How Will Books Survive With Pinnacle Odds?

**jjgold** · 02-12-22, 06:59 AM

Why should pinnacle be odds provider for 90% of books and free?

I am glad they did this

**lakerboy** · 02-12-22, 10:36 AM

I'm seeing a feed on sbrodds

**Brock Landers** · 02-12-22, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Why should pinnacle be odds provider for 90% of books and free?

I am glad they did this

Circa originates lines now, so far as I can tell

**jjgold** · 02-12-22, 11:05 AM

Circa does not have the volume like pinnacle not even close

Pinnacle has agents all over USA and across globe and extensive brokerage business

**RonPaul2008** · 02-12-22, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

Circa originates lines now, so far as I can tell

Nah. Most of the time it's Betonline.

**TheMoneyShot** · 02-12-22, 11:22 AM

Someone will eventually figure this out.... sky isn't falling yet.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 02-12-22, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Someone will eventually figure this out.... sky isn't falling yet.

Shot, see if you can figure out a way to beat the timing.

We can split the profits. I'll send you a Dime to get us started.

**jjgold** · 02-12-22, 01:13 PM

Fandual post lines most usa sports faster than anyone in world

They book

It’s why biggest place and zero competitors

**Frank** · 02-12-22, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

Circa originates lines now, so far as I can tell

Not in College basketball.

They are like 5th up just in Vegas alone.

They are like last in cbb 2hs.

Maybe in football but they are a far cry from originating in hoops.

**jjgold** · 02-12-22, 04:56 PM

Circa not an originator

They stare at offshore lines

Lol

**Brock Landers** · 02-12-22, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Circa not an originator

They stare at offshore lines

Lol

Not true on college football. They originate those lines weekly

**jjgold** · 02-12-22, 05:52 PM

Pinnacle will always be king

**TheMoneyShot** · 02-12-22, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Shot, see if you can figure out a way to beat the timing.

We can split the profits. I'll send you a Dime to get us started.

Let's go into business Chucky lol get this party started!

**jjgold** · 02-12-22, 08:11 PM

Need Pinny line feed bad

I am
Lost

**CanuckG** · 02-12-22, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Pinnacle will always be king

Lol

**Fishhead** · 02-12-22, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

people fukked

don best fukked

how can they ask for that outrageous monthly fee now

totally worthless

god you're clueless

**Fishhead** · 02-12-22, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

Circa originates lines now, so far as I can tell

Take JJ under your wing and teach the guy a thing or two.....................

**Optional** · 02-13-22, 06:11 AM

Circa does claim to open College Football lines first.

Decent article here from Circa about openers and setting them https://www.circalasvegas.com/blog/s...s-perspective/

**jjgold** · 02-13-22, 06:15 AM

Circa lol
Limited betting community so means nothing

True sharp lines are books that cater to everyone on globe

Some off screen credit outs sharper than most

**Optional** · 02-13-22, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Circa lol
Limited betting community so means nothing

True sharp lines are books that cater to everyone on globe

Some off screen credit outs sharper than most

Circa do say most lines still set first offshore.

**green88** · 02-13-22, 06:20 AM

i feel same. i have pinnacle account though so i log in and check and compare and figure out pinny leans. btw this year their leans have sucked, like yesterday alabama -5.5 when most other 4.5 but anyway its helpful. just a real pain to compare from pinnacle site to db to get the layout of the land :/

**comet52** · 02-14-22, 11:20 AM

Pinnacle odds are gone from Wagertalk. Also I can't get the popup line histories for any book to come up any more. Not sure if it's a glitch or if they took them down.

**theGunner** · 02-14-22, 11:23 AM

Pinnacle missing already

**loser711** · 02-14-22, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by comet52

Pinnacle odds are gone from Wagertalk. Also I can't get the popup line histories for any book to come up any more. Not sure if it's a glitch or if they took them down.

poor ole wager talk, I sent them a dirty e about pinnacle. pop up history working fine for me.

**jjgold** · 02-14-22, 12:31 PM

They are shutting all down

Any lines posted are not real time

**loser711** · 02-14-22, 12:38 PM

Wager talk definitely not real time. They catch up when lines are not moving, late morning-mid-day, are fairly accurate w the Vegas books, but offshore lines are off more often than not.

**d2bets** · 02-14-22, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by loser711

Wager talk definitely not real time. They catch up when lines are not moving, late morning-mid-day, are fairly accurate w the Vegas books, but offshore lines are off more often than not.

They're 2-3 minutes delayed. Pinny and BM are basically off-screen now, but others are updated with a 2-3 minute delay.

**slapshot** · 02-14-22, 03:07 PM

pinnacle lines are available for me (not based in the US) on both sbr and bookmakersreview but the closing lines aren't recorded accurate.

i can tell because being logged in on pinnacle while watching sbr and bookmakersreview....the closing lines aren't replicated correctly....all the time.

pinney isn't available on wagertalk now.....that service got the closing lines accurate all the time.

madduxsports and covers are incorrect....don best gone.

are there any other services out there?

**jjgold** · 02-14-22, 04:03 PM

Nope

**d2bets** · 02-14-22, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by slapshot

pinnacle lines are available for me (not based in the US) on both sbr and bookmakersreview but the closing lines aren't recorded accurate.

i can tell because being logged in on pinnacle while watching sbr and bookmakersreview....the closing lines aren't replicated correctly....all the time.

pinney isn't available on wagertalk now.....that service got the closing lines accurate all the time.

madduxsports and covers are incorrect....don best gone.

are there any other services out there?

Wow. I just realized SBR has Pinnacle. If you're logged into Pinnacle and watching SBR, how many minutes delayed are the current Pinnacle odds?

And now I go back to SBRodds and I don't see Pinnacle. So confused.

**texhooper** · 02-14-22, 04:23 PM

D2 it probably took one view to figure out you’re in the US. If you are in fact in the US

**slapshot** · 02-14-22, 04:41 PM

the delay varies....from 30 sec to 2 minutes...haven't seen any longer delay than 120 sec.

**gauchojake** · 02-15-22, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Wow. I just realized SBR has Pinnacle. If you're logged into Pinnacle and watching SBR, how many minutes delayed are the current Pinnacle odds?

And now I go back to SBRodds and I don't see Pinnacle. So confused.

log in from a non usa ip and you will see pinny at sbrodds