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    I like the Giants at -3. Stafford is good at home against average and below average teams but he has struggled on the road against good defenses, going 1-26 on grass against teams with winning records. This game is the Giants season with the next 2 games on the road and Manning has played his best at home and in big games. The Lions leading running back had just 30 yards last week, and I don't think Stafford can carry this team on the road against a good defensive line. The Lions defense was solid week 1 against Arizona Johnson went out early, but the Lions weakness last year was pass rush and the Giants should have an easier time this week at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I like the Giants at -3. Stafford is good at home against average and below average teams but he has struggled on the road against good defenses, going 1-26 on grass against teams with winning records. This game is the Giants season with the next 2 games on the road and Manning has played his best at home and in big games. The Lions leading running back had just 30 yards last week, and I don't think Stafford can carry this team on the road against a good defensive line. The Lions defense was solid week 1 against Arizona Johnson went out early, but the Lions weakness last year was pass rush and the Giants should have an easier time this week at home.
    the stadium is currently going about the process of installing a new artificial surface to replace the one that has been in place since 2013. A spokesperson for the Meadowlands, who operates MetLife Stadium, said that the new turf is known as ‘UBU Speed S5-M.’ The product has been used in places such as Paul Brown Stadium and Aloha Stadium among other college and NFL venues.


    cant make this shit up

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    I thought you only had 2 plays?

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    MetLife has speed turf jackass

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    This guy's harder to track than LB..


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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    This guy's harder to track than LB..

    BD!....how ya doing brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    This guy's harder to track than LB..

    I don't like this post. I had an NFL thread yesterday. It won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    This guy's harder to track than LB..


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    It matters what you play on, and all players deserve the best. The scientifically advanced UBU-Speed Series-S5-M features the Harmony slit-film fiber and a mixture of resilient particles and sand infill that ensures a fast, firm, safe and durable playing surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    the stadium is currently going about the process of installing a new artificial surface to replace the one that has been in place since 2013. A spokesperson for the Meadowlands, who operates MetLife Stadium, said that the new turf is known as ‘UBU Speed S5-M.’ The product has been used in places such as Paul Brown Stadium and Aloha Stadium among other college and NFL venues.


    cant make this shit up
    Lol, my point is that Stafford tends to struggle outside in stadiums with tougher conditions. He has also struggled against better teams, and I still think this Giants team is a 9 win team if Beckham stays healthy.

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    Lol, I have 3 plays now.

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    Gmen do have a tough schedule coming up after tnite...at philly at tampa - home then at Denver

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    I played Giants -3 as well so good luck

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    What's the play? Can we all get on the same side?

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    71 and 6 mph wind awsome conditions

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    U don't know wat ur talking about ur making guess and a half assed odel if he plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbill365 View Post
    U don't know wat ur talking about ur making guess and a half assed odel if he plays
    LMAO, dude I really can't read anything you write because its not coherent - is English your second language.
    Last edited by thomorino; 09-18-17 at 03:49 PM.

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    I can't take u serious u think Giants play on grass and the weather conditions will be bad

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    Biggest don't let him speak to you in that tone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbill365 View Post
    I can't take u serious u think Giants play on grass and the weather conditions will be bad
    I said that I think that stat shows Stafford is not the same quarterback outside of a dome or against good teams, playing on grass is just 1 part of that stat. I did not say anything about the conditions.

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    Buried again

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    Buried again
    Lol, I think the stat shows 3 thins. Stafford struggles outside a dome, struggles against good teams, and struggles on grass. I don't care what turf they play on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Lol, I think the stat shows 3 thins. Stafford struggles outside a dome, struggles against good teams, and struggles on grass. I don't care what turf they play on.
    I think the key ingredient missing is the good team aspect. BOL
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    BUT THEYRE NOT PLAYING ON GRASS

    this has to be sportsfan ghost account

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    I'm taking giants at -3. Im thinking that due to nyg having poor game last week (similar to ne) they spent all week adjusting things on both sides of the ball to make sure that don't happen this week at home. Plus I generally thing manning an odb both play better at home compared to on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jnelson1182 View Post
    I'm taking giants at -3. Im thinking that due to nyg having poor game last week (similar to ne) they spent all week adjusting things on both sides of the ball to make sure that don't happen this week at home. Plus I generally thing manning an odb both play better at home compared to on the road.
    Old Dirty Bastard is dead. OBJ may play though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    BUT THEYRE NOT PLAYING ON GRASS

    this has to be sportsfan ghost account
    Lol, how fuking dumb are you - the stat is not exclusively relevant to grass games - it shows he struggles against good teams, I believe the Giants are a 9 win team.
    Last edited by thomorino; 09-18-17 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    - the stat is not exclusively relevant to grass games
    Why post a stat on how he has done on grass then? Seems a stat on how he has done on grass is only relevant to how he has done on gras....

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    Why post a stat on how he has done on grass then?
    Because the stat shows to me he's not the same quarterback outside of the dome and on the road. The turf they play on is in my opinion only part of the reason he's the same quarterbacks on grass or on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    This guy's harder to track than LB..


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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Because the stat shows to me he's not the same quarterback outside of the dome and on the road. The turf they play on is in my opinion only part of the reason he's the same quarterbacks on grass or on the road.


    So why not post his record on the road? Or his record outside??? Why grass?

    Hint:

    BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE PLAYING ON GRASS TONIGHT

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    So why not post his record on the road? Or his record outside??? Why grass?

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    BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE PLAYING ON GRASS TONIGHT
    Lol, if Detroit plays in a dome, than games on grass would be on the road. The point of the stat, again, is it shows how he does against good teams, how he does on the road, and how he does on grass.

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    Line jumped to 3 1/2. My guess is because is obj is playing. Good luck guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Lol, my point is that Stafford tends to struggle outside in stadiums with tougher conditions. He has also struggled against better teams, and I still think this Giants team is a 9 win team if Beckham stays healthy.
    who doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    who doesn't?
    There is a difference between struggling and going 1-26.

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