1. 10-16-20 09:42 AM #1
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    I miss the old days of baseball when we knew..

    Who all the starting pitchers for an entire series before the series. Sick of this bullpen crap.
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  2. 10-16-20 09:48 AM #2
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    good point
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  3. 10-16-20 09:50 AM #3
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    It’s terrible now

    All hrs too

    Balls juiced
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  4. 10-16-20 09:57 AM #4
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    yep starters used to go 8 inns. then a shutdown closer like m.rivera took over
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  5. 10-16-20 09:59 AM #5
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    I agree LB, changed for the worse.
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  6. 10-16-20 09:59 AM #6
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    Current puss y generation big part of this
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  7. 10-16-20 10:04 AM #7
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    I agree 100%, I could write pages about this. The front office has pitchers on pitch counts and players sit out for reasons that be unreasonable 30 years ago.....I don't even like the DH....it is,what it is .
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  8. 10-16-20 10:07 AM #8
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    Metrics. Sadly it’s here to stay.

    It helps some teams do more with less.
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  9. 10-16-20 10:23 AM #9
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    Teams from 70s and 80s would smoke these pussies today
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  10. 10-16-20 10:52 AM #10
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    Dodgers open -240 with Atlanta Undecided

    Books probably know it will be bullpen day with Tomlin opening, with even Wright maybe eating some innings after allowing 38 runs Wednesday.
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  11. 10-16-20 10:59 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Dodgers open -240 with Atlanta Undecided

    Books probably know it will be bullpen day with Tomlin opening, with even Wright maybe eating some innings after allowing 38 runs Wednesday.
    I think Braves could lay down here to get ready to win in 6
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  12. 10-16-20 11:18 AM #12
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    I keep saying....


    Sim sports are better!!! lol
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  13. 10-16-20 11:19 AM #13
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    Sims
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  14. 10-16-20 11:29 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Teams from 70s and 80s would smoke these pussies today

    No doubt

    Back when a 90 mph fastball was considered very fast and a slugger weighed 175 lbs

    Just think how badly the 86 Cardinals would eviscerate the Braves, Dodgers, Yankees, Astros of today.
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  15. 10-16-20 11:32 AM #15
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    No more heroes.
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  16. 10-16-20 11:34 AM #16
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    I miss rude collisions at the plate.. The game and players got soft..

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  17. 10-16-20 11:34 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    I think Braves could lay down here to get ready to win in 6
    Not literally "lay down" but content to line up Fried / Jethro Tull Games 6-7 on normal rest
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  18. 10-16-20 11:51 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    No doubt

    Back when a 90 mph fastball was considered very fast and a slugger weighed 175 lbs

    Just think how badly the 86 Cardinals would eviscerate the Braves, Dodgers, Yankees, Astros of today.
    The guns they use today are jacked

    Dudes throw the same heat. The old Juggs gun was/ is slower than modern radar, but today's heat is the same as yesterday's heat.

    The difference is today everyone comes in at 93-97 on the same plane, they don't pitch, move eye level, go inside or use off speed enough. Batters today are terrible batsman, yes they hit a lot of hrs, but they never get the runner over and make so many stupid unproductive outs it's annoying as hell.

    Those 80s Cardinals teams would win 115 games in today baseball. 70s Reds the same, late 80s Mets....all much superior in all facets of the game.

    Don't be fooled by a ESPN radar reading of 100, the guys back in the 80s did it too, every 4 days, for 8 or 9 innings a night.
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  19. 10-16-20 11:52 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    It’s terrible now

    All hrs too

    Balls juiced
    MLB 8X better in 70-80's
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  20. 10-16-20 11:56 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    The guns they use today are jacked

    Dudes throw the same heat. The old Juggs gun was/ is slower than modern radar, but today's heat is the same as yesterday's heat.

    The difference is today everyone comes in at 93-97 on the same plane, they don't pitch, move eye level, go inside or use off speed enough. Batters today are terrible batsman, yes they hit a lot of hrs, but they never get the runner over and make so many stupid unproductive outs it's annoying as hell.

    Those 80s Cardinals teams would win 115 games in today baseball. 70s Reds the same, late 80s Mets....all much superior in all facets of the game.

    Don't be fooled by a ESPN radar reading of 100, the guys back in the 80s did it too, every 4 days, for 8 or 9 innings a night.
    Spot on Minny. Mid eighty Cards would have Coleman leadoff, single, steal second , get moved over to third and then score on and out or a hit. 1-0 off the rip seemed like every game.
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  21. 10-16-20 11:57 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    The guns they use today are jacked

    Dudes throw the same heat. The old Juggs gun was/ is slower than modern radar, but today's heat is the same as yesterday's heat.

    The difference is today everyone comes in at 93-97 on the same plane, they don't pitch, move eye level, go inside or use off speed enough. Batters today are terrible batsman, yes they hit a lot of hrs, but they never get the runner over and make so many stupid unproductive outs it's annoying as hell.

    Those 80s Cardinals teams would win 115 games in today baseball. 70s Reds the same, late 80s Mets....all much superior in all facets of the game.

    Don't be fooled by a ESPN radar reading of 100, the guys back in the 80s did it too, every 4 days, for 8 or 9 innings a night.

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  22. 10-16-20 07:55 PM #22
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    Dumb ass Cash pulls snell and they allow v2 runs.
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  23. 10-16-20 07:56 PM #23
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    Dumb move Laker
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  24. 10-16-20 08:03 PM #24
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    Incredible but nothing new for these guys
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  25. 10-16-20 09:14 PM #25
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    Yeah I thought Cash pulled him a little too early. Not like he was being hit hard.

    Houston has all momentum, can’t really see Tampa winning tomorrow.
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  26. 10-16-20 09:56 PM #26
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    I don't miss it. Just bet the dog every game. No need to build models and stuff.
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  27. 10-16-20 10:13 PM #27
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    Paver that is a great strategy
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  28. 10-16-20 11:11 PM #28
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    One thing I hate about today's game is about 1/3 of the players wear a pound of jewelry around their neck.
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  29. 10-16-20 11:52 PM #29
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    relax, you will know all tuesday for world series, regular playoff schedule 2 off 3 off 2
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