Any of you guys collect cards?

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Nice card...those paper cards(especially older ones) are very hard grades even when they look perfect. That one looks slightly off centered top to bottom but overall looks nice.

Thanks Jake. Yes I do agree with the off centered opinion. Did the $99 PSA membership will be sending that in along with 8 or 9 more. Any thoughts on shipping them from a newbie

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Thanks Jake. Yes I do agree with the off centered opinion. Did the $99 PSA membership will be sending that in along with 8 or 9 more. Any thoughts on shipping them from a newbie

Philly, I'll give my own opinion: *I prefer to do the Show dropoff.
...If you can dropoff cards at a show in your area, you jump one of the loops.
...I like to check-in the cards, so they have proof of turning over to them.

That said, I have seen bad Customer Service. Have seen that from two grading companies.

Listen to what Jake says. Think he'll have better insight for you.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Thanks Jake. Yes I do agree with the off centered opinion. Did the $99 PSA membership will be sending that in along with 8 or 9 more. Any thoughts on shipping them from a newbie

There are videos on Youtube as to how to package and send in the cards that would probably help you more than reading the procedure via the written word.

Basically in short this is what you do:

Input all cards in your submission on PSA website and when finished print out the forms.

Put all cards penny sleeves and card saver 1 plastic sleeves. Then I put rubber band horizontally and vertically around the stack of card saver 1s. Then I cut out 2 pieces of cardboard to fit around the cards to protect them in transit and again put rubberbands horizontally and vertically around the cardboard cutouts so the cards are all snug and protected.

I use USPS priority fixed rate boxes to ship out...anything less than 30 cards or so I use the smallest one for $10-11. From the printed out PSA forms, I tape the bar code(from printed out forms) on the front of the box and PSA scans that when they receive it and you can see on the website that your submission has arrived and they have it in hand. Include PSA forms 1 and 2 inside the box with the cards. I also put some bubble wrap or something in the box so everything is snug and not moving around in transit.

I think that is pretty much it...good luck with your first submission!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Philly, I'll give my own opinion: *I prefer to do the Show dropoff.
...If you can dropoff cards at a show in your area, you jump one of the loops.
...I like to check-in the cards, so they have proof of turning over to them.

That said, I have seen bad Customer Service. Have seen that from two grading companies.

Listen to what Jake says. Think he'll have better insight for you.

I was thinking that as well prior to submitting any cards...finally decided it was too much hassle and just sent them through the mail. So long as you package everything snugly and protect the cards, everything should be fine. I have sent around 20 submissions and 500+ cards and never once had an issue.

However, do what makes you feel comfortable.

If I was sending in a Michael Jordan rookie or something, I would probably hand deliver it to them at a show or at their business address.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I forgot to mention, I also put the cards in the same order as I input them at PSA to make things easier on the grader.

[k13]

Just bought a couple Mario rookies. Don't think I ever had the OPC rook b4.

Some of the prices on hi-end items are too low. Precursor to a recession? Collectors liquidating their items to pay for bills?

I spoke to a collector-friend of mine. He says that a lot of dealers are underwater to the tune of 60%+. IE, they might be holding $40,000 current market value on items they paid $100,000 for.

If you want a mid-grade Gretzky rookie, can find one for $1000 to $1200. This is too low (IMHO).

I scout out bargains on Holy Grail cards like:
*1969 Alcindor
*1979 Gretzky
*1980 Bird/Magic

...If the prices look too low to me, I'm not afraid to Buy.

All the COVID money left and now everyone is scared trying to get out. They've been liquidating for the last two years.

Lebron cards are really cheap.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

All the COVID money left and now everyone is scared trying to get out. They've been liquidating for the last two years.

Lebron cards are really cheap.

Yes, I've made similar comments. Not unusual for cards to be selling for 30% of what they were at the peak.

Sometimes even lower (like 20%). I've seen 1981 Magic Johnson cards sell for $100 recently. Same card was $600 at peak.

[k13]

Yes, I've made similar comments. Not unusual for cards to be selling for 30% of what they were at the peak.

Sometimes even lower (like 20%). I've seen 1981 Magic Johnson cards sell for $100 recently. Same card was $600 at peak.

Some are down 90% + from peak.
Hard to know where the bottom is though.

[newton0038]

Looking for around $3 million

https://www.cp24.com/news/saskatchewan-collector-finds-rare-case-containing-coveted-wayne-gretzky-rookie-cards-1.6749401?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Looking for around $3 million

https://www.cp24.com/news/saskatchewan-collector-finds-rare-case-containing-coveted-wayne-gretzky-rookie-cards-1.6749401?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

It's hard to believe there aren't other BOXES (if not cases) around. I used to see dealers selling boxes/packs from the 1980s hockey. Admittedly, not as much OPC and definitely not too much 1979 OPC.

See my post above. Unopened wax is really about the scarcity of the item. Not much of it survived, and every pack opened = one fewer pack unopened.

If you buy the case, you shouldn't open the packs. It's a hold, til you sell to the NEXT GUY.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

A few other stats re: the 1979 case.

16 boxes * 48 packs/box * 14 cards/pack = 10,752 cards

396-card set.

E (# Gretzky pulls) = 27.2. Also, this is sometimes called a "one-card set." IE, the 2nd-best card = miles away from the Gretzky Rook.

Good Luck pulling a perfect card. The OPC rough cut always bothered me.

Props to the guy selling. Will be interested in seeing what price he lands.

[k13]

You'll be lucky to get a psa 8 from any of them and the way psa grades now they will all be 4-6.
Obviously the guy won't be opening it.
You have to be stupid to do that or beyond rich.

[packerd_00]

Looking for around $3 million

https://www.cp24.com/news/saskatchewan-collector-finds-rare-case-containing-coveted-wayne-gretzky-rookie-cards-1.6749401?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

My dad sent me a link to this story. Absolutely crazy that case survived all of those years. I'm hearing its worth in the range of a million dollars.

[packerd_00]

A few other stats re: the 1979 case.

16 boxes * 48 packs/box * 14 cards/pack = 10,752 cards

396-card set.

E (# Gretzky pulls) = 27.2. Also, this is sometimes called a "one-card set." IE, the 2nd-best card = miles away from the Gretzky Rook.

Good Luck pulling a perfect card. The OPC rough cut always bothered me.

Props to the guy selling. Will be interested in seeing what price he lands.

It's meant to be in the range of a million dollars. I'll take that thank you.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

It's meant to be in the range of a million dollars. I'll take that thank you.

As the seller. Sure, it's great.

My opinion is that un-opened wax is over-priced. Centering from back then wasn't so good. Would be very lucky to pull a near-perfect card.

[hehfest]

All the COVID money left and now everyone is scared trying to get out. They've been liquidating for the last two years.

Lebron cards are really cheap.

Central Banker PLANNED Inflation. When it costs double for almost every food item at the grocery store the average Joe isn't thinking about buying sports cards.

[hehfest]

My current PSA submission is almost complete and should get them back in next few weeks.

47 cards and only 10 are mine and the rest are my neighbors.

Might make a short video with the results when they arrive if you guys have any interest.

Ahhhhh.......yeah sure........why not!

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Another getting ready to submit!

[hawkwind]

Once upon a Time, but after they Flooded the Market in the Early 90's. NO

[packerd_00]

As the seller. Sure, it's great.

My opinion is that un-opened wax is over-priced. Centering from back then wasn't so good. Would be very lucky to pull a near-perfect card.

If someone has that sort of money to spend on unopened cards I would have to believe they intend to keep them sealed. I would anyway.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Once upon a Time, but after they Flooded the Market in the Early 90's. NO

I collect almost nothing from 1990 on. Kevin Maas = overprinted cards.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Yes, I've made similar comments. Not unusual for cards to be selling for 30% of what they were at the peak.

Sometimes even lower (like 20%). I've seen 1981 Magic Johnson cards sell for $100 recently. Same card was $600 at peak.

Here's the card I was referencing. Magic in a PSA 8:

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprices/basketball-cards/1981-topps/magic-johnson/values/298570#g=8

Go back a few years. Look at the chart. PSA 8 was regularly selling for $700+.

I mentioned $100 as current price. It keeps dipping. Now selling in the $66 to $70 range.

That's a 90% dip, more than even I thought. Has to be a sign of recession. Assets price dipping, housing prices next?

[k13]

Here's the card I was referencing. Magic in a PSA 8:

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprices/basketball-cards/1981-topps/magic-johnson/values/298570#g=8

Go back a few years. Look at the chart. PSA 8 was regularly selling for $700+.

I mentioned $100 as current price. It keeps dipping. Now selling in the $66 to $70 range.

That's a 90% dip, more than even I thought. Has to be a sign of recession. Assets price dipping, housing prices next?

It was $20 before COVID so still room to go.
The pop is really high.

It will never go back to those prices ever.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Another getting ready to submit!

That is a pretty cool card....it is insane the prices on some of the Ohtani cards, specifically numbered rookie cards.

[captrobey]

[JAKEPEAVY21]

That sounds like something Egon from The Ghostbusters would say lol

RIP Harold Ramis

[hehfest]

It was $20 before COVID so still room to go.
The pop is really high.

It will never go back to those prices ever.

Recession? Playoffs? Playoffs? Recession? More like a depression coming. Russia just completed about 85% of its monthly trades in other currencies than the dollar where before it was likely all dollars. The USD will no longer be the world reserve currency unless they destroy Russia which likely destroys the US too. Get ready for the ride. Tell Homey187 - that he can't eat cardboard, or his stock certificates......and if he shows up on my land.......well you know the rest he will be fed lead and knuckle sandwiches and I can at least add mustard to it.

[hehfest]

Tito

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Goodnight girls! I'm cashed. See you on the other side if I even wake up. One never knows!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Tito

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Goodnight girls! I'm cashed. See you on the other side if I even wake up. One never knows!

Some of those old 80s wrestling cards are worth quite a lot.

[k13]

That is a pretty cool card....it is insane the prices on some of the Ohtani cards, specifically numbered rookie cards.

Best to sell anything Ohtani.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I'll be attending shows in coming months. Will be interested to see if anyone is selling at liquidation prices.

I mentioned the massive dip in many card-prices. Dealers are underwater, they don't like lowering prices. 98% of the prices I see at shows are too high.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Best to sell anything Ohtani.

Can you elaborate

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Best to sell anything Ohtani.

Agreed, his card prices are outrageously high.

Can you elaborate

Pretty sure he is essentially saying sell high, buy low as they will likely come back to Earth at some point...

[captrobey]

That sounds like something Egon from The Ghostbusters would say lol

RIP Harold Ramis

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Agreed, his card prices are outrageously high.

Pretty sure he is essentially saying sell high, buy low as they will likely come back to Earth at some point...

I actually think his cards come down this year since he can't pitch and will essentially be a DH...