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  • IBetYou
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-03-15
    • 8158

    #36
    It was a fairly straight forward point. The BLM crowd associate more with him than they do with the Nigerian-Greek. Anteto' has a good work ethic and he doesn't ask for favours or complain or go on about mental health...
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    • USCPHILLYGUY
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-15-12
      • 21746

      #37
      Originally posted by IBetYou
      It was a fairly straight forward point. The BLM crowd associate more with him than they do with the Nigerian-Greek. Anteto' has a good work ethic and he doesn't ask for favours or complain or go on about mental health...
      Really. Please send me some quotes of Embiid doing the same
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65623

        #38
        Embid/Harden/Maxey is a pretty good core, if Tobias Harris can get it in gear, and he's shown flashes that he can then the Sixers will be handful for the C's and Bucks.

        But the chemistry doesn't seem correct to me.

        I don't hate on Embid, but Joker is my guy.
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        • Shark
          SBR MVP
          • 01-14-10
          • 1789

          #39
          Originally posted by stevenash
          Embid/Harden/Maxey is a pretty good core, if Tobias Harris can get it in gear, and he's shown flashes that he can then the Sixers will be handful for the C's and Bucks.

          But the chemistry doesn't seem correct to me.

          I don't hate on Embid, but Joker is my guy.
          Harris has shown flashes since 2011. He is what he is, he’s not going to figure anything out now. He should be coming off the bench but he’s paid so much. The chemistry on the team is definitely an issue but so is the coach. This is how most of their recent seasons have gone. Team will do pretty well reg season, sputter at the end, then underperform in the playoffs.
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          • IBetYou
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-03-15
            • 8158

            #40
            Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
            Really. Please send me some quotes of Embiid doing the same
            "I don't know what I have to do. I'll feel like they hate me"

            There. You asked.
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            • USCPHILLYGUY
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-15-12
              • 21746

              #41
              Originally posted by IBetYou
              "I don't know what I'll have to do. I'll feel like they hate me"

              There. You asked.
              So you’re comparing that to BLM

              Do better pal
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              • IBetYou
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-03-15
                • 8158

                #42
                BLM, Afro-American... these things matter in politics, and if there's voting involved then it's certainly politics.

                Bryant/ Iverson had a similar thing going on a couple of decades ago. Iverson had the black vote because Bryant had spent time in Italy and generally conducted himself in a formal way. This is fairly well known stuff -not going on some conspiracy tangent.
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                • jtoler
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 12-17-13
                  • 30967

                  #43
                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                  BLM, Afro-American... these things matter in politics, and if there's voting involved then it's certainly politics.

                  Bryant/ Iverson had a similar thing going on a couple of decades ago. Iverson had the black vote because Bryant had spent time in Italy and generally conducted himself in a formal way. This is fairly well known stuff -not going on some conspiracy tangent.
                  u and your opiates smh
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                  • IBetYou
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-03-15
                    • 8158

                    #44
                    It's why Morant has been acting like Iverson lately. Trying to be a man of the people. Went too far and now he's having to U-turn
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                    • jtoler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-17-13
                      • 30967

                      #45
                      Originally posted by IBetYou
                      It's why Morant has been acting like Iverson lately. Trying to be a man of the people. Went too far and now he's having to U-turn
                      0-2. I know its hard to dissect another culture thats thousands of miles away from bratislava. why do u hate everything american bro. all I ever hear is hate and for the u.s. while hoisting europe, why cant we praise both.
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                      • IBetYou
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-03-15
                        • 8158

                        #46
                        Originally posted by jtoler
                        0-2. I know its hard to dissect another culture thats thousands of miles away from bratislava. why do u hate everything american bro. all I ever hear is hate and for the u.s. while hoisting europe, why cant we praise both.
                        I like intelligent players that play unselfishly. They tend to be European. Sorry this offends you! I heard Popovich say recently of Mamukashvili:
                        "He's European, which makes me love him right off the bat because I think those guys are unbelievably well-coached and overall understand the game better than most of us here," Popovich said.

                        More accurately, if we swerve the political correctness, he loves European players because they're more intelligent and unselfish than Afro-American players. Me too! That's not to say that there aren't Euro players that don't have a high IQ (Hezonja) or Afro-American players that don;t read the game well (Kyle Anderson), but there are some rather obvious trends when it comes to ethnicity and to say otherwise is frankly absurd.
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                        • IBetYou
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-03-15
                          • 8158

                          #47
                          Tim Duncan a better example (although technically speaking he wasn't born in the US). Embiid will never be the player he was because he is selfish and stupid.
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                          • jtoler
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-17-13
                            • 30967

                            #48
                            Originally posted by IBetYou
                            I like intelligent players that play unselfishly. They tend to be European. Sorry this offends you! I heard Popovich say recently of Mamukashelli:
                            "He's European, which makes me love him right off the bat because I think those guys are unbelievably well-coached and overall understand the game better than most of us here," Popovich said.

                            More accurately, if we serve the political correctness, he loves European players because they're more intelligent and unselfish than Afro-American players. Me too! That's not to say that there aren't Euro players that don't have a high IQ (Hezonja) or Afro-American players that don;t read the game well (Kyle Anderson), but there are some rather obvious trends when it comes to ethnicity and to say otherwise is frankly absurd.
                            more silliness, not much insight here, I still love u though
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                            • IBetYou
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-03-15
                              • 8158

                              #49
                              Originally posted by jtoler
                              more silliness, not much insight here, I still love u though
                              Silliness? What part did Popovich get wrong in your opinion?
                              "He's European, which makes me love him right off the bat because I think those guys are unbelievably well-coached and overall understand the game better than most of us here," Popovich said.

                              That European players are well coached, or that they understand the game better?

                              If they're better coached then why are there no European head coaches in the NBA? Why has there never been a coach from the Euroleague transition into the NBA?

                              If it's the latter then go watch some film lol
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                              • mjsuax13
                                Moderator
                                • 03-14-15
                                • 25115

                                #50
                                Originally posted by IBetYou
                                BLM, Afro-American... these things matter in politics, and if there's voting involved then it's certainly politics.

                                Bryant/ Iverson had a similar thing going on a couple of decades ago. Iverson had the black vote because Bryant had spent time in Italy and generally conducted himself in a formal way. This is fairly well known stuff -not going on some conspiracy tangent.
                                Iverson won that MVP in 2000-2001 and deserved it. Look at that bum ass roster he dragged to the finals. Shaq/Kobe cancelled each other out. Duncan #2 in that vote.
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                                • jtoler
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-17-13
                                  • 30967

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                                  Silliness? What part did Popovich get wrong in your opinion?
                                  "He's European, which makes me love him right off the bat because I think those guys are unbelievably well-coached and overall understand the game better than most of us here," Popovich said.

                                  That European players are well coached, or that they understand the game better?

                                  If they're better coached then why are there no European head coaches in the NBA? Why has there never been a coach from the Euroleague transition into the NBA?

                                  If it's the latter then go watch some film lol
                                  he said what he said but you went racial with it, he didnt.
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61625

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by IBetYou
                                    Silliness?
                                    That was his nice way of saying you are so far gone you cannot even recognize how you frame everything you say within your racist think prism.

                                    But don't worry that this confuses you. The whole point of being "nice" about it was that everyone could already see you have no hope of understanding the point. HH!
                                    .
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                                    • blankoblanco
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-18-11
                                      • 3499

                                      #53
                                      I mean, I think I'd agree that stylistically the eventual NBA players who came from Europe seem to be generally unselfish and very good at team bball. That could be for any number of reasons, but it's fairly consistent with what I've seen

                                      However, I don't believe that American players who are black are any more selfish than American players who are white. It usually just comes down to individual strengths
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                                      • IBetYou
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-03-15
                                        • 8158

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        That was his nice way of saying you are so far gone you cannot even recognize how you frame everything you say within your racist think prism.

                                        But don't worry that this confuses you. The whole point of being "nice" about it was that everyone could already see you have no hope of understanding the point. HH!
                                        I was asked questions and I answered in good faith. If it hurt your feelings then fk off. I wasn't talking to you...
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65623

                                          #55
                                          The MVP award is decided by a panel made up of 100 NBA sports journalists and TV broadcasters.
                                          The unofficial criteria for voting is 'who is the player responsible for carrying their team to victory'

                                          Denver has a three game lead in the West Conference, and that's pretty much all due to the play of Jokic.
                                          Philadelphia is in third place, closer to fourth place than the second place team in the west is to overtaking Denver.

                                          Embid has a much better supporting cast than Jokic has in Denver.
                                          You can argue that Embid plays better defense, you can argue that Jokic is the better distributer and shooter.
                                          (Jokic FG% IS 63 percent compared to Embid's 54 percent) Jokic averages 12 rebounds per games, Embid, 10.

                                          Jokic is more valuable to Denver than Embid is to Philadelphia, and that is the essence of the MVP award.
                                          The 'V' in MVP, valuable is the operative word.

                                          Now, getting back to the 100 man panel that votes, I highly doubt there is a movement like the BLM, orr any other underground grassroots movement that secretly gets to the voters behind closed doors and tries to influence the aforementioned 100 man panel to vote one way or another.

                                          To suggest there is racial bias here is well, just flat out ignorance.
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                                          • USCPHILLYGUY
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-15-12
                                            • 21746

                                            #56
                                            Denver has a 2 game lead over Philly in the overall standings.

                                            eastern conference teams are clearly stronger then the west.

                                            I still like my +600
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65623

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by IBetYou
                                              I was asked questions and I answered in good faith. If it hurt your feelings then fk off. I wasn't talking to you...
                                              Know this and know this well, telling Opti to f*ck off is not the way to go here.
                                              Believe that.

                                              Everybody is entitled to their opinions, this is still the peoples forum, we strive for the free exchange of open opinions and ideas, racial posts are highly frowned upon, and telling an administrator who is trying to make this place a better place to f*ck off is, well, like I said, really not the way to go here.

                                              Word of advice, if you choose to respond to this post, choose your words extremely carefully.
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65623

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                Denver has a 2 game lead over Philly in the overall standings.

                                                eastern conference teams are clearly stronger then the west.

                                                I still like my +600
                                                Like I said earlier, the +600 on a player who has a realistic chance of winning the MVP (you never know) is a brilliant wager, I hope it hits for you, I have no Jokic bet this season, but I reduced a certain poster to tears last season, and I know you remember that.

                                                Good luck Philly dude.
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                                                • JIBBBY
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83686

                                                  #59
                                                  He's a bit injured now. No chance he stays healthy coming down the stretch to playoff time. Kiss that MVP prop goodbye. He'll lose it by injury default.


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                                                  • IBetYou
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-03-15
                                                    • 8158

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                    Know this and know this well, telling Opti to f*ck off is not the way to go here.
                                                    Believe that.

                                                    Everybody is entitled to their opinions, this is still the peoples forum, we strive for the free exchange of open opinions and ideas, racial posts are highly frowned upon, and telling an administrator who is trying to make this place a better place to f*ck off is, well, like I said, really not the way to go here.

                                                    Word of advice, if you choose to respond to this post, choose your words extremely carefully.
                                                    penetrate off
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                                                    • Nate rasta
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-30-22
                                                      • 2953

                                                      #61
                                                      If Joel Embiid can stay healthy I can really see the 76ers getting over the hump and reach the NBA finals this year. James Harden is the wild card. You can really help them or he can really hurt them
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                                                      • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-15-12
                                                        • 21746

                                                        #62
                                                        52 spot tonight
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                                                        • stevenash
                                                          Moderator
                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 65623

                                                          #63
                                                          ^
                                                          Nice game, still the second best center in the NBA today, third best if you consider The Greek a C/PF.
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                                                          • manny24
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-22-07
                                                            • 20046

                                                            #64
                                                            welp the MVP race is over

                                                            good call Philly
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65623

                                                              #65
                                                              Rk Player Team W L G MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Prob%
                                                              1 Nikola Jokić DEN 52 27 68 33.8 9.5 15 0.633 0.8 2.2 0.385 8.6 12.8 0.675 5 6.1 0.821 2.5 9.4 11.9 9.8 1.3 0.7 3.6 2.5 24.8 59.70%
                                                              2 Joel Embiid PHI 52 27 65 34.7 11.1 20.2 0.547 1 3 0.328 10.1 17.2 0.585 10.1 11.8 0.859 1.7 8.5 10.2 4.2 1 1.7 3.4 3.1 33.3 14.30%
                                                              3 Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL 57 22 63 32.1 11.2 20.3 0.553 0.7 2.7 0.275 10.5 17.6 0.596 7.9 12.3 0.645 2.2 9.6 11.8 5.7 0.8 0.8 3.9 3.1 31.1 9.10%
                                                              4 Jayson Tatum BOS 54 25 73 37.2 9.9 21.2 0.465 3.3 9.3 0.352 6.6 11.9 0.554 7.2 8.4 0.855 1.1 7.8 8.8 4.6 1.1 0.7 2.9 2.2 30.2 3.60%
                                                              5 James Harden PHI 52 27 57 37 6.4 14.6 0.441 2.8 7.2 0.386 3.6 7.3 0.495 5.5 6.3 0.866 0.7 5.4 6.1 10.8 1.2 0.5 3.4 1.9 21.1 3.60%
                                                              6 Domantas Sabonis SAC 48 31 77 34.8 7.3 11.9 0.613 0.4 1.1 0.366 6.9 10.9 0.638 4.2 5.6 0.748 3.2 9.2 12.4 7.2 0.8 0.5 2.9 3.5 19.2 3.50%
                                                              7 Luka Dončić DAL 37 42 64 36.5 11 22.2 0.498 2.8 8.2 0.347 8.2 14 0.586 7.8 10.6 0.742 0.8 7.8 8.7 8.1 1.4 0.5 3.7 2.5 32.8 2.80%
                                                              8 Jimmy Butler MIA 42 37 63 33.5 7.5 13.9 0.537 0.6 1.6 0.35 6.9 12.3 0.561 7.4 8.7 0.851 2.2 3.7 5.9 5.3 1.9 0.3 1.6 1.3 22.9 1.50%
                                                              9 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander OKC 38 42 67 35.5 10.4 20.3 0.512 0.9 2.4 0.35 9.6 17.9 0.534 9.9 10.9 0.908 0.9 4 4.8 5.4 1.7 1 2.9 2.8 31.5 1.10%
                                                              10 Damian Lillard POR 33 46 58 36.3 9.6 20.7 0.463 4.2 11.3 0.371 5.4 9.4 0.574 8.8 9.6 0.914 0.8 4 4.8 7.3 0.9 0.3 3.3 1.9 32.2 0.90%


                                                              Jokic probability for winning MVP - 60 percent
                                                              Embid - 14 percent

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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61625

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                Jokic probability for winning MVP - 60 percent
                                                                Embid - 14 percent

                                                                We can get Jokic at +600 too now.

                                                                Prob the smart move to lock in +500 for either I guess?
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65623

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  We can get Jokic at +600 too now.

                                                                  Prob the smart move to lock in +500 for either I guess?
                                                                  Yeah.
                                                                  Once again I don't hate on Embid, if he wins this year I'll applaud that.
                                                                  Thing is, imo, Jokic does more with less, a lot less, doesn't change the fact that Embid is a beast.
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                                                                  • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-15-12
                                                                    • 21746

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Wait. Didn’t he have 14 points & 8 turnovers in a blowout loss to the rockets last night
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                                                                    • lakerboy
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                      Wait. Didn’t he have 14 points & 8 turnovers in a blowout loss to the rockets last night
                                                                      Hopefully you win this bet bro but I can't stand Embiid.

                                                                      52 points and they barely won.
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                                                                      • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-15-12
                                                                        • 21746

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                        Hopefully you win this bet bro but I can't stand Embiid.

                                                                        52 points and they barely won.
                                                                        LB wouldn’t say barely won. Horrible officiating last 20 seconds of the game on the no call push on Maxxey plus the offensive foul on embiid.
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