[sam9ball]

11/21	USA CENTRAL
1	mpaschal34	3050	16
2	Cross	2670	21
3	oiler	2330	15
4	playersonly69	2025	11
5	ronpaul2008	1915	12
6	AutoDonk	1850	11
7	MrKLC	1795	15
8	stuler	1775	12
9	Xstream	1750	12
10	lobo369	1740	12
11	b1slickguy	1710	12
12	pokerpro44	1455	13
13	cabo	1230	12
14	unlearn	1165	10
15	4uk4life	1160	9
16	d2bets	1065	11
17	BestPlay2day	1030	13
18	mikejamm	1025	6
19	Carseller4	880	8
20	slanina	845	8
21	chico2663	715	7
22	hawkeye16	650	6
23	BigDaddy	625	3
24	Skookum	575	6
25	brock	465	3
26	ChiefWahoo	425	5
27	mayberry	335	3
28	Ballerholic	300	1
29	bigdawgdfs	300	1
30	clayfro	300	1
31	sam9ball	275	2
32	otters27	200	1
33	peacebyinches	165	2
34	cjwatsonfan32	135	2
35	iamamonkey	125	1
36	msutter	125	1
37	TheMoneyShot	125	1
38	jtoler	175	3
39	secretstash	115	2
40	MangasColoradas	75	1
41	nickelchip2	40	1
42
	USA WEST
1	friedcheese	4215	20
2	JAKEPEAVY21	2885	20
3	sportfan	2220	14
4	franklee168	2135	16
5	Triple_D_Bet	2075	12
6	ArunSh	1885	10
7	eddycash	1450	10
8	funnyb25	1125	9
9	chipup	1080	10
10	vladfan	830	12
11	BuzzKill	705	8
12	brndg23	695	12
13	209Life	510	7
14	pboozer57	500	3
15	dogkatcher	475	8
16	TireMan	450	6
17	jrgum3	370	5
18	smitch124	320	4
19	cyberbabble	200	1
20	toughone	60	1
21	Blacke	40	1
	USA EAST
1	yahoonino	3070	17
2	blankoblanco	2705	16
3	empiremaker	2180	14
4	thechaoz	2045	12
5	Crusherrr	2030	11
6	Bigorange	1990	10
7	hhsilver	1970	16
8	JediMindPicks	1915	10
9	ChuckyTheGoat	1910	12
10	Getch13	1900	17
11	craigpb	1830	13
12	phinfan27615	1810	14
13	pablo222	1400	10
14	thetrinity	1400	11
15	Joecool20	1390	10
16	GaryDN	1375	12
17	bobbywaves	1355	17
18	yisman	1245	11
19	dlowilly	1160	12
20	sammygran	1100	9
21	frankzig	845	9
22	deadphish	830	9
23	blackbart	675	6
24	shane	560	7
25	JayTris07	525	7
26	cincinnatikid513	425	4
27	carolinadaze	385	4
28	bonzaii	375	2
29	thomorino	375	4
30	afisher1292	300	1
31	dankelly	300	1
32	konck	275	2
33	uscphillyguy	205	3
34	pavyracer	165	2
35	gunslinger572	160	3
36	RudyRuetigger	125	1
37	bigdaddyjames	120	2
38	MyDogRudsta	115	2
39	onerous	75	1
40	tb1984	60	1
41	easycover	40	1
	REST OF WORLD
1	Stefan	2345	18
2	leovegas	1910	9
3	DanielEspinosa	1855	9
4	Stifler	1820	14
5	aggieshawn	1780	11
6	Spacefrog	1700	8
7	slikec	1660	7
8	Lex_icon	1520	15
9	imack	1430	10
10	snapperman2	1400	10
11	horja1	1390	10
12	ninjagorn	1265	8
13	silvap	1165	9
14	pabonaparte	1095	8
15	Enkhbat	1035	10
16	maritsa1819	1085	7
17	Chaz22	910	8
18	dhristov211	725	3
19	spider	565	6
20	eSTOXX	400	3
21	BeerDog99	275	2
22	cricketer	260	2
23	cankid	250	2
24	Optional	135	2
25	Miklos	125	1
26	bracerman	75	1
27	DGG23	40	1
	Disquaslified Players
	codone69	1355	10
	katstale	1365	11
	panamabrad	1230	10
	Mannyfan	1110	9
	OldSchoolGambler	1035	8
	Grivas_Digeni	865	5
	Manosdepiedra	865	8

[RudyRuetigger]

wow

sbr took a hard stance here

[Auto Donk]

the soft play bunch pretty soft now.....

good work sbr, ridding the landscpape of brown people much more effectively than the US Immigration system......

[ArunSh]

Bravo to SBR in DQ'ing folks who were (allegedly) cheating. I say allegedly since I obviously don't have any definitive proof myself that they were cheating, but if SBR decided that they were and acted upon it, well good to see they are trying to root that nonsense out.

As I posted before, one of the very rare times I played in the early tourney I witnessed a very suspicious hand played between a couple of these folks (don't remember which two exactly, it was awhile ago) which involved them checking it down postflop and one of the two checking behind on the river with a full house. Was suspicious enough that I messaged another poster to ask their opinion about it. Again one hand is not definitive proof, but to witness something so suspicious (suspicious enough that I felt the need to message someone about it) in just a single time playing with a few of these folks speaks fairly loudly.

Anyway, good job to SBR in taking care of this if that was going on - people doing that type of crap and getting away with it will only discourage honest posters in the long-term as well as discourage non-pros from turning pro. So bravo on the hard stance!

And it seems like those folks are also banned from the forum also, not just poker so that's also good imo. Again, taking a very hard stance against folks who are cheating the system is the only way to go if you want to try to get rid of it - being soft on scammers will only encourage more future ones to try.

[Auto Donk]

ive played against enough known teammates live in underground games and in casinos to recognize soft play, or aggressive multi-party play against a mark to know there was bullshit going on in the 2pm.... used to be my tourney of choice but after seeing enough of it for about a week or two over a year ago or so -- perhaps even longer -- I moved to the 7 pm.....

[ArunSh]

ive played against enough known teammates live in underground games and in casinos to recognize soft play, or aggressive multi-party play against a mark to know there was bullshit going on in the 2pm.... used to be my tourney of choice but after seeing enough of it for about a week or two over a year ago or so -- perhaps even longer -- I moved to the 7 pm.....

Yup, I myself based on that rare time I mentioned above also immediately decided it would be better to continue to play in one of the later ones rather than playing with what seemed like a soft playing batch of folks. As mentioned, that's why it's so important that SBR take a hard line against such people, seeing this type of nonsense going on with no repercussions will only discourage others from playing in general.

[sam9ball]

Wonder who will be next?

[mpaschal34]

Samball bringing the hammer!

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Congrats to Shari and Sammy.

[pavyracer]

Great job Sammy. If we get rid of the cheaters everyone wins.

[fried cheese]

Wonder who will be next?

looks like shari decided to move the hunger games to poker.

[franklee168]

Opti moving on up!

[funnyb25]

[Auto Donk]

Sammy reminds me of this guy:

[sam9ball]

LOL

[4uk4life]

Wonder who will be next?

I'm selfishly hoping for 3 in the central, preferably between 1-14 if you could. There's a fruitcake in it for ya. Pizza ain't cheap Sam

[Triple_D_Bet]

Sammy reminds me of this guy:

In a world where ghosts, scammers and stiffs are sprouting up all over....one man is about to do a little...weeding:

[thechaoz]

Bravo to SBR in DQ'ing folks who were (allegedly) cheating. I say allegedly since I obviously don't have any definitive proof myself that they were cheating, but if SBR decided that they were and acted upon it, well good to see they are trying to root that nonsense out.

As I posted before, one of the very rare times I played in the early tourney I witnessed a very suspicious hand played between a couple of these folks (don't remember which two exactly, it was awhile ago) which involved them checking it down postflop and one of the two checking behind on the river with a full house. Was suspicious enough that I messaged another poster to ask their opinion about it. Again one hand is not definitive proof, but to witness something so suspicious (suspicious enough that I felt the need to message someone about it) in just a single time playing with a few of these folks speaks fairly loudly.

Anyway, good job to SBR in taking care of this if that was going on - people doing that type of crap and getting away with it will only discourage honest posters in the long-term as well as discourage non-pros from turning pro. So bravo on the hard stance!

And it seems like those folks are also banned from the forum also, not just poker so that's also good imo. Again, taking a very hard stance against folks who are cheating the system is the only way to go if you want to try to get rid of it - being soft on scammers will only encourage more future ones to try.

I'm pretty shocked considering they have allowed massive cheatiing in BTP, college football contest etc and done absolutely nothing.

I've seen some pretty damning hand histories. You don't bet 60 into a 800 pot on the river against a opponent "for value".

That's let em off the hook bet or "don't call I have it" bet

[4uk4life]

I'm pretty shocked considering they have allowed massive cheatiing in BTP, college football contest etc and done absolutely nothing.

I've seen some pretty damning hand histories. You don't bet 60 into a 800 pot on the river against a opponent "for value".

That's let em off the hook bet or "don't call I have it" bet

I've done that before and I can tell you with a fact it has nothing to do with "Don't call I have it" betting. For me its all about being a scared pussy

[Auto Donk]

Sam deals with bears gettin' into his trash:

[ninjagorn]

It had to be hard evidence. I usually multitask while playing a tourney-also when i play for points. I know i was once warned that i 2 in row checked absolute nuts as last one on the river…
But if i watch a game i bet 100 bucks on i dont really care so much specially if it is early in the tourney.

[imack]

hey panamabrad... GFY.

[blankoblanco]

Sam laying down the law, nice to see

[USCPHILLYGUY]

hey panamabrad... GFY.

Macker I lost 35lbs. Can you please update

[Triple_D_Bet]

Macker I lost 35lbs. Can you please update

Congrats! You probably need some new shirts, mailing address where I can send some good ones??

[shari91]

I'm pretty shocked considering they have allowed massive cheatiing in BTP, college football contest etc and done absolutely nothing.

I've seen some pretty damning hand histories. You don't bet 60 into a 800 pot on the river against a opponent "for value".

That's let em off the hook bet or "don't call I have it" bet

I asked Opti for every name and although their points were already turned off by that time, I then banned them all. This is what I would have always done - and always did in the past - but a few things changed where I wasn’t necessarily able to recently. However I know how and why the BetPoints system and poker platform were started and how John would feel about people blatantly thieving or cheating it. That includes our contests now also in which many have already been banned from Pick6 thankfully! My legend of a mate Louise also backed me up on those bannings and any future ones that need to occur so if you see anything you think may be untoward simply PM myself or Opti and we’ll do our best to sort it out.

Best of luck at the tables!

[209 Life]

Were these DQ'd players colluding?

[RonPaul2008]

I asked Opti for every name and although their points were already turned off by that time, I then banned them all. This is what I would have always done - and always did in the past - but a few things changed where I wasn’t necessarily able to recently. However I know how and why the BetPoints system and poker platform were started and how John would feel about people blatantly thieving or cheating it. That includes our contests now also in which many have already been banned from Pick6 thankfully! My legend of a mate Louise also backed me up on those bannings and any future ones that need to occur so if you see anything you think may be untoward simply PM myself or Opti and we’ll do our best to sort it out.

Best of luck at the tables!

Did something happen to SBRJOHN???

[pablo222]

Sam... Kickin ass and Bootin names

[gauchojake]

[eddycash]

Its sick to think these cheaters would cheat a free tournament just to gather more points instead of trying to better their poker game.

[thechaoz]

The world Must allow pablo in. Please. I can be bought

[thechaoz]

Did something happen to SBRJOHN???

He'll die of a heart attack when Bernie becomes Prez

[mpaschal34]

So these guys all get banned from their chip dumping scheme.....makes perfect sense.

Yet Bobbywaves and Firekillex have received nothing?

[Optional]

Opti moving on up!

Was not up to me. I just reported the facts.

Sorry to see them gone though really.

So these guys all get banned from their chip dumping scheme.....makes perfect sense.

Yet Bobbywaves and Firekillex have received nothing?

It's tough to be certain, but although I do think they played each other a bit soft, I don't think there was any master plan about it.

I made the point that Bobbywaves and Firekillex not only did the same thing, but look like it was done for personal gain instead of gifting to friends.

I'd be surprised if either last until the finals.