Cousins should be in MVP discussion

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 11-09-19, 03:34 PM

Disagree. Think Rivers gets in

**MinnesotaFats** · 11-09-19, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

Fatty here’s a interesting stat

since 2015 when Cousins became a full time starter Cousins has better CMP (67% to 64%) fewer INT (49-63) and a better record (38-33-2 rivers 34-39).

no one argues Rivers 1st year HOF

That's right, everyone is putting Rivers in along w Gates, no questions asked.

**MinnesotaFats** · 11-09-19, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Git Lo

i was just talking about this with someone. is dallas .500 or over?

Vikes win tomorrow, take the +$

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 11-09-19, 04:23 PM

Fatty you’re my boy but after that Penn State fiasco.........

**cincinnatikid513** · 11-09-19, 04:24 PM

cant wait aee cousins flop,on the road again in a prime time game

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 11-10-19, 05:46 PM

Can someone bump my thread where I said KC would beat Minny & GB but lose to the Titans

**pilebuck13** · 11-10-19, 06:35 PM

He is due for his shitty game where everyone in the world gets to see how shitty he is hopefully it’s tonight

**Da Manster!** · 11-11-19, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by pilebuck13

He is due for his shitty game where everyone in the world gets to see how shitty he is hopefully it’s tonight

wrong again pilebuck...Cousins another efficient and effective performance...without his main weapon in WR Adam Theilen...what is that like 3 or 4 games in a row without him?...and still 23 out of 32 for 220 yds and 2TD's and no turnovers...and a QB rating of 111.5...not too shabby...

**shadymcgrady** · 11-11-19, 09:01 AM

#30 (Ham, fullback) on Minnesota looked like a man amongst boys last night. Punching the Dallas defense in the mouth repeatedly

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-12-19, 12:31 AM

Passing Stats - All NFL

Russell WilsonSEAQB	9	200	293	68.3	2,505	8.5	278.3	54	22	1	22	135	79.0	118.2
Patrick MahomesKCQB	8	193	291	66.3	2,626	9.0	328.3	83	18	1	10	81	78.2	114.1
Kirk CousinsMINQB	10	197	285	69.1	2,437	8.6	243.7	66	18	3	17	123	60.5	112.0

**cincinnatikid513** · 11-12-19, 12:31 AM

kirk cousins isn't even the mvp of his own team

**mgcolby** · 11-12-19, 01:14 AM

Until it's late in the 4th quarter down 2 and just need to get in FG range to win the game and get in the playoffs. And he throws to a guy with the wrong colored jersey on. Give him credit earned a bunch of money being anti-clutch.

**shocka1212** · 11-12-19, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by mgcolby

Until it's late in the 4th quarter down 2 and just need to get in FG range to win the game and get in the playoffs. And he throws to a guy with the wrong colored jersey on. Give him credit earned a bunch of money being anti-clutch.

Covers the spread. That’s all that matters

**Git Lo** · 11-12-19, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Passing Stats - All NFL

Russell WilsonSEAQB	9	200	293	68.3	2,505	8.5	278.3	54	22	1	22	135	79.0	118.2
Patrick MahomesKCQB	8	193	291	66.3	2,626	9.0	328.3	83	18	1	10	81	78.2	114.1
Kirk CousinsMINQB	10	197	285	69.1	2,437	8.6	243.7	66	18	3	17	123	60.5	112.0

already seen this before in previous seasons when he was franchised with the redskins, why do you think there was so much talk about him?

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 11-12-19, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

kirk cousins isn't even the mvp of his own team

**MinnesotaFats** · 11-12-19, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

Doesnt mean anything

L. Tomlinson once ran for 1500 yards and caught 100 passes and had 15 tds and didnt even make the pro bowl.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 11-12-19, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

Doesnt mean anything

L. Tomlinson once ran for 1500 yards and caught 100 passes and had 15 tds and didnt even make the pro bowl.

Cousins is having a pretty damn good season but no chance he will win MVP. He might finish in the top 10.

**MinnesotaFats** · 11-12-19, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

Cousins is having a pretty damn good season but no chance he will win MVP. He might finish in the top 10.

Exactly, and that's all the post suggests. That he be in the discussion.

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-12-19, 03:04 PM

Peyton Manning choked in the big games...........won 1 Superbowl (the Denver SB he was a manger)

Dan Moreno never won a SB and could never win when it counts........

John Elway could never win the big dance until he was a manager.........

My point is no QB can win when it counts without the right guys around him........

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-12-19, 03:09 PM

Jim Kelly as well could get to the big dance but never won
because he faced a TEAM 4 years in a row!!

There were no TEAMS in the AFC during that period.......

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-12-19, 03:38 PM

This is the easiest way all of you can understand my point on all of the above..........

Troy Aikman is in the HOF because he had a TEAM around him..............

**GUMMO77** · 11-12-19, 04:06 PM

Fatty, don't jinx Cousins.

**jtoler** · 11-12-19, 04:11 PM

wonder what cousins avg/attempt is before receiver runs with it

**GUMMO77** · 11-12-19, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

wonder what cousins avg/attempt is before receiver runs with it

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**Goat Milk** · 11-12-19, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Peyton Manning choked in the big games...........won 1 Superbowl (the Denver SB he was a manger)

Dan Moreno never won a SB and could never win when it counts........

John Elway could never win the big dance until he was a manager.........

My point is no QB can win when it counts without the right guys around him........

Have any of Brady's WRs he won rings with ever made the hall of fame? I don't think they have. A bunch of no names. He makes stars out of puppets. The man threw for 550 yards in the superbowl at age 40. A record. And his number 1 wr was danny amendola and number 2 was chris hogan lmfao.

Bowdown bro.

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-12-19, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Have any of Brady's WRs he won rings with ever made the hall of fame? I don't think they have. A bunch of no names. He makes stars out of puppets. The man threw for 550 yards in the superbowl at age 40. A record. And his number 1 wr was danny amendola and number 2 was chris hogan lmfao.

Bowdown bro.

During Brady's entire career,he missed a total of 20 games from injuries and suspensions...

The Pats winning percentage without Brady is 70% with 3 different QB's to boot!...........

How rich would you be if you won your bets 70% of the time!!!

The question is not a question therefore the exclamation mark x3 is proper punctuation..........

**POOLSIDE** · 11-12-19, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Peyton Manning choked in the big games...........won 1 Superbowl (the Denver SB he was a manger)

You really think Peyton has only one super bowl win? Is this a joke?

**POOLSIDE** · 11-12-19, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

During Brady's entire career,he missed a total of 20 games from injuries and suspensions...

The Pats winning percentage without Brady is 70% with 3 different QB's to boot!...........

How rich would you be if you won your bets 70% of the time!!!

The question is not a question therefore the exclamation mark x3 is proper punctuation..........

And none of those backup quarterbacks could have won them a super bowl. You just keep saying dumber shit.

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-12-19, 10:11 PM

You don't know that.........

Only thing you can do is guess..........

**2daBank** · 11-12-19, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

You don't know that.........

Only thing you can do is guess..........

Did they win the year he sat out and Cassel played? Don’t think so.

**JIBBBY** · 11-12-19, 10:21 PM

Cousins probably playing his best ball this year.. Still kinda sucks though.

**2daBank** · 11-12-19, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Cousins probably playing his best ball this year.. Still kinda sucks though.

We see what happens against good teams when it matters. He might have the best roster surrounding him in the league but when chips are down and his team needs him to make winning plays his true colors will come shining thru.

**JIBBBY** · 11-12-19, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

We see what happens against good teams when it matters. He might have the best roster surrounding him in the league but when chips are down and his team needs him to make winning plays his true colors will come shining thru.

Give any starting NFL QB a good defense and decent OL and running game and they will produce.. Cousins has that now..

Hense Brad Johnson winning the superbowl with Tampa Bay back in the day..

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-13-19, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Did they win the year he sat out and Cassel played? Don’t think so.

No!, it was the 2nd and only time in NFL history to this day in
which an 11-5 team didn't make the playoffs for fukks sake!.....Lol......

Pats record of 5 or more losses per season with Brady at the helm......

2001 11-5 won 1st SB...... If it were 2008 they would've never made it to the playoffs to begin with.
2002 9-7 no playoffs
2005 10-6 eliminated Div. round.....If it were 2008 they would've never made it to the playoffs to begin with.
2009 10-6 lost wildcard.....If it were 2008 they would've never made it to the playoffs to begin with.
2018 11-5 won SB..... If it were 2008 they would've never made it to the playoffs to begin with.

So there you have it,
2 SB's and 4 playoff births wiped clean, from the face of NFL history.........

**Goat Milk** · 11-13-19, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

During Brady's entire career,he missed a total of 20 games from injuries and suspensions...

The Pats winning percentage without Brady is 70% with 3 different QB's to boot!...........

How rich would you be if you won your bets 70% of the time!!!

The question is not a question therefore the exclamation mark x3 is proper punctuation..........

Brady missed an entire year during that low hit. They made a rule after that in Brady's honor. You forget? The rule still applies today.

Patriots missed the playoffs that year. You forget?