1/17/06 SBR upgrades and downgrades

**Illusion** · 01-18-06, 02:30 AM

1/18

BetOnStars downgraded from D- to F+

**pags11** · 01-18-06, 04:04 AM

so F- is the lowest rating then?...when do you think mansion becomes an "A" book?...

**SBR_John** · 01-18-06, 11:15 AM

When will Mansion become an A rated sportsbook?

They are doing a fine job now. I would not think it would be too long if they maintain their current performance. In months I'd say 3 - 6 months. They are still rather new and A ratings are not given to books without track records but they are getting there.

**HAPPY BOY** · 01-18-06, 11:49 AM

what about First Fidelity having an A rating. Just requested my 4th payout via neteller (no fees) as opposed to cris who charged me 15.00 same withdrawl method. Although cris is also a good book I think Fidelity is way nicer on withdrawls. Taco had pointed out to me that a while back they were kept from an A upgrade due to some "aggresive sales methods" there all right in my book. A all the way.

**jumper** · 01-18-06, 12:14 PM

cris offers free $2500 neteller on fridays

**pags11** · 01-18-06, 04:24 PM

thanks for the response john..appreciate it...

**HAPPY BOY** · 01-18-06, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by jumper

cris offers free $2500 neteller on fridays

thanks for the 411, still FF offers FREE withrdrawl at all TIMES. Again ? aren't they rated as an A sports book by SBR. NOT that it makes a difference since Ill still continue to use them but it seems like there being held back for no reason. They are an A book and thats my opinion. So far they have shown no other rating to me, these guys parden the term SOLID. Love Cris but FF is still numero uno in my book.

**marc** · 01-18-06, 04:45 PM

Happy Boy,

How long have you been getting free withdrawals from FF. They used to give free with Neteller wihtdrawals all ther time. But then they switched to only 1 free withdrawal per month. When did they go back to offering free withdrawals all the time.

**HAPPY BOY** · 01-18-06, 04:51 PM

I really dont know, I think I made more than one withdrawl within last 30 days and both times was not charged. Im not 100% sure on free all the time. Im pretty shure that Iv'e drawn 2wce within 30 days and not been billed a fee. All I know is after dealing with a shit book like ESB FF is like a godsend. i only have had possitive experiences with FF. Cris has also paid but based on customer service and fees FF is a tad better just my opinion. Ill find out about there poilcy though and post what they tell me about withdrawl fees.

**JoshW** · 01-18-06, 05:28 PM

FF is free up to $5000 every thirty days. Is 4%!!! after that which is quite high, but I think offering such a large amount free is quite fair for the players they are targeting.

I like First Fidelity quite a bit. They have had some issues in the past on keeping bonuses of players who met or were close to rollover, agressive cold calling, and deceptive bonuses. I think all those things hold them back some, but they are starting to improve in those areas too. They also seem to work closely with SBR if there is a player issue, and I appreciate that.

**Illusion** · 01-19-06, 03:18 AM

1/18

BetOnStars downgraded from D- to F+ (Downgrade reversed to previous D-)