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  • MalikHusam
    SBR MVP
    • 09-07-16
    • 2773

    #1
    So I signed up for Kalshi...
    I haven't deposited yet - waiting for SBR Andy to send the NFL contest prize. But I've noticed the banner and thought I'd try a 'legal option'. Account approved within minutes, and I haven't paid attention to prices but today I checked lines for the NHL...And they made me think of a local I used a couple of years ago lol

    54c bet 100, to be paid 179 on Red Wings
    47c bet 100, to be paid 205 on Senators

    Is this correct? Damn I hoped to have a lower vig but it's still better than nothing, I guess. Those prices include the vig, right?
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 63221

    #2
    Originally posted by MalikHusam
    54c bet 100, to be paid 179 on Red Wings
    47c bet 100, to be paid 205 on Senators
    54%+47% equals 101%. Or 1% overround/vig

    Can't get much lower than that
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    • MalikHusam
      SBR MVP
      • 09-07-16
      • 2773

      #3
      Right but 179+205 = 384

      Isn't 1% on 400 supposed to be 4$?
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 63221

        #4
        You're right. Their posted buy/sell numbers don't match the $ payout figures.

        179 = -127 or implied probability of 55.9%, not 54%.
        205 = +105 or implied probability of 48.8%, not 47%.

        Looks like they insert their fees in there between the buy/sell quotes and the payout $ shown.

        Here is the table of fees https://kalshi.com/docs/kalshi-fee-schedule.pdf
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        • unde0087
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 03-27-08
          • 29035

          #5
          What the hell is kalshi?
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          • icon
            SBR MVP
            • 01-09-18
            • 3433

            #6
            Originally posted by unde0087
            What the hell is kalshi?
            A traditional Iranian stew. Made with potatoes and goat meat.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 63221

              #7
              Originally posted by unde0087
              What the hell is kalshi?
              Prediction market. Like Polymarket.

              Don Trump Jr is one of their senior execs.
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              • SomeDayinBuffalo
                SBR MVP
                • 08-12-11
                • 1545

                #8
                Originally posted by Optional

                Prediction market. Like Polymarket.

                Don Trump Jr is one of their senior execs.
                Well now I know who made money off the US taking over Venezuela on Kalshi
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                • raiders72001
                  Senior Member
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 11293

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Optional



                  Don Trump Jr is one of their senior execs.
                  This is definitely good news. Helps to keep these markets legal for the US.
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                  • raiders72001
                    Senior Member
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 11293

                    #10
                    Took a look and there are tons of markets. It's really good for makers since the take will be lower and you can put up alts. Unfortunately, I can't use it from my state.
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                    • ThaWoj
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-09-10
                      • 6781

                      #11
                      I tried to sign up using the sbr link. Got on chat to see how to get the $10 and it was error after error. Quickly uninstalled.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 63221

                        #12
                        Originally posted by raiders72001

                        This is definitely good news. Helps to keep these markets legal for the US.
                        Yeah the Don Jr involvement signals it will not be shut down by regulators anytime soon.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 63221

                          #13
                          If you put up offers for other users to bet, the fees are low.

                          If you place bets on longshots or heavy chalk the fees are low.

                          If you place bets on props that are near even money, the fees are higher. Looks like similar to a vanilla book with 20-25 cent market spread for typical ATS bets.


                          Place your bet offers early if you want to bet ATS is the way to use it.
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                          • miaplus3
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 03-16-10
                            • 249

                            #14
                            So, can Kalshi be used in the same way I use bookmaker for daily sports wagering?
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                            • pavyracer
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82800

                              #15
                              I propose SBR make a tutorial on how to bet on Kalshi if they want us to sign up as this looks like it operates differently than traditional sportsbook.
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                              • 2Sweeet
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-31-22
                                • 1514

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                I tried to sign up using the sbr link. Got on chat to see how to get the $10 and it was error after error. Quickly uninstalled.
                                me 2
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                                • unde0087
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 03-27-08
                                  • 29035

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by icon

                                  A traditional Iranian stew. Made with potatoes and goat meat.
                                  Sounds nice. I might have to dabble
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                                  • SBR Andy
                                    Administrator
                                    • 02-09-22
                                    • 5364

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by miaplus3
                                    So, can Kalshi be used in the same way I use bookmaker for daily sports wagering?
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    I propose SBR make a tutorial on how to bet on Kalshi if they want us to sign up as this looks like it operates differently than traditional sportsbook.
                                    Hey Guys. Here is the SBR Kalshi Review page with step-by-step instructions on how to sign up, redeem the code for the bonus, and begin trading. Let me know if you have any further questions, I can try and get answers for you.
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                                    • SBR Andy
                                      Administrator
                                      • 02-09-22
                                      • 5364

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                      I tried to sign up using the sbr link. Got on chat to see how to get the $10 and it was error after error. Quickly uninstalled.
                                      Originally posted by 2Sweeet

                                      me 2
                                      Sent you guys a PM to try and get this resolved for you.
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                                      • unde0087
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 03-27-08
                                        • 29035

                                        #20
                                        To get the $10 you have to wager $10. You don't just get $10 guys.
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                                        • 2Sweeet
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-31-22
                                          • 1514

                                          #21
                                          Im not worried about $10 muppet. I'm just saying I get an error message.
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 63221

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 2Sweeet
                                            Im not worried about $10 muppet. I'm just saying I get an error message.
                                            was that using the app or website?

                                            Recall anything specific about the error messages?

                                            Are you in one of these states?

                                            Arizona
                                            Illinois
                                            Maryland
                                            Massachusetts
                                            Michigan
                                            Montana
                                            Nevada
                                            New Jersey
                                            New York
                                            Ohio
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                                            • MalikHusam
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-07-16
                                              • 2773

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              If you put up offers for other users to bet, the fees are low.

                                              If you place bets on longshots or heavy chalk the fees are low.

                                              If you place bets on props that are near even money, the fees are higher. Looks like similar to a vanilla book with 20-25 cent market spread for typical ATS bets.


                                              Place your bet offers early if you want to bet ATS is the way to use it.
                                              Yeah I'll have to figure out the 'bet offers' - I was thinking if there are 'makers' on major markets, it would be possible to get decent prices 'taking' offers, but Kalshi doesn't really offer that

                                              svitolina -210 Schnaider +165 (slightly worse than b365, and a lot worse than offshores like BM or BOL)
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                                              • raiders72001
                                                Senior Member
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 11293

                                                #24
                                                Here are a couple of interesting ones.


                                                "Melania" Rotten Tomatoes score? Above 10 is 53%. It's getting bashed by the media without seeing. I'd say under.


                                                Will Trump invoke the Insurrection Act? by Jan 20. 58%. I don't think he does it now that he's getting along with Walz.
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                                                • Madison
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-16-11
                                                  • 6722

                                                  #25
                                                  MA here. I can't deposit/withdraw anything/anywhere by CC. Wife will let me bet anything but will not allow direct access to ACH and our bank accounts.
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 63221

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Madison
                                                    MA here. I can't deposit/withdraw anything/anywhere by CC. Wife will let me bet anything but will not allow direct access to ACH and our bank accounts.
                                                    Can you use USDC? https://news.kalshi.com/p/kalshi-par...e-custody-usdc
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                                                    • Madison
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-16-11
                                                      • 6722

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                      OLD DOG here. The new/cavalier way people move money astounds me. I was in cybersecurity for years. Mark the words ... "The next huge theft will be by Q codes".

                                                      Went to a restaurant a while back and the only way you could get a menu was by scanning the Q code/menu onto your phone. I let my friend do so on his phone and read the menu on his. LOL.
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                                                      • batt33
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-23-16
                                                        • 6121

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Madison
                                                        MA here. I can't deposit/withdraw anything/anywhere by CC. Wife will let me bet anything but will not allow direct access to ACH and our bank accounts.
                                                        Kinda like you MA.... so what I did was get a separate credit card with a very small limit on it a "Clark Howard thing originally used for PayPal/venmo and then twinspires". I used it to deposit to Kalshi thru SBR and no issues.
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                                                        • Madison
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-16-11
                                                          • 6722

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by batt33

                                                          Kinda like you MA.... so what I did was get a separate credit card with a very small limit on it a "Clark Howard thing originally used for PayPal/venmo and then twinspires". I used it to deposit to Kalshi thru SBR and no issues.
                                                          Hey Batt. Hope you and yours and the ponies are all doing well.

                                                          That was way too smart/simple. LOL. I may have to mimic. Thx!!
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                                                          • batt33
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-23-16
                                                            • 6121

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Madison

                                                            Hey Batt. Hope you and yours and the ponies are all doing well.

                                                            That was way too smart/simple. LOL. I may have to mimic. Thx!!
                                                            Thanks Madison! Horses Have been out on the farm and starting to come back! A Couple look promising!
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                                                            • MalikHusam
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-07-16
                                                              • 2773

                                                              #31
                                                              Tennis WTA Kalinskaya-Navarro

                                                              I back Kalinskaya at 65c, payout is -200
                                                              I back Nvarro at 38c, payout is +168

                                                              WTF is this pricing




                                                              bet365 is -188 +150
                                                              not to mention real sportsbooks
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                                                              • Bluehorseshoe
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-13-06
                                                                • 15102

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by MalikHusam
                                                                Tennis WTA Kalinskaya-Navarro

                                                                I back Kalinskaya at 65c, payout is -200
                                                                I back Nvarro at 38c, payout is +168

                                                                WTF is this pricing




                                                                bet365 is -188 +150
                                                                not to mention real sportsbooks
                                                                65c should be -186. That's messed up.
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                                                                • Madison
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-16-11
                                                                  • 6722

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by batt33

                                                                  Thanks Madison! Horses Have been out on the farm and starting to come back! A Couple look promising!
                                                                  PM me if you choose, and I'd enjoy following. I handicap horses, as I did with greyhounds with my eyes. The amount of work supercedes my enjoyment. I can hold my own for a while but long term it gets tiring.

                                                                  All my best my friend! Hope the dampnest in the west has given you a break with the fires11
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                                                                  • MalikHusam
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-07-16
                                                                    • 2773

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I finally got the price!

                                                                    Lakers are 16c and +557 on the money line after fees

                                                                    Seeing +500 to +550 elsewhere (with Bufkin and Kennard starting)

                                                                    FINALLY lol
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                                                                    • MalikHusam
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-07-16
                                                                      • 2773

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The bet didn't work pregame but, as expected, I got a much better deal in-play

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