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    Quote Originally Posted by stake1 View Post
    And the dominoes are now likely set to tumble:
    1. Implementation of a short season by MLB
    2. Some players choosing not to play.
    3. PA grievance
    4. Upcoming free agents get destroyed in market
    5. All major labor issues merely deferred to next spring.Mutually assured destruction.

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    mlb goes

    nhl goes

    nba goes

    see u in the fall for football

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    The owners should simply wait the players out this year, next year and thereafter; sooner or later, the players will miss those seven figures and will realize it beats selling cars or sweeping floors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bcatswin View Post
    Its absolute death for this industry to keep acting as it has been. Both sides. Were driving the bus straight off a cliff. How is this good for anyone involved? Covid 19 already presented a lose lose lose situation and weve somehow found a way to make it worse. Incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    The owners should simply wait the players out this year, next year and thereafter; sooner or later, the players will miss those seven figures and will realize it beats selling cars or sweeping floors.
    @sammyincharge

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    So they are playing now.

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    Lol

    This is funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Lol

    This is funny
    Actually your right it is a good laugh

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    Capping whirlwind day, MLB urges players to report by July 1. No matter how poorly Rob Manfred has performed, no matter how much blame fans and media have laid on owners for this interminable stalemate, it’s on players to move the boulder forward now.

    - Steve Greenberg
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    All the other non-American sports are fine and horse racing is fine this is embarrassing

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    They'll file a grievance or claim health & safety issues.

    Actually shocked owners proceeding w 48 games given they will lose money....maybe it's a bluff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    mill tell u how dominos will fall

    mlb goes

    nhl goes

    nba goes

    see u in the fall for football
    Maybe the minor league top prospects will be "scabs"? Otherwise? No baseball. Union will say unsafe work environment

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    Its sad the
    Whole
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Baseball is in serious trouble long term, it might fold and I hope so.
    When have you seen a monopoly fold ?
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    I have been following your thread and i agree they should hold off till next season on all sports my mom lives in pgh very conservative and lots of older people and she said the numbers of covid are on the rise again and i am in denver people walking around like nothing has happened no masks no social distancing etc. I think the smart thing to do wait till there a vaccine or the number drop to a low number closer to zero before they resume any of the seasons!! Sorry for the babble thought i would let u know enjoying the chat!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16johnnymac View Post
    I have been following your thread and i agree they should hold off till next season on all sports my mom lives in pgh very conservative and lots of older people and she said the numbers of covid are on the rise again and i am in denver people walking around like nothing has happened no masks no social distancing etc. I think the smart thing to do wait till there a vaccine or the number drop to a low number closer to zero before they resume any of the seasons!! Sorry for the babble thought i would let u know enjoying the chat!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveKerrsJunk View Post

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    All of the players across sports who don't want to play need to STFU.

    Stop whining and stay home if you're not up to it.
    Nobody is twisting your arm.

    Others will play and make their money.

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    This will be an opportunity for the minor league players to step up. Let all the "primadonna players" stay at home. Then see what happens this winter to all the free agents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    MLB had a chance to make the game better. It had a chance to unite the country. It had a chance to gain the attention of sports fans around the world.

    Instead, the players and owners got into a petty pissing match and did potential irreparable harm to a great sport.
    Exactly this

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    Baseball looks really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    All of the players across sports who don't want to play need to STFU.

    Stop whining and stay home if you're not up to it.
    Nobody is twisting your arm.

    Others will play and make their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chi_archie View Post
    they still play though, right?

    This way mlb players reserve the right to keep their grievences open and possibly get more $ down the road.

    play ball!!!!!

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    Its on.

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    Major League Baseball finally has a plan in place for the 2020 season. On Tuesday, the players union first agreed to a July 1 report date for Spring Training 2.0 as MLB seeks to begin a coronavirus-shortened 2020 season, according to various reports.

    ESPN’s Jeff Passan also reports the sides have reached an agreement on health and safety protocols for the 60-game season imposed by commissioner Rob Manfred on Monday. MLB had given the players union 24 hours to OK the so-called “operating manual” for 2020, which includes details on how the league plans to combat coronavirus spread. The sides went beyond the deadline, but finally came to agreement after months of stalemates.



    Agreeing to the health and safety protocols proved tougher than a report date since the world at large is still trying to figure that out and things are changing on a daily basis. However, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reported there were no major hold ups, which allowed an agreement to be reached Tuesday night.

    The commissioner-imposed season comes after the players union and owners couldn’t find common ground in a long back-and-forth of negotiations. The players ultimately rejected the final offer from owners, knowing that Manfred would institute a season of his liking.
    While money was the sticking point in negotiations, recent events have proven that baseball has more to worry about in its return. Last week, MLB closed all 30 spring training sites as reports of positive coronavirus tests among players and staff members totaled 40 people league-wide in a week.
    The Athletic’s Jayson Stark also reported a string of roster-related rules and important dates for fans to keep in mind.

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    1) Manfred must go.
    His ideas are beyond ludicrous.
    They make no sense.'

    2) In a 60 game season teams that have a strong front three rotation starters will dominate.
    Pay attention to teams with ace starters that eat up innings.
    Nats for instance, you can work Max, Stras, Corbin every fifth day in a sprint like 60 game season.
    You can work your horses in a short season, you can't send out your studs every fifth day in a full 162 game schedule.

    Long story short if you got starting pitching your'e in the hunt, if you don't you won't compete.
    Pitching wins, always has, always will.

    Here's a list of last season innings eaters.
    I moved some of the key free agents to their 2020 teams.
    The Phils may challenge the Nats now with a dependable Wheeler in the three spot of the rotation.
    Teams like my Royals will get buried because their staff ace (Keller or Junis) will get shelled.


    Name Team GS IP K/9 BB/9 ERA WAR
    Marcus Stroman - - - 32 184.1 7.76 2.83 3.22 3.9
    Homer Bailey - - - 31 163.1 8.21 2.92 4.57 2.9
    Tanner Roark - - - 31 165.1 8.6 2.78 4.35 1.9
    Mike Leake - - - 32 197 5.8 1.23 4.29 1
    Zack Greinke Astros 33 208.2 8.07 1.29 2.93 5.4
    Justin Verlander Astros 34 223 12.11 1.7 2.58 6.4
    Wade Miley Astros 33 167.1 7.53 3.28 3.98 2
    Brett Anderson Athletics 31 176 4.6 2.51 3.89 2
    Mike Fiers Athletics 33 184.2 6.14 2.58 3.9 1.7
    Mike Soroka Braves 29 174.2 7.32 2.11 2.68 4
    Max Fried Braves 30 165.2 9.4 2.55 4.02 3
    Julio Teheran Braves 33 174.2 8.35 4.28 3.81 1.6
    Jack Flaherty Cardinals 33 196.1 10.59 2.52 2.75 4.7
    Miles Mikolas Cardinals 32 184 7.04 1.57 4.16 2.5
    Adam Wainwright Cardinals 31 171.2 8.02 3.36 4.19 2.2
    Dakota Hudson Cardinals 32 174.2 7.01 4.43 3.35 1
    Kyle Hendricks Cubs 30 177 7.63 1.63 3.46 4.1
    Jose Quintana Cubs 31 171 8 2.42 4.68 3.5
    Jon Lester Cubs 31 171.2 8.65 2.73 4.46 2.8
    Yu Darvish Cubs 31 178.2 11.54 2.82 3.98 2.6
    Robbie Ray Diamondbacks 33 174.1 12.13 4.34 4.34 2.4
    Merrill Kelly Diamondbacks 32 183.1 7.76 2.8 4.42 2
    Madison Bumgarner Diamondbacks 34 207.2 8.8 1.86 3.9 3.2
    Walker Buehler Dodgers 30 182.1 10.61 1.83 3.26 5
    Hyun-Jin Ryu Dodgers 29 182.2 8.03 1.18 2.32 4.8
    Clayton Kershaw Dodgers 28 178.1 9.54 2.07 3.03 3.4
    Jeff Samardzija Giants 32 181.1 6.95 2.43 3.52 1.5
    Shane Bieber Indians 33 214.1 10.88 1.68 3.28 5.6
    Marco Gonzales Mariners 34 203 6.52 2.48 3.99 3.7
    Sandy Alcantara Marlins 32 197.1 6.89 3.69 3.88 2.3
    Jacob deGrom Mets 32 204 11.25 1.94 2.43 7
    Noah Syndergaard Mets 32 197.2 9.2 2.28 4.28 4.4
    Max Scherzer Nationals 27 172.1 12.69 1.72 2.92 6.5
    Stephen Strasburg Nationals 33 209 10.81 2.41 3.32 5.7
    Patrick Corbin Nationals 33 202 10.6 3.12 3.25 4.8
    Anibal Sanchez Nationals 30 166 7.27 3.14 3.85 2.5
    Joey Lucchesi Padres 30 163.2 8.69 3.08 4.18 2.1
    Zack Wheeler Phillies 31 195.1 8.98 2.3 3.96 4.7
    Aaron Nola Phillies 34 202.1 10.19 3.56 3.87 3.4
    Zach Eflin Phillies 28 163.1 7.11 2.64 4.13 1.5
    Joe Musgrove Pirates 31 170.1 8.3 2.06 4.44 3.3
    Lance Lynn Rangers 33 208.1 10.63 2.55 3.67 6.8
    Mike Minor Rangers 32 208.1 8.64 2.94 3.59 4.1
    Charlie Morton Rays 33 194.2 11.1 2.64 3.05 6.1
    Eduardo Rodriguez Red Sox 34 203.1 9.43 3.32 3.81 3.7
    Rick Porcello Red Sox 32 174.1 7.38 2.32 5.52 1.8
    Trevor Bauer Reds 34 213 10.69 3.46 4.48 3.3
    Sonny Gray Reds 31 175.1 10.52 3.49 2.87 4.4
    Luis Castillo Reds 32 190.2 10.67 3.73 3.4 4.1
    Anthony DeSclafani Reds 31 166.2 9.02 2.65 3.89 2.4
    German Marquez Rockies 28 174 9.05 1.81 4.76 3.4
    Brad Keller Royals 28 165.1 6.64 3.81 4.19 2.2
    Jakob Junis Royals 31 175.1 8.42 2.98 5.24 1.5
    Matthew Boyd Tigers 32 185.1 11.56 2.43 4.56 3.3
    Jose Berrios Twins 32 200.1 8.76 2.29 3.68 4.4
    Martin Perez Twins 29 165.1 7.35 3.65 5.12 1.9
    Lucas Giolito White Sox 29 176.2 11.62 2.9 3.41 5.1
    Reynaldo Lopez White Sox 33 184 8.27 3.18 5.38 2.3
    Ivan Nova White Sox 34 187 5.49 2.26 4.72 2
    Gerrit Cole Yankees 33 212.1 13.82 2.03 2.5 7.4
    Masahiro Tanaka Yankees 31 182 7.37 1.98 4.45 3.3
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    MLB is a joke

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    Owners love Manfred he got the big win last CBA

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    Nasher yes!!!

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    How many games out of 60 will Astros cheat in?

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    Did you guys see some of the rules they are implementing? DHs in every game (national and american league) and extra inning games will begin with a runner already on 2nd base. No fans at any of the ballparks.

    Stupid.

    I ain't going to watch or bet on any of this garbage

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