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  • OldBill
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-02-21
    • 6416

    #1
    WHY use offshores and you get fawwwwkeeedddd
    years ago i used them the greek was best but payouts done by ** was charged fee's

    today ok if you do not have brick and mortar sports book near you i understand

    but i bet at any local casino and get ticket when i win i can go back after game is done and get paid in cash instantly

    like i been waiting for this to become a reality and fawwwwwk that bitcoin BS if it drops in value YOU lose $$$

  • bonzaii
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-07-17
    • 5000

    #2
    Most people still can’t bet at a regulated book and unless sports betting ever gets federally regulated it would be a long time for certain states to want to go that route.
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    • bonzaii
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-07-17
      • 5000

      #3
      Originally posted by bonzaii
      Most people still can’t bet at a regulated book and unless sports betting ever gets federally regulated it would be a long time for certain states to want to go that route.
      From the comfort of their home that is.
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      • OldBill
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-02-21
        • 6416

        #4
        ok right now we have 30 states active but 2 more pending
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        • pologq
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-07-12
          • 19899

          #5
          nothing beats getting cash immediately but it is not practical for many of us.

          DK is as close to instant cash as you have. their payouts are lightning fast right into my bank account in minutes.
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          • Fishhead
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-11-05
            • 40179

            #6
            Been playing offshore pre-2000........... many, many shops, close to 100.

            Only stiffed ONCE for 3k with ACES GOLD (and a book stepped up and paid those losses, forget whom, want to say CRIS, BETONLINE, or MANSION??)

            Currently in TEN
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            • jedihyoju
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 04-24-20
              • 503

              #7
              californian

              Seems like California will never be legal.

              However, if you play in big reputable books like heritage, betonline, etc...

              You get way better odds

              Legal shops are juiced AF
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              • captrobey
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-02-10
                • 34356

                #8
                Originally posted by OldBill
                years ago i used them the greek was best but payouts done by ** was charged fee's

                today ok if you do not have brick and mortar sports book near you i understand

                but i bet at any local casino and get ticket when i win i can go back after game is done and get paid in cash instantly

                like i been waiting for this to become a reality and fawwwwwk that bitcoin BS if it drops in value YOU lose $$$

                Offshore they have WAY better bonuses . Other then original deposit they pretty much are garbage in NJ. GT i get 100% cash once in awhile or 100% FP here and there. In NJ next to nothing.In NJ when i won decent amounts i have to pay taxes on a decent win that is a chunk. Offshore i have never paid a cent.
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                • TheGoldenGoose
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-27-12
                  • 3745

                  #9
                  5Dimes Tony was and will always be the biggest prick in the industry. Probably ten years since his death and I still want to pizz on his grave.

                  MFer.
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                  • stake1
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-19-18
                    • 18116

                    #10
                    plenty of solid offshore outs. With far better lines and loyalty offerings than the dk's and fanduels have
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                    • JasonTC
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 07-24-18
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stake1
                      plenty of solid offshore outs. With far better lines and loyalty offerings than the dk's and fanduels have
                      Which site would you recommend that you trust paying you and has a good new player bonus? Thru the years I've opened accounts at most of the big ones like bovada, heritage, bookmaker to name a few so they arent options for me. I'm out of the loop these days so was thinking there might be a trustworthy book out there I have never played with.
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                      • captrobey
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-02-10
                        • 34356

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JasonTC
                        Which site would you recommend that you trust paying you and has a good new player bonus? Thru the years I've opened accounts at most of the big ones like bovada, heritage, bookmaker to name a few so they arent options for me. I'm out of the loop these days so was thinking there might be a trustworthy book out there I have never played with.
                        Gtbets i have always gotten paid and check from time to time on their site they have offers that pop up for higher amounts . Right now i am at 25% cash but i get offers at times for 100% cash a couple times 150% cash. Wagerweb has 30% cash. Justbet sends offers maybe 1-2 times a month for 100% Free Play. Youwager and Betpop i get offers 70% Free Play at times. Betus they will offer me 100% Free Play at times. SBG i have seen 25% Cash but once in awhile i have seen 100% up to $200 i think it was.
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                        • flyingillini
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-06-06
                          • 41219

                          #13
                          Im shocked I got paid but I did use a Twitter book and got paid.
                          המוסד‎
                          המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                          • pimike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-23-08
                            • 37139

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JasonTC
                            Which site would you recommend that you trust paying you and has a good new player bonus? Thru the years I've opened accounts at most of the big ones like bovada, heritage, bookmaker to name a few so they arent options for me. I'm out of the loop these days so was thinking there might be a trustworthy book out there I have never played with.
                            Betnow
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                            • pimike
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-23-08
                              • 37139

                              #15
                              Originally posted by flyingillini
                              Im shocked I got paid but I did use a Twitter book and got paid.
                              I never did send them anything.
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                              • flyingillini
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-06-06
                                • 41219

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pimike
                                I never did send them anything.
                                I was very nervous and thought no way I would get paid. I kept winning there. I got my payout and never logged back in.
                                המוסד‎
                                המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                • stake1
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-19-18
                                  • 18116

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JasonTC
                                  Which site would you recommend that you trust paying you and has a good new player bonus? Thru the years I've opened accounts at most of the big ones like bovada, heritage, bookmaker to name a few so they arent options for me. I'm out of the loop these days so was thinking there might be a trustworthy book out there I have never played with.
                                  BetOnline. They have outstanding new customer offers. And you will never have to sweat getting paid by them. if you like poker? They have solid bonus’ there too
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                                  • pologq
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-07-12
                                    • 19899

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pimike
                                    Betnow
                                    agreed. deserves more press.
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                                    • pologq
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-07-12
                                      • 19899

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by captrobey
                                      Offshore they have WAY better bonuses . Other then original deposit they pretty much are garbage in NJ. GT i get 100% cash once in awhile or 100% FP here and there. In NJ next to nothing.In NJ when i won decent amounts i have to pay taxes on a decent win that is a chunk. Offshore i have never paid a cent.
                                      garbage in NY too. if i withdraw from fanduel in about a month they will offer me a $25 match to come back. awful.

                                      someone start a domestic book with solid reload bonuses on deposits. you will get offshore action that way.
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                                      • Fishhead
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-11-05
                                        • 40179

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stake1
                                        BetOnline. They have outstanding new customer offers. And you will never have to sweat getting paid by them. if you like poker? They have solid bonus’ there too
                                        Potential for best shop ever
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                                        • captrobey
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 09-02-10
                                          • 34356

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pologq
                                          garbage in NY too. if i withdraw from fanduel in about a month they will offer me a $25 match to come back. awful.

                                          someone start a domestic book with solid reload bonuses on deposits. you will get offshore action that way.
                                          Fanduel i got tired of because they kept wanting stuff from me for ID and i just got sick of it and stopped playing there.Noone else did that to me to the extent that they did.I would not bother for $25 either .
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                                          • d2bets
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 39995

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                            Been playing offshore pre-2000........... many, many shops, close to 100.

                                            Only stiffed ONCE for 3k with ACES GOLD (and a book stepped up and paid those losses, forget whom, want to say CRIS, BETONLINE, or MANSION??)

                                            Currently in TEN
                                            That's all? Pretty sure I went over 100.

                                            Didn't get stiffed by Cascade?
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                                            • d2bets
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 39995

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by captrobey
                                              Fanduel i got tired of because they kept wanting stuff from me for ID and i just got sick of it and stopped playing there.Noone else did that to me to the extent that they did.I would not bother for $25 either .
                                              Was that within your home state? Fanduel pays me over and over without a peep.
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                                              • Fishhead
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-11-05
                                                • 40179

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                That's all? Pretty sure I went over 100.

                                                Didn't get stiffed by Cascade?
                                                I was orginally going to say over 100, but didn't want someone to reply and say name them all,
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                                                • JasonTC
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 07-24-18
                                                  • 8

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stake1
                                                  BetOnline. They have outstanding new customer offers. And you will never have to sweat getting paid by them. if you like poker? They have solid bonus’ there too
                                                  Thanks for the feedback guys. I went with BetOnline. I'm going to be visiting my wife's family in the Philippines for a month. Even if I'm thousands of miles away I have to bet the tournament.
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                                                  • captrobey
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                    • 34356

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                    Was that within your home state? Fanduel pays me over and over without a peep.
                                                    Yea it was online it got so bad i mean really bad in the online casinos that i had to restrict myself in all NJ online ones . Betmgm and Caesars destroyed my life and i just got tired of it. At first i would win and as soon as i cashed out everything there changed . Now i just play offshore and i figured it is for the best because the only advantage was fast payouts otherwise there were next to nothing on bonuses and Casino just kept killing me.

                                                    Playing offshore i get good bonuses and i may have to wait 2 days but that is fine i recently cashed out $7000 at Justbet and it helped to get there with the 100% Free play at first plus SBG cashed out $2500 with a 25% cash. If i was using NJ online i would not have had the better start with the bonuses. With my style of betting a decent bonus helps starting out going All In. And i cant lose it all in casinos offshore i have most blocked like at Justbet .
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                                                    • Thefix13
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 05-14-21
                                                      • 664

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by captrobey
                                                      Yea it was online it got so bad i mean really bad in the online casinos that i had to restrict myself in all NJ online ones . Betmgm and Caesars destroyed my life and i just got tired of it. At first i would win and as soon as i cashed out everything there changed . Now i just play offshore and i figured it is for the best because the only advantage was fast payouts otherwise there were next to nothing on bonuses and Casino just kept killing me.

                                                      Playing offshore i get good bonuses and i may have to wait 2 days but that is fine i recently cashed out $7000 at Justbet and it helped to get there with the 100% Free play at first plus SBG cashed out $2500 with a 25% cash. If i was using NJ online i would not have had the better start with the bonuses. With my style of betting a decent bonus helps starting out going All In. And i cant lose it all in casinos offshore i have most blocked like at Justbet .
                                                      Yeah, offshore is for you
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                                                      • mjsuax13
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 03-14-15
                                                        • 25087

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JasonTC
                                                        Thanks for the feedback guys. I went with BetOnline. I'm going to be visiting my wife's family in the Philippines for a month. Even if I'm thousands of miles away I have to bet the tournament.
                                                        Good luck! BetOnline a great book.
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                                                        • Fishhead
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-11-05
                                                          • 40179

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                                          Good luck! BetOnline a great book.
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                                                          • 5918mike
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-16-14
                                                            • 1885

                                                            #30
                                                            I'll stick to my top 4 offshore books for 90% of my bets over a casino sportsbook 2 miles from my house. It's more convenient to place bets from my phone and waiting 24 hours tops isn't a big deal.
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                                                            • jedihyoju
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 04-24-20
                                                              • 503

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 5918mike
                                                              I'll stick to my top 4 offshore books for 90% of my bets over a casino sportsbook 2 miles from my house. It's more convenient to place bets from my phone and waiting 24 hours tops isn't a big deal.
                                                              Totally agree.
                                                              Big Offshores like Betonline, Heritagesports so much better than casinos.
                                                              Casino Juices EWWWW
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83686

                                                                #32
                                                                Offshore pays out in a quick fashion. No trouble.

                                                                Been with off shore books for 25 years now. Overall I'm very pleased with most books like Mybookie, Bovada, BetDSI, Bookmaker, Heritage, etc.

                                                                Gonna take alot for me switch over now.
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                                                                • OldBill
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-02-21
                                                                  • 6416

                                                                  #33
                                                                  yup i'm joing the off shores so i can spread out my wagers i'm still not sure if live sports books talk to each other that one player is hammering them for like $5000 a week havent heard any one get limited yet havent talked to the bosses yet about the possibility but next year i'll have $100,000's to bet with no way they do not limit me if i strat winning like $5000 - $8000 a week

                                                                  it happened to 2 bros i known online spoke to one live on phone accused of mob ties in NYC wound up moving to vegas to be bale to bet that $5000 per game with no restrictions
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                                                                  • stake1
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-19-18
                                                                    • 18116

                                                                    #34
                                                                    offshore books > dk/fd/etc
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                                                                    • 19th Hole
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-22-09
                                                                      • 18946

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by flyingillini
                                                                      I was very nervous and thought no way I would get paid. I kept winning there. I got my payout and never logged back in.
                                                                      ~
                                                                      Flyer--
                                                                      They are among 5 books that I like to use.
                                                                      You know that I have used them for years and I am completely satisfied.
                                                                      Can't beat the 150%-200% bonuses.
                                                                      ~~

                                                                      Not sure why the OP likes no bonuses and bad lines?






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                                                                      Last edited by 19th Hole; 02-19-23, 12:57 PM.
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