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  • Notown1
    SBR Rookie
    • 04-02-20
    • 28

    #1
    Nitrogensports posting lines on games they simulate themselves
    Bet a fifa2020 game thinking it was an esports league of some sort. Later i find out the game was setup directly by nitro its a cpu vs cpu matchup where we dont see the pregame settings they chose, adjustment of player ratings, difficulty setting, style of play etc. Basically they can set it up where they can name the score themselves depending on the score they need and they've had multiple fifa games like this with fairly high limits. Had i known this before betting it i obviously would not have bet it as i thought it was an esports league.
    How is a sportsbook allowed to do this? Its a clear conflict of interest and like i stated before they can change settings, style of play as well as player ratings pregame. They can simply fix the score for what they need. I have lost money betting alot of random stuff from darts to amateur soccer leagues but nothing has bothered me as much as this where its an outright scam run by the book where they can name the score of the game themselves pregame.

    Summary: nitrogensports allowing you to bet on games they control themselves and can make the score whatever they want depending on which side the money was bet on.
  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #2
    Originally posted by Notown1


    How is a sportsbook allowed to do this?

    CR aint called the 'Wild Wild West' for nuthing
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    • RudyRuetigger
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-24-10
      • 65084

      #3
      i warned about this days ago
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      • Sam Odom
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-30-05
        • 58063

        #4
        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger


        i warned about this days ago

        Nitro wasnt the 1st to think this up
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        • TommieGunshot
          SBR MVP
          • 03-27-12
          • 1604

          #5
          Sounds very similar to a slot machine, bettors typically don't know the settings when they play those and can definitely be rigged. Are sportsbooks able to offer those without a conflict of interest.
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          • Black Coffee
            SBR MVP
            • 05-04-19
            • 1187

            #6
            terrible
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            • Golden fleece
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-25-18
              • 858

              #7
              this is a great opportunity for us!!

              fade the public and WIN!

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              • Notown1
                SBR Rookie
                • 04-02-20
                • 28

                #8
                Mods move to sportsbook and industry subforum please. As a new user i did not realize there was a seperate subforum for this.
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                • cjwatsonfan32
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-24-11
                  • 1640

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Notown1
                  Mods move to sportsbook and industry subforum please. As a new user i did not realize there was a seperate subforum for this.

                  Go and check out three pages of threads. You’ll find a shit ton about coronavirus which should be salooned. This actually is a lot more relevant than half the shit here
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                  • Notown1
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 04-02-20
                    • 28

                    #10
                    They are still posting these sims and charging 45 cent vig on it. Its straight up robbery, i thought SBR was the industry watchdog how are they allowing something like this to continue without warning the book about it. The book has the power to directly influence the result depending on which side they need. Its blatant cheating
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      pass

                      only bet sims books do not control
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                      • TommieGunshot
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-27-12
                        • 1604

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Notown1
                        They are still posting these sims and charging 45 cent vig on it. Its straight up robbery, i thought SBR was the industry watchdog how are they allowing something like this to continue without warning the book about it. The book has the power to directly influence the result depending on which side they need. Its blatant cheating
                        What's your evidence that they are influencing the result depending on which side they want? They could just as easily be influencing the result in their casino games and sbr would never give a warning just because a sportsbook offers blackjack and roulette.
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                        • carolinakid
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-12-11
                          • 19106

                          #13
                          i would pass this too, imo be too easy to fix..
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                          • Notown1
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 04-02-20
                            • 28

                            #14
                            There running 4-5 games a day and getting plenty of action on these
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              So easy to rig though
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                              • raiders72001
                                Senior Member
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 11127

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                What's your evidence that they are influencing the result depending on which side they want? They could just as easily be influencing the result in their casino games and sbr would never give a warning just because a sportsbook offers blackjack and roulette.
                                Their casino is provably fair. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provably_fair

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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Just be careful betting this stuff have fun with it
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                                  • littlekona
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-19-15
                                    • 5242

                                    #18
                                    if you bet any SIM game ASK for a on demand pause of the live game if you suspect anything funny. This is only way to prove it is really live and not some recorded event that they are previously recorded and has results favoring book. I have not looked into nitrogen yet BUT will say that MyBookie, Bookmaker and Bovada all have complied and appear to be legit live SIM games played
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                                    • lonegambler23
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-22-16
                                      • 9760

                                      #19
                                      we need a notown sim bomber rn
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        USA books probably frustrated they cannot offer it

                                        I do not see it in PA, maybe NJ 1 book?
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                                        • biggie12
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-30-05
                                          • 13788

                                          #21
                                          why dont you guys get a new hobby for a few months. Read some books or better get go get laid.
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                                          • Notown1
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 04-02-20
                                            • 28

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by biggie12
                                            why dont you guys get a new hobby for a few months. Read some books or better get go get laid.
                                            Recommend me an open massage parlor. All the ones around me are closed
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                                            • trytrytry
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-13-06
                                              • 23649

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by littlekona
                                              if you bet any SIM game ASK for a on demand pause of the live game if you suspect anything funny. This is only way to prove it is really live and not some recorded event that they are previously recorded and has results favoring book. I have not looked into nitrogen yet BUT will say that MyBookie, Bookmaker and Bovada all have complied and appear to be legit live SIM games played
                                              how does that prove its live? could a person running the simulation for twitch not pause a taped game just as easy on request and turn it back on?
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                                              • biggie12
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-30-05
                                                • 13788

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Notown1
                                                Recommend me an open massage parlor. All the ones around me are closed
                                                use ur hand make a sock puppet. Get a girlfriend.
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                                                • littlekona
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-19-15
                                                  • 5242

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                  how does that prove its live? could a person running the simulation for twitch not pause a taped game just as easy on request and turn it back on?
                                                  if the game was pre recorded they would not be able to show the pause screen on demand. when you pause it, it shows the current scene in the background
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                                                  • clockwise1965
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-01-13
                                                    • 6753

                                                    #26
                                                    Conflict of interest.
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                                                    • Ant23
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 02-14-19
                                                      • 492

                                                      #27
                                                      HIGHWAY ROBBERY at its finest. Had a wager on GB/Pitt game 2 days ago that went 'offline' when it was looking like I had a real chance to hit a 2 teamer w/PITT and over 1st half. Pitt was in Red Zone as well when it went offline b/c I was watching the game and damn near threw the phone out of the window.
                                                      STAY AWAY......and this was at BOVADA so i'm not sure about the other books.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        Stay away from nitrogen it’s too easy to rig

                                                        No watchdogs
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                                                        • littlekona
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-19-15
                                                          • 5242

                                                          #29
                                                          ive seen or reviewed most every game and the 3 books bovada, bookmaker and mybookie have all been great very fair and if any issues due to tech or settings even refunded losers and paying winners. You will get a twitch lag at times. if you have a complaint send them a message in the chat ASAP. That said just have fun with it as it is a SIM game.

                                                          Also Ant if you want to free roll for risk free way to watch and win just do middles suing any of the books listed above in conjunction with fairlay via the App...that way even if you think its fixed it doesnt matter if it middles free money!
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                                                          • Ant23
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 02-14-19
                                                            • 492

                                                            #30
                                                            why didn't Bovada "pay" me for the parlay? I did get the wager amount back but not the presumed winnngs. Not good model w/0 oversight like JJ said. and yes I did send a message and still only got wager amount back
                                                            Sad times
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                                                            • littlekona
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-19-15
                                                              • 5242

                                                              #31
                                                              NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 1030am CT Kings@Grizzlies twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Kings -2 Grizzlies +2 +6
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 11am CT Titans@Raiders twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Titans -4.5 Raiders +4.5 +6
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 11am CT Titans@Raiders twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Over 46 Under 46 46.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 12pm CT Falcons@Buccaneers twitch.tv/livefootballsims Full Game Falcons PICK Bucs PICK +1.5
                                                              NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 1230pm CT Pelicans@Thunder twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Pelicans +6 Thunder -6 -8.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 1pm CT Texans@Seahawks twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Texans +4 Seahawks -4 -4
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 1pm CT Texans@Seahawks twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Over 48 Under 48 48.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 1pm CT Ravens@Patriots twitch.tv/betonlinemadden Full Game Ravens +1.5 Patriots -1.5 -3.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 1pm CT Ravens@Patriots twitch.tv/betonlinemadden Full Game Over 45.5 Under 45.5 45.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 2pm CT Bears@49ers twitch.tv/primetimeaction Full Game Bears +7 49ers -7 -6.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 2pm CT Bears@49ers twitch.tv/primetimeaction Full Game Over 39 Under 39 37.5
                                                              NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 230pm CT Bulls@Timberwolves twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Bulls +7 Timberwolves -7 -9.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 3pm CT Texans@Seahawks twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Patriots -3.5 Vikings +3.5 4.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 3pm CT Texans@Seahawks twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Over 45 Under 45 47.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 3pm CT Saints@Vikings twitch.tv/livefootballsims Full Game Saints -1 Vikings +1 -1.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4pm CT Broncos@Ravens twitch.tv/primetimeaction Full Game Broncos +10 Ravens -10 -8
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4pm CT Broncos@Ravens twitch.tv/primetimeaction Full Game Over 44.5 Under 44.5 46.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 4pm CT Seahawks@Texans twitch.tv/betonlinemadden Full Game Seahawks +1 Texans -1 -2.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 4pm CT Seahawks@Texans twitch.tv/betonlinemadden Full Game Over 48.5 Under 48.5 50.5
                                                              NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 430pm CT Mavericks@Warriors twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Mavericks +10 Warriors -10 -13.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 5pm CT Saints@Chiefs twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Saints +1 Chiefs -1 -2.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 5pm CT Saints@Chiefs twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Over 52.5 Under 52.5 52.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 6pm CT Seahawks@Packers twitch.tv/livefootballsims Full Game Seahawks PICK Packers PICK +2.5
                                                              NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 630pm CT Lakers@Clippers twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Lakers -3.5 Clippers +3.5 +5.5
                                                              NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 630pm CT Lakers@Clippers twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Over 222 Under 222 NA
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 7pm CT Packers@Cowboys twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Packers +2.5 Cowboys -2.5 -3.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 7pm CT Packers@Cowboys twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Over 48 Under 48 49.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 8pm CT Vikings@Seahawks twitch.tv/primetimeaction Full Game Vikings +2.5 Seahawks -2.5 -4
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 8pm CT Vikings@Seahawks twitch.tv/primetimeaction Full Game Over 46 Under 46 46.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 8pm CT Rams@Raiders twitch.tv/betonlinemadden Full Game Rams -3 Raiders +3 +3
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 8pm CT Rams@Raiders twitch.tv/betonlinemadden Full Game Over 48 Under 48 46.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 9pm CT Bengals@Redskins twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Bengals Redskins 2.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 4-5 9pm CT Bengals@Redskins twitch.tv/mybookiemadden Full Game Over 41 Under 41 42.5
                                                              NFL Madden SIM 9pm CT Ravens@Steelers twitch.tv/livefootballsims Full Game Ravens -3.5 Steelers +3.5 +4.5


                                                              Today's With Lines and see some pretty good middle's
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                                                              • carolinakid
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-12-11
                                                                • 19106

                                                                #32
                                                                sorry guys i just dont trust the games at all, just like most of the table games imo they are fixed.
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                                                                • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 03-11-11
                                                                  • 29299

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ant23
                                                                  HIGHWAY ROBBERY at its finest. Had a wager on GB/Pitt game 2 days ago that went 'offline' when it was looking like I had a real chance to hit a 2 teamer w/PITT and over 1st half. Pitt was in Red Zone as well when it went offline b/c I was watching the game and damn near threw the phone out of the window.
                                                                  STAY AWAY......and this was at BOVADA so i'm not sure about the other books.
                                                                  Originally posted by Ant23
                                                                  why didn't Bovada "pay" me for the parlay? I did get the wager amount back but not the presumed winnngs. Not good model w/0 oversight like JJ said. and yes I did send a message and still only got wager amount back
                                                                  Sad times
                                                                  All this guy does is whine and complain...
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                                                                  • trytrytry
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-13-06
                                                                    • 23649

                                                                    #34
                                                                    little? which way you playing this over under today on the made up lline??

                                                                    NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 630pm CT Lakers@Clippers twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Over 222 Under 222
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                                                                    • littlekona
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-19-15
                                                                      • 5242

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                                      little? which way you playing this over under today on the made up lline??

                                                                      NBA 2k20 SIM 4-5 630pm CT Lakers@Clippers twitch.tv/mybookienba2k Full Game Over 222 Under 222
                                                                      that's a good game I would take clippers and the points as contrarian play as Lakers Ive seen blow so many teams out big +7 @ my bookie its gone up or if you like Lakers fairlay has it at -3.5....I have no input to share on the O/U
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