How come no defense anymore NHL

stevex · 05-11-22, 08:36 PM

Teams don’t use the neutral zone trap any longer.

GT21Megatron · 05-11-22, 08:43 PM

The goalies fuking stink!!!

johnnyvegas13 · 05-11-22, 08:44 PM

I don’t see diving on ice to block a shot anymore

jjgold · 05-13-22, 05:15 AM

What a bad product

Teams blowing leads like crazy

Bring back hockey from years past

Four33 · 05-13-22, 07:32 AM

Nah under fest suck

hostile takeover · 05-13-22, 08:43 AM

The refs are calling way more penalties than in the past, leading to more power plays than I can remember... at least in the STL/MINN series.

thetrinity · 05-13-22, 08:45 AM

More penalties, more goalies pulled early

Snowball · 05-13-22, 08:49 AM

The defensemen don't play THE BODY anymore as much as they play THE PUCK.
This is a major flaw in today's game comapred to years past, and how I was taught to play. A lot of times, defensemen are doing nothing but blocking the view of the goaltender, actually making it harder for him to see the puck coming at him. The way I was taught is that you have to take out THE MAN, not let him get stable in front of the net (at ALL COSTS), and check the opponent offense, not just chase after the puck.

lakerboy · 05-13-22, 08:51 AM

Washington blew a 3-0 lead the other day. That was a big unthinkable in the past.

DrunkHorseplayer · 05-13-22, 09:36 AM

Anything beats the garbage of the 90's and 00's when defenders could clutch and grab all day without anything being called and a two goal lead meant the game was over; hockey should make the game four on four.

Fishhead · 05-13-22, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

Anything beats the garbage of the 90's and 00's when defenders could clutch and grab all day without anything being called and a two goal lead meant the game was over; hockey should make the game four on four.

A.................no.

It's fine for regular season OT, that should be the extent of it.

slewfan · 05-13-22, 11:27 AM

Baseball was so successful with harder baseballs, the NHL decided to try harder pucks. These are Made in Japan…… ba- da- boom..

Seriously though, Hockey has become an offensive juggernaut. The speed of defensemen bringing up pucks and getting involved with the offense.. Along with everything else said in the posts here..

Totals at 6.5 for playoff games is insane. I remember the totals at 4.5 for under over. Now, 5.5 seems like a low total….

Stallion · 05-13-22, 11:31 AM

Nobody wants a 2-1 game anymore.

pavyracer · 05-13-22, 11:47 AM

This is the worst goalie generation we ever had. No one wants to play goalie anymore.

DrunkHorseplayer · 05-13-22, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

A.................no.

It's fine for regular season OT, that should be the extent of it.

If it's good enough for OT, it's good enough for regulation; the shooutout needs to be eliminated as well.

hotcross · 05-13-22, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

The defensemen don't play THE BODY anymore as much as they play THE PUCK.
This is a major flaw in today's game comapred to years past, and how I was taught to play. A lot of times, defensemen are doing nothing but blocking the view of the goaltender, actually making it harder for him to see the puck coming at him. The way I was taught is that you have to take out THE MAN, not let him get stable in front of the net (at ALL COSTS), and check the opponent offense, not just chase after the puck.

League initiative to enforce cross-checking penalties went into effect this season. That was a big part of how defenders used to be able to move offensive players away from the front of the net.

Not sure that I've noticed how strict it has been enforced in these playoffs. Maybe defense is already mentally conditioned to not cross-check as much.

jjgold · 05-13-22, 02:56 PM

This is one of the worst playoffs I’ve ever seen but it could get better it’s early

pavyracer · 05-13-22, 06:42 PM

If they don't start saving goals soon it will be a disaster for books. Everyone betting the over regardless of line.

Snowball · 05-13-22, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by hotcross

League initiative to enforce cross-checking penalties went into effect this season. That was a big part of how defenders used to be able to move offensive players away from the front of the net.

Not sure that I've noticed how strict it has been enforced in these playoffs. Maybe defense is already mentally conditioned to not cross-check as much.

??? I'm not talking about cross-checking. That is a penalty. I'm talking about regular body play and straightforward checking.
Cross-checking has always been dirty. There is no reason to elevate your stick with both hands and cross bar into the opponent.

nick1976 · 05-13-22, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Most of the past years in the playoffs it was so hard to score goals now it’s a joke I guess it’s just a cancel culture lazy defense and lazy players

more goals = more ratings

hehfest · 05-13-22, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

The defensemen don't play THE BODY anymore as much as they play THE PUCK.
This is a major flaw in today's game comapred to years past, and how I was taught to play. A lot of times, defensemen are doing nothing but blocking the view of the goaltender, actually making it harder for him to see the puck coming at him. The way I was taught is that you have to take out THE MAN, not let him get stable in front of the net (at ALL COSTS), and check the opponent offense, not just chase after the puck.

Thank you Snowball. I won't answer this anymore because I've now said something similar to you in 4 other threads (as a former player "defenseman" myself).

hehfest · 05-13-22, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

If they don't start saving goals soon it will be a disaster for books. Everyone betting the over regardless of line.

Again, as I've said in other threads a few times....since no more hitting they have to raise the lines to 6.5 as a low and 8.5 as a high line or maybe even 9. Until they do this, then they will get murdered. I'm not sure why they are so slow to react here. I said toward end of the regular season that there were about 130-140 more overs than unders this year.