5 NY Books Will Close This Year

[jjgold]

PointsBet	$416,383,235	2.6%
BetRivers	$403,762,122	2.5%
WynnBet	$91,146,402	0.6%
ResortsWorld	$56,464,484	less than 0.1%
BallyBet	$5,647,085	less than 0.1%

[iwantcougars]

the percentage is the profit from the operations? and the amount the capital??

[jjgold]

volume

NY Dominated by 3 properties

[mjsuax13]

volume

NY Dominated by 3 properties

Where do you donate JJ?

[newton0038]

Books need to operate on volume. The tighter the number = higher vig associated profit. Moving the number off a key is a no no when you can offer a number at a high vig. Also sport specific management of the offerings.
Number with the most volume hands down is the football 3.

[goduke]

if some of these books can hang on they could have a shot in future years once people get frustrated with the main books. If you let FD/DK dominate and close everything down its really going to crush the market.
The one thing these other books need to do is focus on what the big books dont give customers and give those options

[stevex]

Offer reload bonuses and the book will make more money. All the offshore books do it and a good chunk of them have been around for years.

[flyingillini]

In the words of Landers - "Offshore is king"

[Waterstpub87]

Wynnbet under rated. Betrivers limits pretty quick, but ok otherwise.

[d2bets]

the percentage is the profit from the operations? and the amount the capital??

Looks like % is is the % of total state volume.

Are those figures for full 2022? Can't be one month.

[d2bets]

Books need to operate on volume. The tighter the number = higher vig associated profit. Moving the number off a key is a no no when you can offer a number at a high vig. Also sport specific management of the offerings.
Number with the most volume hands down is the football 3.

Problem is these books are marketing companies and literally don't even understand what you said. For the most part, these are not bookmakers.

[mjsuax13]

if some of these books can hang on they could have a shot in future years once people get frustrated with the main books. If you let FD/DK dominate and close everything down its really going to crush the market.
The one thing these other books need to do is focus on what the big books dont give customers and give those options

I’m in Vegas so have Vegas options with very little perks. Agree with you. If you let FD/DK dominate the player stands even less of chance. Find those gaps in offerings and capitalize.

[jjgold]

Fanduel and Draftkings keep getting stronger

[lakerboy]

Fanduel and Draftkings keep getting stronger

FanDuel is terrible. Awful lines. They do give hints though so I thank them for that.

[JIBBBY]

Offshore still king!

[Otters27]

FanDuel is terrible. Awful lines. They do give hints though so I thank them for that.

Still haven't done FanDuel. Signed up but did not deposit. Waiting for them to offer me a big bonus

[d2bets]

FanDuel is terrible. Awful lines. They do give hints though so I thank them for that.

They have plenty of non-awful lines in their offerings.

[d2bets]

Still haven't done FanDuel. Signed up but did not deposit. Waiting for them to offer me a big bonus

They offer what they offer. Bonus whoring is ridiculous. So much $ to be made there, what are you waiting for?

[lakerboy]

They have plenty of non-awful lines in their offerings.

I figured you would step up to bat for them. I know what you are referring to but for the average player they are stealing.

[d2bets]

I figured you would step up to bat for them. I know what you are referring to but for the average player they are stealing.

Good.

[TheMoneyShot]

Have you guys noticed some books are giving out awful lines? There was a hockey game the other night on ESPN's bottom ticker... I think the favorite was -179 and the underdog was +155. That's god awful. It might of been DK but I'm not too sure. What are they doing?? Crazy sh## odds.

[Brock Landers]

In the words of Landers - "Offshore is king"

[jjgold]

Have you guys noticed some books are giving out awful lines? There was a hockey game the other night on ESPN's bottom ticker... I think the favorite was -179 and the underdog was +155. That's god awful. It might of been DK but I'm not too sure. What are they doing?? Crazy sh## odds.

most usa books have those wide money lines

[big joe 1212]

PointsBet took away -107 which was the only reason I used them. No bonuses make them useless

Betrivers has -112 lines. Why would you bet there unless you find a juicy number? They have some promos but they are mostly sHitty ones

ResortsWorld doesn’t offer anything

DK and FanD at least offer some good promos, although for small $. They both pay faster than the others. My DK withdrawal last night was in my bank account in 5 minutes

Caesar's is ok but nothing special. Normal -110 lines with some boosts and small free plays/promos. At least I can earn tier points linked to my Diamond card.

Offshore is still the best!

[pologq]

the more time that goes by the more i like offshore. a year ago i was ecstatic about domestic betting. now i just feel like the only real positive is being paid quickly into my bank account. i had much different and higher hopes.

i like bet rivers for the variety of lines and i like their rewards point system.

[patswin]

ballybet is a joke here in nys, no signup bonuses or even booster odds. Nothing. Actually PB has had some nice ones but max bet is $20.

[stevenash]

FanDuel is terrible. Awful lines. They do give hints though so I thank them for that.

This.

DK is surprisingly not that bad, but FD on the whole has a bad attitude, if you know what I am saying.

[jjgold]

The novelty wore off for many Gamblers in the states that have it

It was fun in the beginning, but I gradually faded away from them

[d2bets]

This.

DK is surprisingly not that bad, but FD on the whole has a bad attitude, if you know what I am saying.

Not sure what you're saying at all. I love Fanduel's attitude. Just keep giving the same gifts, paying out, and never changing. Take from the morons masses and give to the clued in.

[pologq]

i like some of the boosts when you catch them. i like earning caesar's rewards and borgata MGM rewards for future AC trips. betrivers as i said has a decent reward model. DK's reward model is not bad either. nothing blows me away.

fanduel from day 1 to this day and caesars are the only 2 apps i can use with no bugs/freezing. that keeps me going back to fanduel without a doubt.

[jjgold]

I think the people that went from offshore to the USA are gradually going back to offshore maybe keeping one US book that’s just my opinion

[d2bets]

i like some of the boosts when you catch them. i like earning caesar's rewards and borgata MGM rewards for future AC trips. betrivers as i said has a decent reward model. DK's reward model is not bad either. nothing blows me away.

fanduel from day 1 to this day and caesars are the only 2 apps i can use with no bugs/freezing. that keeps me going back to fanduel without a doubt.

Fanduel app is real good, clearly the best IMO. CZR can be buggy with not updating live and sometimes crashing and reloading.

[pologq]

the only thing i had with caesar was not re-setting selections after placing a bet

fanduel never crashes and is smooth like a baby's ass

[blackbart]

PointsBet	$416,383,235	2.6%
BetRivers	$403,762,122	2.5%
WynnBet	$91,146,402	0.6%
ResortsWorld	$56,464,484	less than 0.1%
BallyBet	$5,647,085	less than 0.1%

a small percentage of a big pot, a VERY big pot

[jjgold]

Dont forget numbers for the most part have topped out, cannot really grow when your only offering to individual state
Small books just wasting time and space and cannot offer much
The condensing will happen

a small percentage of a big pot, a VERY big pot