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  • gauchojake
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-17-10
    • 34113

    #1
    SBR Consensus
    I know there have been a million threads on this, but given the change in ownership I feel like we should revive it. Do the betting consensus numbers come from:
    a - a US Book
    b - the Covers contest picks
    C- somewhere else like offshore or sportradar
    THANKS
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 61530

    #2
    Originally posted by gauchojake
    I know there have been a million threads on this, but given the change in ownership I feel like we should revive it. Do the betting consensus numbers come from:
    a - a US Book
    b - the Covers contest picks
    C- somewhere else like offshore or sportradar
    THANKS
    Old SBR management was just as cagey about revealing data sources as the new ones are. I guess it's considered commercially valuable info.

    The most I have seen said publicly, so I feel comfortable to repeat it, is that we use data from several books plus a couple of services. I've seen Don Best and Pinny mentioned.
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    • gauchojake
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 09-17-10
      • 34113

      #3
      Thanks Opti. I would be interested in seeing the dollar volume from the sources utilized if possible. I know that was a feature in the past for NFL. You would think with the US facing books being publicly traded companies that there would be more transparency from an investor risk perspective.
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      • BuckyOne
        SBR MVP
        • 01-02-15
        • 2728

        #4
        I just do not see how we can use information we cannot verify. Why would sports books allow us information that has any value?
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        • gauchojake
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 09-17-10
          • 34113

          #5
          Originally posted by BuckyOne
          I just do not see how we can use information we cannot verify. Why would sports books allow us information that has any value?
          You can verify it's value by tracking the consensus vs w/l ATS but you're right, the info by itself is pretty useless.
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          • BuckyOne
            SBR MVP
            • 01-02-15
            • 2728

            #6
            Yes, we are going to want to know is it based on $'s for the consensus and what kind of volume? If it is a per head basis then the sharpness of the clientele would be nice but it is like you say we would have to track it in order to fade or follow.

            Not sure if you play at a world gaming site. They put up a consensus on each game. For example: in the NBA tonight they have Houston +8 1/2 at 90%. It was +9 earlier so I do not know how much of the consensus was at each. The over 225 1/2 is at 94%.

            The money line showed 60% a half hour ago on Houston and now it is 24%. So, does that mean some players are hitting the 390 favorite Clippers or was it a really small sample size on the money line.

            One thing for sure is if a player never tries to find anything he will never find anything.
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            • goduke
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-17-10
              • 11580

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional
              Old SBR management was just as cagey about revealing data sources as the new ones are. I guess it's considered commercially valuable info.

              The most I have seen said publicly, so I feel comfortable to repeat it, is that we use data from several books plus a couple of services. I've seen Don Best and Pinny mentioned.
              Honestly its because that data is manipulated. Books dont just hand out that information without a purpose. When they use to hand that out early on 7-10 years ago they would get buried on certain games. Just like most things books adjust after you hit them hard enough and then if you dont adjust they give you the "consensus data" they want to give you and put you in the grave and laugh while they collect your money.
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              • TheMoneyShot
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-14-07
                • 28672

                #8
                Jake - I never check SBR Consensus anymore... I think it's highly inaccurate. Doesn't match up in any way, shape, or form... with other sites. It's pure garbage.

                I've also seen it change drastically 30 minutes after a game has started. Where one side was dominated 65% of the time.... all of a sudden the "other side" is now at 67% it's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE.
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                • pilebuck13
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-15-15
                  • 17918

                  #9
                  Want a consensus report just ask ten of your buddies at work
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                  • pologq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-07-12
                    • 19899

                    #10
                    i do not trust any consensus reports anymore. too much manipulation to get people to bet a certain way.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      They are not accurate anywhwere
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                      • gauchojake
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-17-10
                        • 34113

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pilebuck13
                        Want a consensus report just ask ten of your buddies at work
                        Lol so true

                        I have a buddy who is so square I just call him on the big games and find out who he likes and then fade
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                        • flyingillini
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-06-06
                          • 41219

                          #13
                          Originally posted by gauchojake
                          Lol so true

                          I have a buddy who is so square I just call him on the big games and find out who he likes and then fade

                          Gauco Loco, who would win in a statistics knowledge bet? You or Justin7, the line is out

                          Justin7 -750
                          Ese Loco +1350

                          I am wagering on you Ese Loco!
                          המוסד‎
                          המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                          • gauchojake
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-17-10
                            • 34113

                            #14
                            Lol bro I have never taken a stats class.
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                            • lakerboy
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-02-09
                              • 94379

                              #15
                              I don't use that stuff anymore. I've adjusted to the the new world order. I might even get the bivalent vaccine.
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                              • Machba
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-08-19
                                • 6773

                                #16
                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                I don't use that stuff anymore. I've adjusted to the the new world order. I might even get the bivalent vaccine.
                                I remember when i first joined and you told me DO NOT EVER GO BY SBR CONSESUS! GL today bro
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                                • Tanko
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-19-09
                                  • 5143

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by gauchojake
                                  Lol so true

                                  I have a buddy who is so square I just call him on the big games and find out who he likes and then fade


                                  Jake, Stop calling me then.
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                                  • Tanko
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-19-09
                                    • 5143

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    They are not accurate anywhwere
                                    JJ is right.
                                    I have yet to find any that appear to be representative of the actual market. Nothing at one site matches another. The built in delays the sites have in updating the information makes it useless anyway.
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