Why is Mattress Mack allowed to take bets?

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  • Halfapointoff
    SBR MVP
    • 01-25-14
    • 1676

    #36
    Well there you have it. Optional says it’s not illegal.
    oh yes it is. He is making a cut and booking games from a customer. The customer has paid for the mattress and has the mattress/furniture . If team loses you lose nothing. If team wins you get a credit back for the purchase price of your mattress/furniture that you already own. So you just won an equivalent cash prize. No different than draft kings promo bets of money back if it loses on certain games. How did he make his cut? The difference of manufacturing price to selling price.
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    • Halfapointoff
      SBR MVP
      • 01-25-14
      • 1676

      #37
      Originally posted by Optional
      Of course it's not illegal.

      1) he isn't dumb enough to NOT structure it in a 100% legal way and 2) which legal authority do you imagine is just ignoring the "illegality" in the face of so much publicity?

      Great promotion that his customers also love.

      Not only legal, also ethical.
      How do you know he’s not dumb enough? Do you know him? He was dumb enough to get caught with cocaine. Martha Stewart is dumb enough. Your loyalty to successful people and assumptions of complete strangers because of them being successful business owners is no different than accepting anything a doctor tells you. No need for the phrase “ let me seek a second opinion.”
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      • Halfapointoff
        SBR MVP
        • 01-25-14
        • 1676

        #38
        Originally posted by Optional
        Of course it's not illegal.

        1) he isn't dumb enough to NOT structure it in a 100% legal way and 2) which legal authority do you imagine is just ignoring the "illegality" in the face of so much publicity?

        Great promotion that his customers also love.

        Not only legal, also ethical.
        The same legal authority that ignores Clinton smashing cell phones.
        The same legal authority that ignores massage parlors opened at 3 am.
        The same legal authority that ignores illegal aliens.

        what world do you live in?
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        • Halfapointoff
          SBR MVP
          • 01-25-14
          • 1676

          #39
          Penal Code 47.03 creates an offense for gambling promotion. That is, it is an offense to knowingly “operate or participate in the earnings of a gambling place,” “engage in bookmaking,” or even “become a custodian of anything of value” related to a bet.

          SOURCE: Versustexas.com
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          • Mac4Lyfe
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-04-09
            • 48366

            #40
            Originally posted by Halfapointoff
            How do you know he’s not dumb enough? Do you know him? He was dumb enough to get caught with cocaine. Martha Stewart is dumb enough. Your loyalty to successful people and assumptions of complete strangers because of them being successful business owners is no different than accepting anything a doctor tells you. No need for the phrase “ let me seek a second opinion.”
            I know him and his wife. I belong to their country club. What’s your point? He started the business promotions back in the 80s, the same time he had a drug addiction. He recovered, made good on his business when he was on his last dime and turned his life around. The man is a living saint. He has helped so many people here in Houston. He has opened his stores up to homeless people. You won’t find one person with a negative word about the man but here you are casting aspersions???
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            • Halfapointoff
              SBR MVP
              • 01-25-14
              • 1676

              #41
              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
              I know him and his wife. I belong to their country club. What’s your point? He started the business promotions back in the 80s, the same time he had a drug addiction. He recovered, made good on his business when he was on his last dime and turned his life around. The man is a living saint. He has helped so many people here in Houston. He has opened his stores up to homeless people. You won’t find one person with a negative word about the man but here you are casting aspersions???
              I don’t give a shit if you clean his penetrating toilets. I didn’t say he was a bad guy. The point is the fuc ki ng title of this thread. Reading is fundamental. Metaphor—if a guy saves 100 babies from a burning hospital then celebrates that night with the locals of what a hero he is and drives home drunk and kills a family on the road, is he charged for manslaughter murder charges ?
              The topic of this thread is about how He is participating in illegal book making.

              By all means, feel free to start a thread about how much of a saint he is or how you drive limousines around your gated community or how he started his business from a tent off the highway to what is now at the same location. I’m well aware of his rise to fame and I wish the best for him and all, but he is conducting in illegal activity and everyone just resorts to he saved 100 babies metaphor. You humans are the weirdest bunch.
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              • JIBBBY
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-10-09
                • 83693

                #42
                He's got a ton of money why not gamble a portion of it? What else is he gonna do with it, build hospitals, build play grounds and orphan facilities? ; )
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                • DA_MOSS
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-22-11
                  • 1829

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Halfapointoff
                  I don’t give a shit if you clean his penetrating toilets. I didn’t say he was a bad guy. The point is the fuc ki ng title of this thread. Reading is fundamental. Metaphor—if a guy saves 100 babies from a burning hospital then celebrates that night with the locals of what a hero he is and drives home drunk and kills a family on the road, is he charged for manslaughter murder charges ?
                  The topic of this thread is about how He is participating in illegal book making.

                  By all means, feel free to start a thread about how much of a saint he is or how you drive limousines around your gated community or how he started his business from a tent off the highway to what is now at the same location. I’m well aware of his rise to fame and I wish the best for him and all, but he is conducting in illegal activity and everyone just resorts to he saved 100 babies metaphor. You humans are the weirdest bunch.
                  Are you penetrating dense?
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                  • Halfapointoff
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-25-14
                    • 1676

                    #44
                    Originally posted by DA_MOSS
                    Are you penetrating dense?
                    Perhaps, please explain. I’ll be waiting, but as shown in your response, you just throw witty one liners without any substance.
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                    • Halfapointoff
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-25-14
                      • 1676

                      #45
                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                      He's got a ton of money why not gamble a portion of it? What else is he gonna do with it, build hospitals, build play grounds and orphan facilities? ; )
                      I don’t care if he gambles whether he has a ton of money or not. Why would that matter? I don’t care if he takes action on games illegally. Like the got damn title of the thread says…Why is Mack allowed to take bets?
                      Is reading or comprehension that difficult these days? You guys are arguing about something I have not commented on. My statement is nothing but an attempt to show how foolish you humans are and how easy manipulated and hypocrites you are at everything.
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                      • mjsuax13
                        Moderator
                        • 03-14-15
                        • 24958

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Halfapointoff
                        I don’t care if he gambles whether he has a ton of money or not. Why would that matter? I don’t care if he takes action on games illegally. Like the got damn title of the thread says…Why is Mack allowed to take bets?
                        Is reading or comprehension that difficult these days? You guys are arguing about something I have not commented on. My statement is nothing but an attempt to show how foolish you humans are and how easy manipulated and hypocrites you are at everything.
                        Humans are easily manipulated and mostly have no clue what’s happening on the back end in marketing schemes. I deal with a lot of insured sweepstakes and contests in my business and the new “revenue” always offsets any potential consumer win and the cost of insurance for the “potential” win. Often- the grand prize never even happens.
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                        • Covering the #
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 02-19-17
                          • 967

                          #47
                          Big man with cash makes legal bets in casinos. Big man with cash and business makes great business offers to public as a hedge. Everybody wins. I don't see a problem?
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                          • Mac4Lyfe
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-04-09
                            • 48366

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Halfapointoff
                            I don’t give a shit if you clean his penetrating toilets. I didn’t say he was a bad guy. The point is the fuc ki ng title of this thread. Reading is fundamental. Metaphor—if a guy saves 100 babies from a burning hospital then celebrates that night with the locals of what a hero he is and drives home drunk and kills a family on the road, is he charged for manslaughter murder charges ?
                            The topic of this thread is about how He is participating in illegal book making.

                            By all means, feel free to start a thread about how much of a saint he is or how you drive limousines around your gated community or how he started his business from a tent off the highway to what is now at the same location. I’m well aware of his rise to fame and I wish the best for him and all, but he is conducting in illegal activity and everyone just resorts to he saved 100 babies metaphor. You humans are the weirdest bunch.
                            No… you first asked if we knew him and then you said how do we know he’s not dumb enough to be doing these promotions illegally. I just told you I know him. Do you not think he has lawyers and accountants to keep the books straight? We had a casino night last Friday with full casino tables. How does he do it? Why isn’t he in jail? You are trying very hard to put the man down. You bring up a coke addiction in the 80s to prove your point? A lot of folks did coke in the 80s. Relax.

                            He is doing exactly what banks and insurance companies do. Cover their asses. Businesses have given away money in sweepstakes and promotions sine the 1700s. It is not illegal because real tangible goods are exchanged for money. If he was just taking money, you would have a point.
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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83693

                              #49
                              Mack is a marketing genius! Using massive gambling wagers to make a bigger name for himself and company. Even if he loses the bet he makes it up in mattress sales after.
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                              • mjsuax13
                                Moderator
                                • 03-14-15
                                • 24958

                                #50
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                Mack is a marketing genius! Using massive gambling wagers to make a bigger name for himself and company. Even if he loses the bet he makes it up in mattress sales after.
                                It’s all great PR.
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48366

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  Mack is a marketing genius! Using massive gambling wagers to make a bigger name for himself and company. Even if he loses the bet he makes it up in mattress sales after.
                                  And if the home teams win, people get free furniture. It's actually a great way to help a lot of local people too. The guy would give the shirt off his back. He has done a lot for this city. A lot that is not reported.
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                                  • chico2663
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 09-02-10
                                    • 36915

                                    #52
                                    Mattress Mac and his cronies were the initial investors of Sam Houston. Once they got it alpproved the race commissioner was killed. Mattress Mac and his buddies lost the track. He isn’t allowed to own a race horse. It is now owned by the wise guys. He has tried to buy race horses but I think he is barred. Guy is a class act. Does a lot with our homeless. When Katrina hit he gave out a shit load of free furniture.q
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83693

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by chico2663
                                      Mattress Mac and his cronies were the initial investors of Sam Houston. Once they got it alpproved the race commissioner was killed. Mattress Mac and his buddies lost the track. He isn’t allowed to own a race horse. It is now owned by the wise guys. He has tried to buy race horses but I think he is barred. Guy is a class act. Does a lot with our homeless. When Katrina hit he gave out a shit load of free furniture.q
                                      Chico you still alive and kicking! Glad you didn't die buddy.
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