Aaron Donald the best defense player EVER?

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  • OldBill
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    • 11-02-21
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    #36
    heres another MO FO beast no body mentioned won with two differnt teams 49ers and Cowboys Charles Haley
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    • thomorino
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      • 06-01-17
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      #37
      No, he's not on Lawrence Taylor's level. The tight end position exists because Lawrence Taylor couldn't be blocked normally.
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      • Goat Milk
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        • 03-24-10
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        #38
        Donald is up there, top 5, can make a case for a lot of guys. Ray Lewis, Lawrence, Woodson, Deion
        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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        • shadymcgrady
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          • 02-27-12
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          #39
          He's the best there is since Ray Lewis but not a top 5 yet. Ronnie Lott and Lawrence Taylor are the gold standards
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          • dark star
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            • 01-04-09
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            #40
            Originally posted by lakerboy
            Average. Richard Dent was better
            Funny.....very funny
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            • thinwhiteduke
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              • 10-10-21
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              #41
              Lololol being best at running forward into another person.
              Who cares?
              And he isn't anyway
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              • Doublethink
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                • 05-21-21
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                #42
                Dick Butkus enof said. Monsters of the midway.
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                • Doublethink
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                  • 05-21-21
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                  #43
                  Who here is old enough to remember the Purple People Eaters - Wikipedia?
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                  • clockwise1965
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                    • 10-01-13
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                    #44
                    Top 10 for sure but not the best of all time. Imo.
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                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                      • 04-04-11
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                      #45
                      Here is my starting Defensive 11 w/ a few asterisks:

                      1) From the Super Bowl era. So, excluding guys like Chuck Bednarik and Night Train Lane.
                      2) Excluding active players. B/c their careers have not yet been completed.
                      3) Assuming 4-3 Base defense.

                      DE - Reggie White
                      DT - Bob Lilly
                      DT - Joe Greene
                      DE - Bruce Smith

                      OLB (rush) - Lawrence Taylor
                      MLB - Dick Butkus
                      OLB (coverage) - Jack Ham

                      CB - Mel Blount
                      S - Ed Reed
                      S - Ronnie Lott
                      CB - Herb Adderley

                      Commentary:
                      *I think the Def Ends are pretty easy. Smith is the all-time NFL SACK LEADER. If you include Reggie's USFL sacks...he pushes past Bruce.
                      *Re: Defensive Tackles, Alan Page rates amazingly high. He somehow won the LEAGUE MVP as a Def Tackle. Imagine a Defensive Tackle doing that today. I don't want this to sound like a shot on the Purple People Eaters...but the Chiefs/Steelers/Raiders/Dolphins figured out a way to block them by using their aggression against them.
                      *I think Joe Greene is an easy choice at DT. Unusual athleticism for a big-man. Changed the game with his cat-quick moves.

                      *CB: Have to give bonus points to guy like Blount. So physical that they had to change the rules to prevent WRs from getting mugged.
                      *On the 2nd CB, I hate Deion, just a personal bias. Adderley was an excellent DB. A good representative from a fine defense.

                      *Love my safety tandem. Top bill-collector in Ronnie Lott. Top playmaker in Ed Reed.
                      *Was tempted to list John Lynch b/c of his great instincts. Think Lott/Reed were slightly better.
                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                      • 19th Hole
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                        • 03-22-09
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                        Here is my starting Defensive 11 w/ a few asterisks:

                        1) From the Super Bowl era. So, excluding guys like Chuck Bednarik and Night Train Lane.
                        2) Excluding active players. B/c their careers have not yet been completed.
                        3) Assuming 4-3 Base defense.

                        DE - Reggie White
                        DT - Bob Lilly
                        DT - Joe Greene
                        DE - Bruce Smith

                        OLB (rush) - Lawrence Taylor
                        MLB - Dick Butkus
                        OLB (coverage) - Jack Ham

                        CB - Mel Blount
                        S - Ed Reed
                        S - Ronnie Lott
                        CB - Herb Adderley

                        Commentary:
                        *I think the Def Ends are pretty easy. Smith is the all-time NFL SACK LEADER. If you include Reggie's USFL sacks...he pushes past Bruce.
                        *Re: Defensive Tackles, Alan Page rates amazingly high. He somehow won the LEAGUE MVP as a Def Tackle. Imagine a Defensive Tackle doing that today. I don't want this to sound like a shot on the Purple People Eaters...but the Chiefs/Steelers/Raiders/Dolphins figured out a way to block them by using their aggression against them.
                        *I think Joe Greene is an easy choice at DT. Unusual athleticism for a big-man. Changed the game with his cat-quick moves.

                        *CB: Have to give bonus points to guy like Blount. So physical that they had to change the rules to prevent WRs from getting mugged.
                        *On the 2nd CB, I hate Deion, just a personal bias. Adderley was an excellent DB. A good representative from a fine defense.

                        *Love my safety tandem. Top bill-collector in Ronnie Lott. Top playmaker in Ed Reed.
                        *Was tempted to list John Lynch b/c of his great instincts. Think Lott/Reed were slightly better.

                        ~~~
                        Chucky~
                        Thank you...Excellent List.
                        Love your Adderly inclusion.
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                        • Doublethink
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                          • 05-21-21
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                          #47
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                          • gauchojake
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                            • 09-17-10
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                            #48
                            Highest paid non QB

                            Let's RAM IT
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                            • BigJay
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                              • 01-14-12
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                              #49
                              How do the Rams keep paying so many huge guaranteed deals year after year and stay under the cap?
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                              • lakerboy
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                                • 04-02-09
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by BigJay
                                How do the Rams keep paying so many huge guaranteed deals year after year and stay under the cap?
                                California man. Come on now
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                                • Mike Huntertz
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                                  • 08-19-09
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                                  He's already in the Ronnie Lott stratosphere
                                  Lott is my pick!
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                                  • TheMoneyShot
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                                    • 02-14-07
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                                    #52
                                    Not the best ever. I really don't believe he's all that. So he was on a Super Bowl team.... big deal. I've seen him take games off before. Non existent. You never heard LT take a game off before or even Reggie White. Donald overrated.
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                                    • Stallion
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                                      • 03-21-10
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                                      #53
                                      Top 10 defensive player ever.
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                                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                        • 03-11-11
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                                        #54
                                        Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White and Bruce Smith were the best in my view.

                                        Not sure Donald is in the top 5 or even top 10 all time, yet. You can argue some other defensive tackles were better and more disruptive than him.
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                                        • gauchojake
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by BigJay
                                          How do the Rams keep paying so many huge guaranteed deals year after year and stay under the cap?
                                          They are by far the best run franchise in the NFL. The Donald deal actually freed up cap money for this year 😂
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            • 03-11-11
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by gauchojake
                                            They are by far the best run franchise in the NFL. The Donald deal actually freed up cap money for this year 
                                            Boy you are really drinking the koolaid, gaucher
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                                            • gauchojake
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                              Boy you are really drinking the koolaid, gaucher
                                              Other than maybe the Patriots, who is better? They manage the cap well, make big moves, have won their division 3/5 years, been to two Superbowls and won 1, winning record past 5 years and the only year they missed the playoffs was basically due to a missed field goal.

                                              You don't hear any crazy shit with their players and McVay gets all his assistants promoted. Classy org all the way around.

                                              Oh and they pay their players.
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                                              • wombat
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                                                #58
                                                Best ever? Not even close. Maybe if you been watching football only for the last 5 years.
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                                                • jackpot269
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                                                  • 09-24-07
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                  Deion Sanders the goat
                                                  Great cover guy but would not help with run support
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                                                  • edawg
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                                                    #60
                                                    LT
                                                    Dieken
                                                    Reggie White
                                                    Dick Butkus
                                                    Ed Reed
                                                    Joe Greene
                                                    Primetime
                                                    Gino Marchetti
                                                    Night train
                                                    Bruce Smith
                                                    Lambert
                                                    Derrick Thomas
                                                    Lott
                                                    Blount
                                                    Bell
                                                    and that is just one minute off the top of my head honestly wouldn't even put him ahead of Sapp. He might not even be in the top 50.
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                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                      Other than maybe the Patriots, who is better? They manage the cap well, make big moves, have won their division 3/5 years, been to two Superbowls and won 1, winning record past 5 years and the only year they missed the playoffs was basically due to a missed field goal.

                                                      You don't hear any crazy shit with their players and McVay gets all his assistants promoted. Classy org all the way around.

                                                      Oh and they pay their players.
                                                      Patriots, Ravens and Steelers come to mind. They're pretty much always contenders for the playoffs...we are talking decades of success here.
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                                                      • MiDNiTe
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                                                        • 11-11-13
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                                                        #62
                                                        Guessing no chance they sign Beckham now?
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                                                        • OldBill
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                                                          • 11-02-21
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                                                          #63
                                                          RONNIE LOTT i remember posters of him in his stance QUOTE " Not graduating HS and coming out into life is like facing me"
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