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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 65558

    #36
    Originally posted by shadymcgrady
    He missed some time during a crucial part of the MVP race where jokic and giannis Gaines ground. Doc, Morey and harden all a part to play but the end result is the end result. History rarely remembers the excuses
    Thanks man, and yeah, you remembered right.

    At +300 that was extreme value.
    It was extreme value at +180. +300 was a gift from the wagering gods.

    Embid was dead money even at -145, it never ends will for him, and never will.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-04-09
      • 48381

      #37
      I'm glad Embiid didn't get it. Dude is 7 feet crying for fouls like his butt buddy Harden. Most guys try to make baskets, these guys try to draw fouls and are ruining the game for me. Fukk him.
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65558

        #38
        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
        I'm glad Embiid didn't get it. Dude is 7 feet crying for fouls like his butt buddy Harden. Most guys try to make baskets, these guys try to draw fouls and are ruining the game for me. Fukk him.

        Not to mention he's a liability handling the ball.
        He's a turnover waiting to happen.
        I've seen Embid throw the ball to the assistant head coach who's sitting on the bench too many times to know he has next to zero when it comes to distribution skills.

        He was fifth in the league in rebounds, a distant fifth.
        Gobert and Jokic were the rebound champs this year, and Jokic was a fraction of a point from winning that title too.
        Embid is an overrated rebounder, not shit, but not this all-great backboard cleaner some make him out to be.

        While Embid did win the scoring title, he won it by default, that crown was Lebron's for the taking but he decided to rest the final games, he even said I don't need this to cement my legacy, my legacy has been sealed years ago.
        James's words, not mine.

        Here's the important part, Embid missed more than half of his field goal attempts.
        That's horrendous for a low post center. Look at the field goal percentages (accuracy) the first 23 are all centers, with a few big power forwards in there, for obvious reasons, they're all low post players, with the exception of Jokic who shoots a lot outside of the lane, and he's still top ten.

        Gobert made almost three out of every four shots he took (71 percent)
        And he's a better defender.
        Embid missed more than half his shots (49 percent)
        Gobert made 22 percent more shots he took than Embid.

        Liars figure, figures don't lie.

        As far a defense goes, ask anybody who covers the NBA for the media, they almost all tell you, Jokic's defense has vastly improved, conversely, they all will tell you pretty much Embid's defense has dropped off.
        There's a reason why Embid did not receive one single DPOY vote of any kind this season.
        It's because he didn't deserve one.
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        • thomorino
          Restricted User
          • 06-01-17
          • 45842

          #39
          Originally posted by stevenash
          Not to mention he's a liability handling the ball.
          He's a turnover waiting to happen.
          I've seen Embid throw the ball to the assistant head coach who's sitting on the bench too many times to know he has next to zero when it comes to distribution skills.

          He was fifth in the league in rebounds, a distant fifth.
          Gobert and Jokic were the rebound champs this year, and Jokic was a fraction of a point from winning that title too.
          Embid is an overrated rebounder, not shit, but not this all-great backboard cleaner some make him out to be.

          While Embid did win the scoring title, he won it by default, that crown was Lebron's for the taking but he decided to rest the final games, he even said I don't need this to cement my legacy, my legacy has been sealed years ago.
          James's words, not mine.

          Here's the important part, Embid missed more than half of his field goal attempts.
          That's horrendous for a low post center. Look at the field goal percentages (accuracy) the first 23 are all centers, with a few big power forwards in there, for obvious reasons, they're all low post players, with the exception of Jokic who shoots a lot outside of the lane, and he's still top ten.

          Gobert made almost three out of every four shots he took (71 percent)
          And he's a better defender.
          Embid missed more than half his shots (49 percent)
          Gobert made 22 percent more shots he took than Embid.

          Liars figure, figures don't lie.

          As far a defense goes, ask anybody who covers the NBA for the media, they almost all tell you, Jokic's defense has vastly improved, conversely, they all will tell you pretty much Embid's defense has dropped off.
          There's a reason why Embid did not receive one single DPOY vote of any kind this season.
          It's because he didn't deserve one.
          This entire post is a lie.

          Embiid averages far more rebounds than Jokic for his career and he's the best ball handling frontline player in the game.

          Just stop.

          Embiid has been an all-defensive team member 3 times, 3. Jokic zero. Embiid protects the entire paint and defends on the perimeter, Jokic does neither.
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 65558

            #40
            Originally posted by thomorino
            This entire post is a lie.
            Since this a discussion thread about the 2022 MVP award it should be painfully obvious to even the dumbest fifth grader that we aren't talking career, we're talking season.

            My question to you is this?
            What grade are you in?

            The more you try to discredit my facts by saying what I post is a lie, just makes you look like even a larger pathological liar.

            Take a look around silly little clown.
            People are pointing at you and laughing, they're mocking you.

            I don't see anyone else trying to discredit what I say.
            You know why?
            Because the posts I post are proven facts.

            The first time you post the truth will be the first time.

            Nice try though.
            Lame effort, but nice try.
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            • Buckandadime
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-21-15
              • 8847

              #41
              Originally posted by thomorino
              Embiid is a far better shooter than Giannis, Giannis is a barely average shooter. Stop.
              Please show us where that is fact..
              The Freak ranked #11 with a .553 shooting % this year while Embiid was #27 @ .499..
              How is Joel a better shooter?
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              • stevenash
                Moderator
                • 01-17-11
                • 65558

                #42
                Originally posted by Buckandadime
                Please show us where that is fact..
                The Freak ranked #11 with a .553 shooting % this year while Embiid was #27 @ .499..
                How is Joel a better shooter?
                That's the very definition of a pathological liar.
                He makes things up, tries to pass off his made-up facts as truth, then gets exposed, by superior data analysts and fact checkers such as myself.

                But wait, it gets better.
                Even after being exposed as the pathological liar that he is, he still demands he's correct.

                Case in point, who remembers that Teddy Bridgewater won ten straight games whopper?
                Like that was going to be so difficult to disprove?
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                • MrSink
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 12-30-08
                  • 8087

                  #43
                  respect jokic . I would give it to embiid this year tough . hard to judge tough , both tremendous team impact . both inches away this year .
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                  • stake1
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-19-18
                    • 18116

                    #44
                    Comparing the two rosters, Jokic works with far less. congrats to him!
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                    • Kermit
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 09-27-10
                      • 32555

                      #45
                      First guy to have 2000 points, 1000 rebounds, and 500 assists in a season. Pretty impressive.
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                      • Yulia74
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-28-18
                        • 1907

                        #46
                        jokic > embid
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82812

                          #47
                          If Jokic had a better coach he would have won by a larger margin.
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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65558

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Yulia74
                            jokic > embid
                            Jokic>Giannis>Embid
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                            • Bcatswin
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-21-10
                              • 13931

                              #49
                              Originally posted by BigJay
                              He’s also better at MVP’s I guess
                              😁😁😁
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                              • thomorino
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                                • 06-01-17
                                • 45842

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                Please show us where that is fact..
                                The Freak ranked #11 with a .553 shooting % this year while Embiid was #27 @ .499..
                                How is Joel a better shooter?
                                Embiid shot 37% from 3 and nearly 80% from the foul line. Just stop.
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                                • thomorino
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 06-01-17
                                  • 45842

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by stevenash

                                  Since this a discussion thread about the 2022 MVP award it should be painfully obvious to even the dumbest fifth grader that we aren't talking career, we're talking season.

                                  My question to you is this?
                                  What grade are you in?

                                  The more you try to discredit my facts by saying what I post is a lie, just makes you look like even a larger pathological liar.

                                  Take a look around silly little clown.
                                  People are pointing at you and laughing, they're mocking you.

                                  I don't see anyone else trying to discredit what I say.
                                  You know why?
                                  Because the posts I post are proven facts.

                                  The first time you post the truth will be the first time.

                                  Nice try though.
                                  Lame effort, but nice try.
                                  Originally posted by stevenash

                                  That's the very definition of a pathological liar.
                                  He makes things up, tries to pass off his made-up facts as truth, then gets exposed, by superior data analysts and fact checkers such as myself.

                                  But wait, it gets better.
                                  Even after being exposed as the pathological liar that he is, he still demands he's correct.

                                  Case in point, who remembers that Teddy Bridgewater won ten straight games whopper?
                                  Like that was going to be so difficult to disprove?
                                  Everything you post is a lie. You even got caught posting fake lines.

                                  Embiid is a 3 time all-defensive player and he shot 37% from 3 this year. Stop talking, you are a proven liar.
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                                  • Buckandadime
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-21-15
                                    • 8847

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by thomorino
                                    Embiid shot 37% from 3 and nearly 80% from the foul line. Just stop.
                                    Nearly 80% free throws...
                                    What does that have to do with being a better shooter than Giannis?
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                                    • thomorino
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                                      • 06-01-17
                                      • 45842

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                      Nearly 80% free throws...
                                      What does that have to do with being a better shooter than Giannis?
                                      Giannis shoots under 70% from the foul line for his career. Just stop.
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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65558

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by thomorino
                                        Everything you post is a lie. You even got caught posting fake lines.

                                        Embiid is a 3 time all-defensive player and he shot 37% from 3 this year. Stop talking, you are a proven liar.
                                        Nice try, doesn't work.
                                        Just stop, who caught me in a lie, when was it, what were the details.

                                        Too funny.
                                        A pathological liar calling out the man with perfect integrity.
                                        You can't make this shit up.

                                        Wow, how tilted are you?
                                        You're reaching now clown
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                                        • thomorino
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                                          • 06-01-17
                                          • 45842

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                          Nice try, doesn't work.
                                          Just stop, who caught me in a lie, when was it, what were the details.

                                          Too funny.
                                          A pathological liar calling out the man with perfect integrity.
                                          You can't make this shit up.

                                          Wow, how tilted are you?
                                          You're reaching now clown
                                          You were caught posting fake lines - you got so angry to. Your little mans syndrome was off the chart.
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                                          • Buckandadime
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-21-15
                                            • 8847

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                            Giannis shoots under 70% from the foul line for his career. Just stop.
                                            More misinformation...
                                            Why do you lie so much?
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                                            • thomorino
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 06-01-17
                                              • 45842

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                              More misinformation...
                                              Why do you lie so much?
                                              I'll talk very slowly so you can try and follow. Foul shooting is part of shooting in the game of basketball. Embiid is a far better foul shooter than Giannis and he's a far better shooter overall. Stop talking. You are a liar.
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                                              • Buckandadime
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-21-15
                                                • 8847

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                I'll talk very slowly so you can try and follow. Foul shooting is part of shooting in the game of basketball. Embiid is a far better foul shooter than Giannis and he's a far better shooter overall. Stop talking. You are a liar.
                                                Embiid 81% career ft
                                                Jokic 83% career ft
                                                Now, talk slower asshat so you can understand facts.

                                                Giannis shoots 71% not <70 like you spouted.
                                                You are wrong asshat
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65558

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                                  You were caught posting fake lines - you got so angry to. Your little mans syndrome was off the chart.
                                                  When?
                                                  What were the details?
                                                  I'll leave here for good if you can prove it.
                                                  If you can't, you leave for good.

                                                  Care to take that bet?
                                                  That's how confident I am that it never happened.

                                                  If you don't take the bet it's because you made that up, and you're a coward.

                                                  Put up or shut up time.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65558

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                    Embiid 81% career ft
                                                    Jokic 83% career ft
                                                    Now, talk slower asshat so you can understand facts.

                                                    Giannis shoots 71% not <70 like you spouted.
                                                    You are wrong asshat
                                                    My God, have you ever seen a guy get owned from completely different angles at the same time before?
                                                    He's not only a pathological liar, a sociopath, toss in masochist as well.
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                                                    • thomorino
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                                                      • 06-01-17
                                                      • 45842

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                      Embiid 81% career ft
                                                      Jokic 83% career ft
                                                      Now, talk slower asshat so you can understand facts.

                                                      Giannis shoots 71% not <70 like you spouted.
                                                      You are wrong asshat
                                                      Embiid is a far better shooter than GIannis as I said, stop talking.
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                                                      • thomorino
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-01-17
                                                        • 45842

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        When?
                                                        What were the details?
                                                        I'll leave here for good if you can prove it.
                                                        If you can't, you leave for good.

                                                        Care to take that bet?
                                                        That's how confident I am that it never happened.

                                                        If you don't take the bet it's because you made that up, and you're a coward.

                                                        Put up or shut up time.
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash

                                                        My God, have you ever seen a guy get owned from completely different angles at the same time before?
                                                        He's not only a pathological liar, a sociopath, toss in masochist as well.
                                                        You've been caught lying multiple times. Just stop.
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                                                        • Buckandadime
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 04-21-15
                                                          • 8847

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          My God, have you ever seen a guy get owned from completely different angles at the same time before?
                                                          He's not only a pathological liar, a sociopath, toss in masochist as well.
                                                          I couldn't look at myself..
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                                                          • CJ
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-21-13
                                                            • 1261

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                                            2 tools.
                                                            You are such a little pussy.
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                                                            • CJ
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-21-13
                                                              • 1261

                                                              #65
                                                              Seriously MORONO, this isn't your topic as you always say, go post in your own little "look at me" shitfest and let the adults talk here.

                                                              Or better yet, can somone please doxxx this little roosterlicker? OML I will go to the cardboard box he lives in and break every bone in both of his hands into such tiny pieces he'll never type again.
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65558

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                You've been caught lying multiple times. Just stop.
                                                                Take the bet coward.
                                                                Show me poof, you claim to be an attorney (another one of your pathological lie) the onus is on you to prove it.
                                                                Can you?
                                                                If not, you're a coward and a liar.

                                                                Give it up, every trick in your book you've tried to put me on tilt, dude, I'm Teflon, doesn't stick.
                                                                Not only that, nobody believes you.

                                                                Nice try again, lame, but nice try.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65558

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                                  I couldn't look at myself..
                                                                  Not only does his words not bother me, he's going to get banned.
                                                                  And I'll take that bet.
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                                                                  • Headsterx
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-03-16
                                                                    • 22993

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    That's the stupidest take on anything ever posted here.

                                                                    😂😂😂
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                                                                    • thomorino
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 06-01-17
                                                                      • 45842

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Buckandadime

                                                                      I couldn't look at myself..
                                                                      Originally posted by CJ

                                                                      You are such a little pussy.
                                                                      Originally posted by CJ
                                                                      Seriously MORONO, this isn't your topic as you always say, go post in your own little "look at me" shitfest and let the adults talk here.

                                                                      Or better yet, can somone please doxxx this little roosterlicker? OML I will go to the cardboard box he lives in and break every bone in both of his hands into such tiny pieces he'll never type again.
                                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                      Take the bet coward.
                                                                      Show me poof, you claim to be an attorney (another one of your pathological lie) the onus is on you to prove it.
                                                                      Can you?
                                                                      If not, you're a coward and a liar.

                                                                      Give it up, every trick in your book you've tried to put me on tilt, dude, I'm Teflon, doesn't stick.
                                                                      Not only that, nobody believes you.

                                                                      Nice try again, lame, but nice try.
                                                                      Originally posted by Headsterx

                                                                      
                                                                      The same tools in every one of my threads or responding to my comments.
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                                                                      • thomorino
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 06-01-17
                                                                        • 45842

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                        Not only does his words not bother me, he's going to get banned.
                                                                        And I'll take that bet.
                                                                        do not does - a real writer would know that. Stop talking.
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