Caesars Seven Stars via Sportsbetting?

[StackinGreen]

I got there in about 5 weeks.

I believe it's like 5:1 (based on potential win) so that would be 750k play.

Even though I'm almost exclusively a sports player, I dabble in slots or once in a while, a couple table games. They make that p/l sheet for you as a .pdf at the end of the year for most games, but I don't think they include sports winnings/losses on their, do they d2? I didn't notice it last year when I checked.

Yes, the math I did was about 41 2k bets/month at -130

I just picked that for fun since I hit a fav the other night at that price for a couple Gs

ps - Yes, I ran more numbers, it is closer to risking a total of 825k if you are betting just -110 wagers. Wow.

[d2bets]

Even though I'm almost exclusively a sports player, I dabble in slots or once in a while, a couple table games. They make that p/l sheet for you as a .pdf at the end of the year for most games, but I don't think they include sports winnings/losses on their, do they d2? I didn't notice it last year when I checked.

Yes, the math I did was about 41 2k bets/month at -130

I just picked that for fun since I hit a fav the other night at that price for a couple Gs

ps - Yes, I ran more numbers, it is closer to risking a total of 825k if you are betting just -110 wagers. Wow.

I used the "old Caesars" last year. I asked for and received a p/l sheet pdf. The app itself (kinda sucks) doesn't have that function.

825k is not hard when you are liquid and arbing.

[StackinGreen]

825k is not hard when you are liquid and arbing.

I do not deny this, and I see that you are a live bettor. I am as well, but not as much or as big, unless I'm late to a game. Is the p/l for sports separate? I didn't see it on my account (through the site) when I logged in.

I was thinking about seven stars, and betting that much to get it - if it's easy for you to achieve, by all means, you go there. But with Laurel lounges the Diamond seemed best on all levels, considering you don't have to extend yourself for 7 stars if you aren't trying to force action. The problem is that they took away a lot of those lounges (free food etc). What's the best perk to seven stars? It's nice but I don't even see it being that huge. I don't even think you get free drinks, which I find crazy even with diamond ...

[d2bets]

I do not deny this, and I see that you are a live bettor. I am as well, but not as much or as big, unless I'm late to a game. Is the p/l for sports separate? I didn't see it on my account (through the site) when I logged in.

I was thinking about seven stars, and betting that much to get it - if it's easy for you to achieve, by all means, you go there. But with Laurel lounges the Diamond seemed best on all levels, considering you don't have to extend yourself for 7 stars if you aren't trying to force action. The problem is that they took away a lot of those lounges (free food etc). What's the best perk to seven stars? It's nice but I don't even see it being that huge. I don't even think you get free drinks, which I find crazy even with diamond ...

My first year, so I don't know about p/l statement.

Seven Stars is cool if you can actually use all the benefits:
- Annual retreat -- 4 nights free room, $1,200 airfare, $500 folio
- $500 annual celebration dinner credits
- Norwegian cruise
- Comp stay Atlantis Bahamas
- Annual signature events
- Signature experiences -- figure $500 extra per 250k
- And then you also have your normal rewards credits 150k worth $1,500
- 2 free nights Caesars Palace Dubai
- I think there's also free golf rounds

So 150k credits seven stars probably can get you like close to $10k rewards if you can actually use them all.
And it's based on the "win" amount. I think I found a new strategy with some nice + odds betting. 16 experience credits gets you WSOP entry and free suite. That might be tough to get to though lol.

[ThaWoj]

I am a mega degen action junkie with no bankroll and I went from bottom of the barrel like 0 tier credits gold to diamond plus in maybe a month and a half?

And thats with my action being split almost 50/50 with betmgm and some dabbling on fanduel, DK, rivers and barstool..and heritage.
(We have 1 other book wynnbet but I cannot win on there and the promos suck)

If I had a roll and put 100% of my action on caesaes I could make 7 stars this year.

Probably helps that I bet tons of parlays and dogs, specifically tennis.

Also in case it hasnt been mentioned mgm will tier match to gold from diamond. The Beau in Biloxi said they stopped matching to platinum from 7 stars not sure why. Noir is invite only.

[d2bets]

I am a mega degen action junkie with no bankroll and I went from bottom of the barrel like 0 tier credits gold to diamond plus in maybe a month and a half?

And thats with my action being split almost 50/50 with betmgm and some dabbling on fanduel, DK, rivers and barstool..and heritage.
(We have 1 other book wynnbet but I cannot win on there and the promos suck)

If I had a roll and put 100% of my action on caesaes I could make 7 stars this year.

Probably helps that I bet tons of parlays and dogs, specifically tennis.

Also in case it hasnt been mentioned mgm will tier match to gold from diamond. The Beau in Biloxi said they stopped matching to platinum from 7 stars not sure why. Noir is invite only.

Seven Stars is easier to get than PMGM Platinum IMO. Maybe that's why. Fukkin MGM cut me off within 5% of getting to Platinum. Now I have to scratch and claw to get there. Azzholes.

Yeah, dogs get you points much faster because points are based on win amount not risk. $10 bet at +1000 gets you the same as $1,000 at -1000.

[ThaWoj]

Seven Stars is easier to get than PMGM Platinum IMO. Maybe that's why. Fukkin MGM cut me off within 5% of getting to Platinum. Now I have to scratch and claw to get there. Azzholes.

Yeah, dogs get you points much faster because points are based on win amount not risk. $10 bet at +1000 gets you the same as $1,000 at -1000.

Gold doesn't get you much anyways. According to website for the beau gold is supposed to give perks like priority buffet and cashier line but it doesn't. I was just there. The only thing you get is priorty hotel line but the line is never long, anyone who gets the mlife cc gets the same perk, and now with mobile check in you dont even have to go to the desk. Gold supposedly earns points faster and you get to spend more comps thats about it. Not sure about the supposed room upgrade. The $100 dinner you dont even get unless you make gold from tier credits...not tier matching or some other way.


Noir is really what you want but at least platinum gives you some good stuff.

[jjgold]

Most people that get perks at sports books are losers so there’s no advantage

[DJK]

Noir is really what you want but at least platinum gives you some good stuff.

I was playing 1-3 poker at Borgata and one of the players had a Noir player card.

He tells me one of his friend lost over $400,000 so far this year and yet MGM won't make him a Noir player. How is that even possible?

I'm beginning to think that if that guy who lost 400K won it instead, then maybe they made him a Noir.

[DJK]

By the way, I asked the guy who was a Noir what he played and he said slots.

He showed me several pictures on his phone of his slot winnings that are $100K+ each, so I asked him what he was spinning on average and he tells me only $10.

He is a Noir because he took a lot of MGM's money and MGM wants them back making him a Noir.

[d2bets]

Most people that get perks at sports books are losers so there’s no advantage

Most people are losers, period. But winners can get perks just like losers. Caesars is just based on amount of playing, regardless of winning or losing. I suspect MGM Noir is reserved for big losers.

[DJK]

Most people are losers, period. But winners can get perks just like losers. Caesars is just based on amount of playing, regardless of winning or losing. I suspect MGM Noir is reserved for big losers.

Or, big winners since they want their money back.

I met a woman who won 200K playing blackjack in one night at Bally's before it was sold by CET and CET made her 7 Stars. Of course, she went onto to lose it all in the subsequent months; something like 3 to 4 months. I would have lasted longer than that with 200K.

[d2bets]

Or, big winners since they want their money back.

I met a woman who won 200K playing blackjack in one night at Bally's before it was sold by CET and CET made her 7 Stars. Of course, she went onto to lose it all in the subsequent months; something like 3 to 4 months. I would have lasted longer than that with 200K.

I suppose that's possible, depends on some different factors. If she won 200k playing blackjack in one night, she was probably wagering quite a lot and earned it. 7 Stars is pretty rote, if you play enough you get it, win or lose. MHM Noir is true invite-only and I doubt they invite true long-term winners.

[DJK]

This reminded of a man I met in Hilton casino back in 2005 while playing $100 minimum blackjack in the high roller pit and he was even worse.

He lost 100K playing $100 minimum blackjack and the casino gave him a limo ride back to his NY home to get more cash. So, he brought back 50K with him and he grinded out for 12 hours to get all his losses back plus about 10K winnings.

I have this theory that if you lose big and lucky enough to get them back, then you QUIT for the session and look for another day to play.

He didn't, he was joking with his young son and started to goofing around playing $100 a hand telling his son that if he lost the winnings then he would quit. Then, the really bad losses started and it was just horrible how many hands he was losing in a row.

The next thing you know, the 5K bets (table maximum at the time) started to come and in a very short time he was DONE losing all $150K.

I felt so bad for his son since he was practically begging his dad to stop and he just wouldn't until he lost it all.

The fact that the man had practically no sleep for that whole duration absolutely did not help. Maybe he slept in the limo ride, but who can sleep when you just lost 100K?

[DJK]

I suppose that's possible, depends on some different factors. If she won 200k playing blackjack in one night, she was probably wagering quite a lot and earned it. 7 Stars is pretty rote, if you play enough you get it, win or lose. MHM Noir is true invite-only and I doubt they invite true long-term winners.

She did tell me she was betting the table max but she said it didn't take her long hours to win that amount as she said she just couldn't lose that day. I didn't ask her how many hours she played, but I just don't see how she could have accumulated 150K tier points in one day to become a 7 Star. She said she was really surprised that they made her 7 Star player, but that didn't work out for her as she gave it all back with that free hotel room for any day thing.

I play a lot of casino games in Atlantic City and I've seen some crazy swings of people winning and losing (mostly losing) a ton of money like tens thousands in a matter of single round of blackjack hands. Somethings I just can't forget.

Earlier this year at Hard Rock while I was playing $100 blackjack, I saw a guy getting a marker for only $2,500 on the next table and he was by himself. On his VERY FIRST bet, he bet $250 on the hand and $50 on the Lucky Ladies bonus. He freaking got two queen of hearts with the dealer blackjack winning $50,000 just like that. He could not have been any luckier than that as he had to cut the shoe at that exact point to get the win (it's only 1 out of 312 shot, so it isn't completely impossible). He went nuts and ran around the pit yelling and screaming.

That bonus bet's maximum is $200. Imagine if he bet $200 instead of $50. He would have won $200,000 just like that.

[d2bets]

This reminded of a man I met in Hilton casino back in 2005 while playing $100 minimum blackjack in the high roller pit and he was even worse.

He lost 100K playing $100 minimum blackjack and the casino gave him a limo ride back to his NY home to get more cash. So, he brought back 50K with him and he grinded out for 12 hours to get all his losses back plus about 10K winnings.

I have this theory that if you lose big and lucky enough to get them back, then you QUIT for the session and look for another day to play.

He didn't, he was joking with his young son and started to goofing around playing $100 a hand telling his son that if he lost the winnings then he would quit. Then, the really bad losses started and it was just horrible how many hands he was losing in a row.

The next thing you know, the 5K bets (table maximum at the time) started to come and in a very short time he was DONE losing all $150K.

I felt so bad for his son since he was practically begging his dad to stop and he just wouldn't until he lost it all.

The fact that the man had practically no sleep for that whole duration absolutely did not help. Maybe he slept in the limo ride, but who can sleep when you just lost 100K?

There is no way he lost 100k betting $100 a hand. I know you said minimum, but I'm not sure why.

As for the losses, it's all relative. $150k to some people is a rounding error. To others, it's life changing.

Quitting and looking for another day is meaningless. Aside from card-counting and advantage play, there is no pattern or money management that makes anything different one day to the next. It only seems like it. Just that unless you are betting with an advantage, the house of course has the edge, so the more you play the more likely you are to lose. Just the way it is.

[DJK]

There is no way he lost 100k betting $100 a hand. I know you said minimum, but I'm not sure why.

I meant he was playing at a $100 minimum table when I said "playing $100 minimum blackjack" and not that he was betting $100 minimum at all times.

He was pressing and varying his bet amounts, but the most of his losses came when he started losing badly and he started to chase with the table max bets and doing 2 to 3 hands of table max bets. It doesn't take long doing that to lose 100K. None of what he tried worked when he started losing and it didn't take him long to lose the first 100K and then another 160K since he broke even and was up 10K.

But, he was in control not going crazy when he got 100K back with his next 50K. He did bet max bets here and there when he was winning and not when he was losing.

It's like the Martingale betting in baccarat. I've seen so many people get crushed to the tone of tens thousands if not more when a long banker or player run comes and that makes absolutely no sense as I win when long runs come.

[DJK]

By the way, d2bets, how come you don't post what you are betting on?

From what I can tell, you are one of the winning high rollers on SBR besides biggie12 and some others and I was hoping to tail you if you posted.

[d2bets]

By the way, d2bets, how come you don't post what you are betting on?

From what I can tell, you are one of the winning high rollers on SBR besides biggie12 and some others and I was hoping to tail you if you posted.

Because I mostly bet live and some other off-market type stuff. I can't win betting market lines into major markets. God bless anyone who can.

[ThaWoj]

There is no way he lost 100k betting $100 a hand. I know you said minimum, but I'm not sure why.

As for the losses, it's all relative. $150k to some people is a rounding error. To others, it's life changing.

Quitting and looking for another day is meaningless. Aside from card-counting and advantage play, there is no pattern or money management that makes anything different one day to the next. It only seems like it. Just that unless you are betting with an advantage, the house of course has the edge, so the more you play the more likely you are to lose. Just the way it is.

I disagree with this. Ive had a lot of sessions where tilt and lack of sleep would definitely be a factor...leading to bad or hasty decisions. Also other people at the table would factor as well. Certain dealers (mindset wise)..another day could definitely make a difference. Sometimes a simple nap. Of course I dont follow any of this and usually end up getting punished.