trytrytry: ok..r they in the same room?
    ronpaul2008: no
    secretstash: i dunno man but its sketchy at best
    trytrytry: ok thanks.
    d2bets: we dont live together, no, obviously not
    trytrytry: hey we are all brothers here...
    ronpaul2008: thats absolutely true
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    secretstash: jus saying its against sbr rules
    secretstash: i know yall two aint cheating but sbr doesnt allow it
    secretstash: ask chemicalbrother and his bro
    secretstash: they both got banned lost every pt they had
    ronpaul2008: show me the rule
    d2bets: what is the rule?
    secretstash: ask playersonly
    playersonly69: what rule
    secretstash: players d2bets and ronpaul2008 are brothers
    secretstash: are they allowed to both play same room?
    rickysteve: STFU SECREST YOU CHEATING POS
    ronpaul2008: its not a secret
    playersonly69: probably
    playersonly69: is that dsethi?
    secretstash: ricky quit spamming
    secretstash: i dunno who it is
    d2bets: we've played against each other lots, happens in tourneys all the time
    secretstash: but they are brothers. and sbr bans people for this
    secretstash: i will just ask lou if its ok. brb
    playersonly69: are they winning though?
    d2bets: is there a specified relationship, i mean, what about friends? cousins too? in-laws?
    ronpaul2008: go ask, fine
    playersonly69: but no it shouldnt be allowed, but these are just points
    playersonly69: and you could quit now i guess
    d2bets: we are not at the same address or even the same city
    secretstash: its doesnt matter
    playersonly69: you must be up around 750 points, qwuit now
    secretstash: either was downsouth and his father
    secretstash: either was chemicalbrother and his brother
    ronpaul2008: im down o nthe day
    secretstash: both banned and all pts lost
    playersonly69: trust me though that Roxy DEFINITELY was cheating today
    secretstash: ok players. well this is obvious in front of u and u ignore it?
    playersonly69: i am going to research the other players if i get a chance
    secretstash: u got their usernames?
    playersonly69: well i dont know that they are even brothers
    d2bets: who should i ask? i don't wana to do anything wrong. never ocurred to me.
    secretstash: post them i will resaerch pt history for sure
    d2bets: we are
    d2bets: everyone knows
    secretstash: sorry d2 but itsnot allowed
    d2bets: we've been to bash
    d2bets: i think we played at final table at bash
    playersonly69: it will take me a while to get the exact poster names
    secretstash: ? y
    playersonly69: is this Skinsraj damnit
    rickysteve: IGNORE SECREST HES TRYINGTO PROJECT HIS OWN CHEATING ON YOU
    playersonly69: because i have been to bashes too
    ronpaul2008: i won 2 years ago and came in 2nd three years ago
    secretstash: ricky ur unreal man. u been cheating for weeks
    d2bets: the problem is we both play a lot of 5/10 and there isnt that much action so we end up playing somet
    playersonly69: and i have met Dsethi and Skins
    ronpaul2008: easy to get my name
    secretstash: d2bets sorry man but explain it to lou
    secretstash: he will be here shortly im sure
    rickysteve: KILL YOURSELF SECREST
    secretstash: who is secrest?
    secretstash: ryan?
    d2bets: i have nothing to explain, but yeah, if someone says specifically we cant play at any table then i..
    playersonly69: ricky, you do seem to be Dsethi based on your comments to me a few weeks ago
    secretstash: u see how this dude is flaming/bashing me here players?
    playersonly69: yes
    d2bets: ...wont, but sometimes i dont even notice
    secretstash: pretty sure ricky is in on the scamming somehow.
    playersonly69: how do everyone know that these guys are brothers?
    d2bets: what about toruneys though?
    secretstash: ron told me lol what an idiot
    d2bets: not like theres an option
    playersonly69: so Ron is the brother?
    secretstash: yes
    ronpaul2008: everyone knows, weve been to bashes together
    ronpaul2008: whoopie
    secretstash: obviously not ron
    playersonly69: are you Indian?
    secretstash: trytrytry reported u earlier he must not have known
    secretstash: he pm'd me and asked if i thought u were cheating
    secretstash: i said probably not but sbr doesnt allow it
    secretstash: :S
    ronpaul2008: got a link to this rule?
    secretstash: i will link u to the 2 people that got banned recently for it
    playersonly69: so who are we talking about again? Steve and Ron paul?
    playersonly69: and what does d2bets have to do with this?
    secretstash: ronpaul2008 and d2bets
    secretstash: brothers
    d2bets: i am ron2008's brother
    d2bets: everyone knows that, i thought
    playersonly69: i thought that i was your brother
    secretstash: lol
    d2bets: hehe
    secretstash: players make a thread bout these two and sbr will answer right away
    playersonly69: Mom cheated on dad then
    secretstash: then we will know if its cheating
    secretstash: or allowed?
    playersonly69: i had better not make the thread, i got into trouble for my sportsoptions thread earlier
    secretstash: cuz u posted an rx advertiser here
    d2bets: actually i usually try to avoid playing him cuz i dont wanna take his chips...
    playersonly69: but they certainly are sharing cards
    secretstash: its not allowed
    d2bets: but sometimes its the only action around
    secretstash: see and THAT is why its not allowed d2bets
    d2bets: why
    secretstash: u avoiding his action ISNT fair
    secretstash: its cheating
    d2bets: uhhhhh
    d2bets: i mean i usually try not to sit at his tables
    secretstash: well u did today
    playersonly69: TRUST ME that they are also sharing cards
    secretstash: im sure they in yahoo im players
    playersonly69: the MAIN thing in collusions would be...........
    ronpaul2008: we dont collude at all
    playersonly69: lets say that I had 7-10 in this hand but folded
    d2bets: i hate to admit bu wouldnt even know how to collude
    d2bets: im not shapr like that
    secretstash: yall iming eachtoher back n forth ur cards
    d2bets: sharp
    playersonly69: i told my brother so he knows that you probably dont have a 10\
    playersonly69: by the way, i did have 7-10 last hand
    ronpaul2008: anybody could collude, how does not being related prevent that ?
    playersonly69: true

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    unreal

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    they are soft playing eachother and "staying out of hands vs eachother" and PlayersOnly even said they prolly im eachother on yahoo ....wtf?

    -stash

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    Tebow bankrupts SBRJohn...

    Makes me lose every roll at the crap table to make up for it...

    Now this...

    Fukk Jesus

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    Really not sure why this is a problem? Anybody on sbr could be colluding at any time (and probably are) if there was no specific odd hands then dont see the point in complaining. Not like a tourney where you could chip dump.

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    If there is a rule I never heard of it, but everyone knows we are brothers and we never hid it. Won't do it if it's against the rules.

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    42E437 6/22/2011
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    What's your point? I was out of points and he loaned me and I paid him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    What's your point? I was out of points and he loaned me and I paid him back.
    Lol stash on a mission for some reason. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    If there is a rule I never heard of it, but everyone knows we are brothers and we never hid it. Won't do it if it's against the rules.
    people have been banned for this recently actually. and all pts lost.

    gl with ur case



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    Drama

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    RonPaul buried


    Don't fuk with Stash
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    wow grown men telling on others over fukkkin free points???? haha unreal what this world is coming to....grow up man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod1010 View Post
    RonPaul buried


    Don't fuk with Stash
    Unless you steal his points and screw him over like carseller. He's ok with that for some reason

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    Sbr John is at the table now and d2bets left. who knows what will happen or what the rules are .. we shall see

    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    42E437 6/22/2011
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    Haha you busted us. We transferred points 6+ months ago so he could get a pizza. And then I bought him a pizza and he paid me back in points. Call the DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    Sbr John is at the table now and d2bets left. who knows what will happen or what the rules are .. we shall see

    -stash
    The rules are people cannot play from the same location, control multiple accounts, etc... Same as at any other online poker site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    The rules are people cannot play from the same location, control multiple accounts, etc... Same as at any other online poker site.
    so ur saying downsouth controlled multiple accounts?

    just asking not accusing

    i just dont understand how being at same table with ur brother is allowed.. seems like semi cheating

    -stash

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    They have almost 40,000 combined points...

    Evidence mounting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    so ur saying downsouth controlled multiple accounts?

    just asking no accusing

    -stash
    Where did I mention any poster specifically? You said you didn't know what the rules are so I explained them to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    They have almost 40,000 combined points... Evidence mounting...
    i hope they havent cheated.. but chip dumping rollovers may come into play here. i surely hope not.

    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Where did I mention any poster specifically? You said you didn't know what the rules are so I explained them to you.
    ok ur right i apologize

    i assumed too much here and im sorry bout this comment.

    i just think downsouth is a good guy and i cant imagine him cheating but he was banned for near same thing

    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    The rules are people cannot play from the same location, control multiple accounts, etc... Same as at any other online poker site.
    can they sit at same table in a cash game and possibly share hole cards? or even soft play eachother.. seems unfair if u ask me.

    i know they are both solid normally.. just asking cuz i think it aint right.

    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    The rules are people cannot play from the same location, control multiple accounts, etc... Same as at any other online poker site.
    That's a given. What are your standards about collusion though? I don't know anything about DB or RP but every person related to each other that I've played against at a live table have softplayed. It's less so than with friends because sibling rivalry sometimes kicks in but it's still there. As long as it's out in the open i don't care because I can just adjust but if they've been sitting at the same table without informing people there's a problem. At a minimum they should advise the table as soon as they sit togeather. Granted lots of softplaying goes on at SBR tables but you should really get some guidelines down.

    Besides the softplaying I haven't seen much collusion TBH except at 1 final table I was at but I thought it was too funny/pathetic to bother dealing with.

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    Stash,

    Can you elaborate on the Downsouth story to the best of your knowledgeor post a link?

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    secret stash u are a fukking bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    secret stash u are a fukking bitch
    what did i do to u man? u their cousin or wtf?




    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    can they sit at same table in a cash game and possibly share hole cards? or even soft play eachother.. seems unfair if u ask me.

    i know they are both solid normally.. just asking cuz i think it aint right.

    -stash
    You and I could do the same thing... as could anyone on here. Don't need to be relatives to share hole cards and chat on IM during games.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmarket View Post

    That's a given. What are your standards about collusion though? I don't know anything about DB or RP but every person related to each other that I've played against at a live table have softplayed. It's less so than with friends because sibling rivalry sometimes kicks in but it's still there. As long as it's out in the open i don't care because I can just adjust but if they've been sitting at the same table without informing people there's a problem. At a minimum they should advise the table as soon as they sit togeather. Granted lots of softplaying goes on at SBR tables but you should really get some guidelines down.

    Besides the softplaying I haven't seen much collusion TBH except at 1 final table I was at but I thought it was too funny/pathetic to bother dealing with.
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    how does sbr know that you are not cheating with someone? man ur a fukkin cry baby...they are free points u dipshit. did they steal ur pts? why do u care? dont play with them if they make u so uncomfortable..dont be a fukkin snitch.....damn kids crying about free points unfukkin real

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    Quote Originally Posted by romecloneout View Post
    how does sbr know that you are not cheating with someone? man ur a fukkin cry baby...they are free points u dipshit. did they steal ur pts? why do u care? dont play with them if they make u so uncomfortable..dont be a fukkin snitch.....damn kids crying about free points unfukkin real
    ur a non pro so i understand ur small man syndrome.



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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    ur a non pro so i understand ur small man syndrome.



    -stash
    He makes a good point. Weren't you disconnecting against the other guy?
    Last edited by zsr; 01-08-12 at 10:13 PM.

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    lol d2bets back to the game.. classic.

    come watch

    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsr View Post
    He makes a good point. Weren't you disconnecting against the other guy? You were cheating too.
    i disconnected one time on sbr ever . and i told ricky i was sorry for him crying about it.

    SBR can confirm I have 2 disconnects left so evidently it was a one time internet mess up not a common one

    I actually wanted to raise him and got disconnected. total mishap. trust me rickysteve is a HUGE donkey and I see him down every time and win

    I had him beat that hand as well

    -stash

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    Do they ever play HU together with not just massive pots, where chip dumps may occur?

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