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  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    • 04-04-11
    • 37286

    #1
    Lakerboy, a few Eagle coaching questions for you
    1) Does it bother you that Stiechen was pursuing the Colt job during Super Bowl week?
    ...Not like you had a big game to prepare for or anything.
    ...Don't negotiate during the SB week. Bet on yourself. If you win, your price-tag goes up.

    2) How badly did the Eagles get jocked on the two walk-in TDs in the fourth qtr?
    ...Chief coaches picked up on some tape. They saw that the Eagle DBs weren't passing off the motion man properly.
    ...It's one thing if it happens once. They ran the same play, on the right and then the left.

    3) How lame was the finish w/ the DB holding on 3rd down?
    ...I don't at all put it on the refs. You have KC in a position where they have to make a play.
    ...If anything you make sure to NOT grab jersey. Make him complete a throw into a tight window.

    Lastly, I don't knock PHI for allowing the long Mahomes scramble. If anything, they should have done more of that. Open up the middle, cover the flats. If Mahomes runs for 100 yards on a bad wheel, tip your cap.

    What do you think? How much do you put the loss on the Eagle coaches?
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #2
    Alot. Defense coordinator is a dope. Then again I don't think sirianni is all that. Great QB play by hurts made him look smart. Reid is an offensive genius. He finally got a great QB to execute his plans.
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    • ChuckyTheGoat
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      • 04-04-11
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      #3
      Originally posted by lakerboy
      Alot. Defense coordinator is a dope. Then again I don't think sirianni is all that. Great QB play by hurts made him look smart. Reid is an offensive genius. He finally got a great QB to execute his plans.
      Thanks for the reply, Laker. Wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

      It's one of those games that make you think. I seriously would have done everything short of rolling out a red-carpet encouraging Mahomes to run.

      Obviously, it was a close game. Just makes me think that preparation/execution is what wins a game like that.
      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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      • klemopixx
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        • 10-02-14
        • 3807

        #4
        I'm surprised they didn't blitz on that last drive. They were going to score, why not take a shot at pinning them back on the other side of the 50? If they hit on a long score then at least you get the ball back with some time on the clock. You're never going to stop Mahomes without pressuring him.
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
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          • 04-04-11
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          #5
          Originally posted by klemopixx
          I'm surprised they didn't blitz on that last drive. They were going to score, why not take a shot at pinning them back on the other side of the 50? If they hit on a long score then at least you get the ball back with some time on the clock. You're never going to stop Mahomes without pressuring him.
          Good insight, klemo. Yes, I agree.

          To my point above, it's not so much about running YOUR defense. It's about taking Mahomes out of HIS comfort zone. He looked as loose as can be.

          I'm a big believer that that the best teams figure out the L4 minutes of each half. Kicking a FG on the last play is a double-whammy. You score and eliminate the opponent's chance to score.
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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          • 19th Hole
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-22-09
            • 18946

            #6
            Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
            1) 2) How badly did the Eagles get jocked on the two walk-in TDs in the fourth qtr?
            ...Chief coaches picked up on some tape. They saw that the Eagle DBs weren't passing off the motion man properly.
            ...It's one thing if it happens once. They ran the same play, on the right and then the left.
            Huge.
            ~~

            Originally posted by lakerboy
            Alot. Defense coordinator is a dope. Then again I don't think sirianni is all that. Great QB play by hurts made him look smart. Reid is an offensive genius. He finally got a great QB to execute his plans.
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            • goduke
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              • 02-17-10
              • 11580

              #7
              We analyze games afterwards and the common denominator is always “why didn’t they do this or that?” These are guys that have been in football and seen everything but yet we still chalk it up to stupidity. Why?
              At what point does it become beyond just “dumb coaching”
              Like if we had a mathematician from MIT take a test in algebra vs an 8th grade student and get a worse score we would say that’s impossible.
              But yet on the couch we can see the right decisions that need to be made while experts in the field continue to make dumb decisions, and our only reasoning is “they are dumb”
              It baffles me how unopen we are about the possibility of corruptness in the beloved nfl game.
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              • goduke
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                • 02-17-10
                • 11580

                #8
                I told Lakerboy on 11/20 Mahomes was the nfls golden child and that everyone else was playing for second place because he would be crowned his second title. Why did I know that? I’m not an analytics guy, I’m not a stats guy, I’m not even a lines guy. All I do is open myself up to the possibility that these sports games have bigger motives than just letting athletes line up fair and square from each other each week.
                Fair games don’t build attention, don’t build fan support, don’t build the adrenaline that fans get, don’t help books win which in exchange draws more fans to bet and chase the dream, etc, etc, etc
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                • pologq
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                  • 10-07-12
                  • 19899

                  #9
                  the irony is bradberry should have not held Juju. play tough defense but if he gets open he gets open. if he is open & mahomes completes the pass then the eagles get the ball back with timeouts down 7. they can try and tie or even go for the win. i would go for the 2 pt conversion and the win cause you don't want OT since your defense can't stop the chiefs.

                  the eagles defense made no adjustments. kelce gets open in the first half with 3 guys standing around him. then the 2 tds with misdirection cause the eagles never look at the WR to see he is going the opposite way. their defense looked so medicore.
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                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                    • 04-04-11
                    • 37286

                    #10
                    Exactly, Polo. Your logic is spot-on:

                    *WORST outcome was NOT a td pass. Like you say, that might set up Hurts for a TD and even a 2pt try to win.
                    *WORST outcome was what he did, a penalty that killed the game off.

                    I relate it to the Soccer defender contesting in the box. Make the attacker make a play. Don't gift-wrap it by committing hand-ball in the box.
                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                    • OldBill
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                      • 11-02-21
                      • 6416

                      #11
                      told you all why Chiefs were right side stupid me even tho for team ranked 31stin s o s it was close but eagles were doomed from start

                      never should have been favored
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                      • johnnyvegas13
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                        • 05-21-15
                        • 27895

                        #12
                        Originally posted by OldBill
                        told you all why Chiefs were right side stupid me even tho for team ranked 31stin s o s it was close but eagles were doomed from start

                        never should have been favored
                        This
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                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                          • 04-04-11
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by OldBill
                          told you all why Chiefs were right side stupid me even tho for team ranked 31stin s o s it was close but eagles were doomed from start

                          never should have been favored
                          Holy shit. Monday Morning QB much?
                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                          • johnnyvegas13
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                            • 05-21-15
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                            Holy shit. Monday Morning QB much?
                            Lol
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                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                              • 04-04-11
                              • 37286

                              #15
                              Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                              Lol
                              Johnny, having studied all these Super Bowls (see the thread), I can say these games fall into one of three categories:
                              1) Blowouts. Games where the talent/execution edge was too large to overcome.
                              2) Games where Team A makes too many mistakes. Team B can't help but win.
                              3) Close games where coaching preparation (and in-game adjustments) make the difference.

                              This game clearly falls into category 3. I now see that BOTH Eagle Coordinators were seeking out jobs during Super Bowl week. Ridiculous, their lack of preparation showed.
                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                              • Booya711
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                                • 12-20-11
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                                #16
                                Chucky is a fukking idiot….nothing to see here
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                                • stevek173
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                                  • 03-29-08
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                                  #17
                                  Chucky is NOT an idiot
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                                  • Booya711
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                                    • 12-20-11
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by stevek173
                                    Chucky is NOT an idiot
                                    He thinks Johnnyvegas had a clue….he is an idiot…LB knows this also

                                    I know you are homeless so you have no clue either
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                                    • Booya711
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                                      • 12-20-11
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                                      #19
                                      Stevie and chucky have bo clue….(ck) stay over at BMR…both you clowns
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