Is this guy a Hall of Famer?

[bigboydan]

Without revealing the name just yet, I am going to give you some numbers of a player not in the Hall, and you guys tell me if he deserves to be there.
330 plus homers
Almost 1500 RBI
.290 lifetime average
2 batting titles
1 MVP Award
.345 in a World Series
3 Silver Slugger Awards
3 Gold Gloves
Possessed one of the top two throwing arms in the game while he was playing
88 plus RBI seasons
20 plus homers 9 times
150 plus career stolen bases

[Mudcat]

Those are similar numbers to Jim Rice who isn't in the Hall. Of course that leads to the question of, should Rice be there? A lot of people think he should.

I'm not clear on this line: 88 plus RBI seasons

In any case, based on that info I think my vote would be no. The numbers are very good but I'm not blown away.

Different HOF's set different standards and I kind of like how baseball is very tough (unlike hockey).

I would call that a great career and leave it at that.

[scottyy11]

hmm numbers don't look a whole lot better than a guy like cecil cooper , or harold baines so i gotta say no, got to think andre dawson is in front of this guy

[bigboydan]

it's not dawson or rice.

[scottyy11]

the dave parker or dwight evans? its amazing how many guys are just on the edge of the hof

[bigboydan]

your right it's dave parker.

[Mudcat]

Somewhere along the line, the topic changed from are these numbers good enough for the HOF? to guess the player.

Nice call scotty.

[Willie Bee]

This is why I hate looking just at numbers. Guys like Parker, Rice, Dawson and I'll throw one more name at you from a while back, Vada Pinson, are borderline players. For my money, they were all right there as far as being in the top 10% of their contemporaries that is my loose cutoff/criteria.

I would rank Parker behind Rice, behind Pinson, behind Dawson as far as that quartet that is not in the HOF.

[BAUS]

That career summary describes Larry Walker, but he isn't a HOFer.

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[Willie Bee]

Walker and Parker are two perfect comparisons from slightly different eras.

Another name to throw out there that should generate controversy is Albert Belle. That guy posted 10-yrs worth of really great numbers - better than Rice, Dawson, Pinson, Parker and Walker. He came off as an ass, putting it mildly. But he was a monster with a bat for a decade.

[BAUS]

Walker was a legitimate 5 tool player. Belle was not. But he did put up some numbers.

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