Originally posted by pologq
Griner 9 years in prison
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budwiserSBR MVP
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#281Will she come home. Has to be on suicide watch.Comment -
FoxxSBR Hall of Famer
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#282Like much that is reported anymore, you have to take it with a grain of salt. Who really knows what happen in a secretive country on the opposite side of the globe where news is heavily filtered ? Trump says one thing happen because he wants credit, someone else from California says something else happen because they don't want Trump to get credit. In all of the links, I don't really see anything except someone's unsubstantiated version of the timeline. But this day in age, if someone reports something and enough people repeat it, it becomes stone cold fact.Originally posted by KVBTrump did nothing for the UCLA players, he intervened two days too late to do anything. A lot of disinformation with that story.Seems many forgot what actually happened…https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post31053725Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#283I hear you, but this story with the UCLA players is pretty clear cut.Originally posted by FoxxLike much that is reported anymore, you have to take it with a grain of salt. Who really knows what happen in a secretive country on the opposite side of the globe where news is heavily filtered ? Trump says one thing happen because he wants credit, someone else from California says something else happen because they don't want Trump to get credit. In all of the links, I don't really see anything except someone's unsubstantiated version of the timeline. But this day in age, if someone reports something and enough people repeat it, it becomes stone cold fact.
Nobody is claiming anything the other side isn't claiming.
The fact is that Trump did reach out to help, and he was thanked for it, but he reached out after the fact. The deal was over by then.
Nobody disputes that.
But we've seen a couple of posts claiming Trump was responsible for clearing the Chinese charges and getting the UCLA players home. This is clearly not true.Comment -
FoxxSBR Hall of Famer
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#284I hear you. I don't know what happen. That's all I know.Originally posted by KVBI hear you, but this story with the UCLA players is pretty clear cut.
Nobody is claiming anything the other side isn't claiming.
The fact is that Trump did reach out to help, and he was thanked for it, but he reached out after the fact. The deal was over by then.
Nobody disputes that.
But we've seen a couple of posts claiming Trump was responsible for clearing the Chinese charges and getting the UCLA players home. This is clearly not true.
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DiggityDaggityDoSBR Aristocracy
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#285Originally posted by KVBI hear you, but this story with the UCLA players is pretty clear cut.
Nobody is claiming anything the other side isn't claiming.
The fact is that Trump did reach out to help, and he was thanked for it, but he reached out after the fact. The deal was over by then.
Nobody disputes that.
But we've seen a couple of posts claiming Trump was responsible for clearing the Chinese charges and getting the UCLA players home. This is clearly not true.
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JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#286Those UCLA stealing thugs would still be rotting in a Chinese prison today if it weren't for Trump. I know the story as he called Chi and asked him for a favor to let them go. Chi said yes.Originally posted by KVBI hear you, but this story with the UCLA players is pretty clear cut.
Nobody is claiming anything the other side isn't claiming.
The fact is that Trump did reach out to help, and he was thanked for it, but he reached out after the fact. The deal was over by then.
Nobody disputes that.
But we've seen a couple of posts claiming Trump was responsible for clearing the Chinese charges and getting the UCLA players home. This is clearly not true.
Trump would do the same for Griner and Putin would let her out and there would also be no Ukraine war if Trump were still President today.Comment -
stevek173BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-29-08
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#287Grinder is going to die in the penis colony and her wife will be left all alone.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#288Do they even have suicide watch in Russian prisons? They probably hand out ropes to let you hang yourself if I had to guess.Originally posted by budwiserWill she come home. Has to be on suicide watch.
USA prisons are vacations in comparison and I don't like that! US soft on crime and that's why we have so many repeat offenders.Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#289Normally no, but it's Britney GrinerOriginally posted by JIBBBYDo they even have suicide watch in Russian prisons? They probably hand out ropes to let you hang yourself if I had to guess.
USA prisons are vacations in comparison and I don't like that! US soft on crime and that's why we have so many repeat offenders.Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
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#290Who is Chi?Originally posted by JIBBBYThose UCLA stealing thugs would still be rotting in a Chinese prison today if it weren't for Trump. I know the story as he called Chi and asked him for a favor to let them go. Chi said yes.
Trump would do the same for Griner and Putin would let her out and there would also be no Ukraine war if Trump were still President today.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#291Trump will get her outComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#292Xi Chi Jinping dong ding.Originally posted by lakerboyWho is Chi?Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#293Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
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manny24SBR Posting Legend
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#294maybe late to the party there but he did bring ASAP Rocky home KV you don't want this smokeOriginally posted by KVBI hear you, but this story with the UCLA players is pretty clear cut.
Nobody is claiming anything the other side isn't claiming.
The fact is that Trump did reach out to help, and he was thanked for it, but he reached out after the fact. The deal was over by then.
Nobody disputes that.
But we've seen a couple of posts claiming Trump was responsible for clearing the Chinese charges and getting the UCLA players home. This is clearly not true.
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teeceeSBR Hall of Famer
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#295Should be a riveting story. Can't wait.Originally posted by pologqshe is going to make a shitload of money when she comes home. there will be a book deal, interviews, probably a movie with kerry washington playing her (though the height is off of course). speaking of kerry washington she has those DSL's.
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JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#296Putin should put her in mans prison where he really belongs.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#297For those on the side of the Russian law here thinking Brittney Griner broke the law and deserves her punishment in the foreign country, understand that the vast majority of people caught with this amount of hash oil for personal use cannabis in Russia, at the border even, are fined and expelled from the country immediately.
Brittney Griner’s case was handled differently.
This is why she is considered “wrongfully detained” by the State Department.
They’re treating her as a drug trafficker, a crime against a state, when others with the same offense are simply treated as minor offenders with no jail time.
Russia knew what they were doing, it’s just odd because she’s loved in Russian basketball circles as much as she was in the US, maybe even more.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#298^ Putin is mad at the US and Biden, plus he hates blacks and gay people in general. He makes that well known. Griner got caught at the wrong time in addition to that.
Griner was an idiot for going to Russia in the first place with tensions rising at that time let alone try to bring in weed oil. Just a stupid move and it's gonna cost her 9 years hard time.Comment -
manny24SBR Posting Legend
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#300#FreeViktorComment -
DiggityDaggityDoSBR Aristocracy
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#301Would she be the first player ever traded for a Russian arms dealer?
Is this a straight trade or are there picks involved?Comment -
JAKEPEAVY21BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#302The merchant of death along with 3 future arms dealers.Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDoWould she be the first player ever traded for a Russian arms dealer?
Is this a straight trade or are there picks involved?Comment -
BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-01-08
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#303A few 3rd round felons added in as well.Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDoWould she be the first player ever traded for a Russian arms dealer?
Is this a straight trade or are there picks involved?
Plus the deal is only contingent on Sue Bird sleeping with me.Comment -
VeggieDogSBR Hall of Famer
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#304Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDoWould she be the first player ever traded for a Russian arms dealer?
Is this a straight trade or are there picks involved?And a terrorist to be named later.<br>Originally posted by Bostongambler
A few 3rd round felons added in as well.
Plus the deal is only contingent on Sue Bird sleeping with me.
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JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#305Biden would probably empty all the jails with Russians in them in America for Putin to save Griner now. It's a good political move for him and that's all that counts sadly enough.Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#306She's a pawn on a chess board.
If she wasn't Britney Griner there would be about 20 people who care about her, mostly family. But since she is tall and can put an orange/brown basketball into an orange metal cylinder 10 feet high, the world has to stop and wonder.
It's like with covid. Going crazy over it, vaccines to prevent it, but cigarettes kill 8 milliion a year, over a million from secondhand cigarette smoke, it costs $0 to ban it, there is 0 enjoyment from it (other than a nicotine high which doesn't last), no vaccine needed, but here we are cigarettes are all over the place. And medical marijuana which kills no one gets her a 9 year sentence.
That's because the world is crazy...as is this situation. You can't make sense out of the nonsensical.Comment -
TheGoldenGooseSBR MVP
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blankoblancoSBR MVP
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#308I mean, you're partly right. If she wasn't a "famous" person I'd be less likely to know about it: but only because it wouldn't have been on the news and I probably wouldn't learn about it at all.Originally posted by budwiserShe's a pawn on a chess board.
If she wasn't Britney Griner there would be about 20 people who care about her, mostly family. But since she is tall and can put an orange/brown basketball into an orange metal cylinder 10 feet high, the world has to stop and wonder.
That's because the world is crazy...as is this situation. You can't make sense out of the nonsensical.
But I certainly don't give a shit about her being tall and good at a lame version of basketball, lol. Not a WNBA fan. Just a fan of human rights. I'd care if I knew about it, whoever it was. And what is happening to her is very fked up for the small mistake she madeComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#309I watch 0 WNBA also. I didn't even know who Britney Griner was before she got arrested.
Watching the NBA just gives me a headache. The passes they make don't belong in basketball, I quickly gave up on it.Comment -
pologqSBR Posting Legend- 10-07-12
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#310Originally posted by teeceeShould be a riveting story. Can't wait.
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pologqSBR Posting Legend- 10-07-12
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#311not getting into politics but i really feel biden forgets about her because of his memory issuesOriginally posted by JIBBBYBiden would probably empty all the jails with Russians in them in America for Putin to save Griner now. It's a good political move for him and that's all that counts sadly enough.Comment -
Mike HuntertzSBR Posting Legend
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#312Depending on the quantity, one can get anything from a sizeable fine to 15 years in prison. Imprisonment is possible after 6 grams of marijuana. It becomes certain after 100 grams. The harshest punishment is reserved for possession of more than 100 kilograms.Originally posted by KVBFor those on the side of the Russian law here thinking Brittney Griner broke the law and deserves her punishment in the foreign country, understand that the vast majority of people caught with this amount of hash oil for personal use cannabis in Russia, at the border even, are fined and expelled from the country immediately.
Brittney Griner’s case was handled differently.
This is why she is considered “wrongfully detained” by the State Department.
They’re treating her as a drug trafficker, a crime against a state, when others with the same offense are simply treated as minor offenders with no jail time.
Russia knew what they were doing, it’s just odd because she’s loved in Russian basketball circles as much as she was in the US, maybe even more.
That’s for possession. One can get life in prison for active participation in the drug trade.
1/4 of Russia’s prison population was convicted for drug-related offenses, primarily for possession of illegal drugs.
The Russkies knew waht they were doing....piss off the USA for arming Ukraine.
The fact it was Griner makes ya wanna believe in Karma.Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#313We know Biden can't, that's for sure.Originally posted by jjgoldTrump will get her out
Come to think about it, what can Biden do?Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#314Well, Viktor Bout is a notorious drugs and arms trafficker. And they want to trade him for Griner.
People think they follow rules and have police integrity in Russia, like in the USA. They don't.Comment -
SnowballBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#315US, Russia to Hold New START Talks in Egypt Starting November 29
Russia's deputy FM says the talks could lead to higher-level negotiations
by Dave DeCamp Posted on November 20, 2022
The US and Russia will hold talks on the last nuclear arms control treaty that remains between the powers, the New START, from November 29 to December 6 in Cairo, Egypt.
The dates were announced by Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov, who suggested Friday that the talks could lead to higher-level negotiations with the US. The State Department said earlier in November that the US and Russia had agreed to hold talks under the bilateral consultative commission (BCC), an implementation body established by the New START.
The New START treaty puts limits on the deployment of warheads, missiles, and bombers and includes an inspection regime. But according to the State Department, the inspections were paused in March 2020 due to Covid-19 and haven’t been resumed since.
The talks in Cairo are expected to be focused on the resumption of inspections. The New START expires in 2026, and there’s currently no agreement for a replacement or any further arms control treaties between the US and Russia.
On another diplomacy front, Ryabkov said that Russia is hoping to reach a prisoner swap deal with the US that would secure the release of Viktor Bout, a Russian arms dealer serving a 25-year sentence in the US. Brittney Griner, the WNBA star serving a drug charge in Russia, could potentially be exchanged for Bout.
“I want to hope that the prospect not only remains but is being strengthened, and that the moment will come when we will get a concrete agreement,” Ryabkov said. “The Americans are showing some external activity, we are working professionally through a special channel designed for this.”
While there’s been an increase in dialogue between the US and Russia, there’s still no sign that there will be any serious peace talks to end the fighting in Ukraine. The Kremlin said Friday that there are also no plans for a meeting between President Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
https://news.antiwar.com/2022/11/20/us-russia-to-hold-new-start-talks-in-egypt-starting-november-29/The US and Russia will hold talks on the last nuclear arms control treaty that remains between the powers, the New START, from November 29 to December 6 in Cairo, Egypt. The dates were announced by Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov, who suggested Friday that the talks could lead…Comment
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