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  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    Browns don't take orders from LeBron
    Beckham is done.
  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #2
    Probably cut today. He can thank his two dads
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    • Kermit
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 09-27-10
      • 32555

      #3
      Browns did better without him last year. He hasn't been good since 2016.

      All I see him doing is dropping passes.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Yep

        Team cancer


        Laker a funny guy 😂
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        • mjsuax13
          Moderator
          • 03-14-15
          • 25115

          #5
          OBJ is a joke. Guy made one crazy catch and has mostly trash stats from Eli Manning garbage time. Cut him.
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          • lonegambler23
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-22-16
            • 9760

            #6
            obj to vegas
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Originally posted by mjsuax13
              OBJ is a joke. Guy made one crazy catch and has mostly trash stats from Eli Manning garbage time. Cut him.
              good point
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              • Darkside Magick
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-28-10
                • 12638

                #8
                Ummmmm.. OBJ is open on almost every pass play..

                I Watch every Browns game and family is season ticket holders
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                • mjsuax13
                  Moderator
                  • 03-14-15
                  • 25115

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                  Ummmmm.. OBJ is open on almost every pass play..

                  I Watch every Browns game and family is season ticket holders
                  Well, then he should have a huge season!
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                  • Darkside Magick
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-28-10
                    • 12638

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mjsuax13
                    Well, then he should have a huge season!
                    Cant have a huge season when baker Mayfield will not throw to him.... Or under throw to him on at least 4 TD where he blazed pass the DB
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                    • lakerboy
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-02-09
                      • 94379

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                      Ummmmm.. OBJ is open on almost every pass play..

                      I Watch every Browns game and family is season ticket holders
                      They don't want him anymore. His dad posted a long video with him open.
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                      • Darkside Magick
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-28-10
                        • 12638

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                        They don't want him anymore. His dad posted a long video with him open.
                        They basically going to cut him after the season so they don't take a Cap hit
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                        • shadymcgrady
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-27-12
                          • 10036

                          #13
                          I'd be pissed as well if the garden gnome was throwing me passes
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                          • magpie878
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-04-18
                            • 1433

                            #14
                            I'm dying to know how one's family having season tickets correlates to OBJ being open a lot.
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                            • Darkside Magick
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-28-10
                              • 12638

                              #15
                              Originally posted by magpie878
                              I'm dying to know how one's family having season tickets correlates to OBJ being open a lot.
                              Because we are at the games and can see the plays... Duhhhhh

                              Everyone see it.. But they protecting Baker Mayfield
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                              • mjsuax13
                                Moderator
                                • 03-14-15
                                • 25115

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                Cant have a huge season when baker Mayfield will not throw to him.... Or under throw to him on at least 4 TD where he blazed pass the DB
                                I mean… sure but he always seems to have a problem with the QB and his first 3 years in the league make up 60% of his stats. I think his best years are behind him. Baker might be trash too and that will play out.
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                                • Darkside Magick
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-28-10
                                  • 12638

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                  I mean… sure but he always seems to have a problem with the QB and his first 3 years in the league make up 60% of his stats. I think his best years are behind him. Baker might be trash too and that will play out.
                                  I'm not saying he is the best receiver or anything.. Game tape don't lie... He is open nearly every pass play and not even being double
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                                  • TheMetsSuck
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-14-12
                                    • 6146

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                    Ummmmm.. OBJ is open on almost every pass play..

                                    I Watch every Browns game and family is season ticket holders
                                    I was reading that obj is always running poor routes to the point baker has no idea where he’s going half the time and thats why his targets aren’t higher
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                                    • Darkside Magick
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-28-10
                                      • 12638

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                      I was reading that obj is always running poor routes to the point baker has no idea where he’s going half the time and thats why his targets aren’t higher
                                      Landry route running is great... Yes OBJ can do better in that department but many time baker is rolling out and it turns into backyard
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Brady will get him
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-04-09
                                          • 48383

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                          Ummmmm.. OBJ is open on almost every pass play..I Watch every Browns game and family is season ticket holders
                                          I used to be a Browns season ticket holder for years before I left Cleveland. I watch EVERY game and have DVR. I totally agree. OBJ is open A LOT. Receivers are open A LOT. Baker just can't find him as well as other receivers. Baker is usually late on the passes, high when he does throw it and ZERO touch. He can make the easy pass to TE's and screens to RBs but he is just not consistent throwing to receivers. We can blame OBJ all we want but Baker is not finding ANY WR. I think teams have figure him and Stefanski out. They are good at dialing up scripted plays to start the game and come out at half but in crunch time? Forget about it. I don't want to totally blame Baker just yet because he could be held back by Stef. He takes zero chances. He's a game manager. That could be by design by Stef or that just could be Baker. In todays NFL you have to take your shots down the field.

                                          Sure OBJ is a diva on the back end of his career. Is he worth the $15M? Not if you're only throwing the ball 2 times a game to him. A lot of people in Cleveland LOVE Baker and thinks he can do no wrong. Most hate OBJ, LBJ, etc. So they are blinded by reality. Baker is a below average QB right now. You can't blame that on one of his receivers.
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                                          • Cougar Bait
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-04-07
                                            • 18282

                                            #22
                                            LMAO where would Brady put him JJ? He's like the 4th best receiver on that team? Maybe 5th best?
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                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-04-09
                                              • 48383

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                              I was reading that obj is always running poor routes to the point baker has no idea where he’s going half the time and thats why his targets aren’t higher
                                              He's running crazy routes because Baker won't throw the ball on time. The Browns lead the league in time to pass. Baker has like 2.8 seconds to throw the ball and he still can't find open receivers. It's awful. I can show you games where he had easy passes and he just didn't see the open receiver. WTF? Maybe he's too short? Maybe he's color blind? He does not process the field quickly.

                                              I will always remember I was at the Raiders/Titans game where Rich Gannon beat them for the Raiders to get into the Superbowl. I was sitting at field level. I was blown away how quickly Gannon could scan the field and find receivers and hit them in tight spaces. That was an incredible game. The speed on the field was break neck. To this day I am amazed how quickly the game really is on the field compared to seeing it from above on TV. Great QBs can see it and make 2, 3, 4 reads immediately. Baker is not there yet.
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                                              • vitterd
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 09-14-17
                                                • 58460

                                                #24
                                                Obj is an ass. Baker stinks. Both are true.
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                                                • vitterd
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 09-14-17
                                                  • 58460

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                  He's running crazy routes because Baker won't throw the ball on time. The Browns lead the league in time to pass. Baker has like 2.8 seconds to throw the ball and he still can't find open receivers. It's awful. I can show you games where he had easy passes and he just didn't see the open receiver. WTF? Maybe he's too short? Maybe he's color blind? He does not process the field quickly.

                                                  I will always remember I was at the Raiders/Titans game where Rich Gannon beat them for the Raiders to get into the Superbowl. I was sitting at field level. I was blown away how quickly Gannon could scan the field and find receivers and hit them in tight spaces. That was an incredible game. The speed on the field was break neck. To this day I am amazed how quickly the game really is on the field compared to seeing it from above on TV. Great QBs can see it and make 2, 3, 4 reads immediately. Baker is not there yet.
                                                  Watching a great QB process those decisions at field level is really something to watch. It’s incredible how they are able to do it with such quickness.
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48383

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                                                    LMAO where would Brady put him JJ? He's like the 4th best receiver on that team? Maybe 5th best?
                                                    I don't know about that CB. The guy is incredibly talented. He is getting open A LOT if you watch the games. He's had some WTF drops but I think a lot of that comes from not being used to getting the ball. It would be very Cleveland like for them to get rid of him and he catches 80 passes somewhere else.

                                                    I think the Browns are not sold on Baker because they would have signed him to a long term deal if they were. I think we will soon see if they move forward with Baker or reset. I think they should play Keenum while Baker's not 100%. See what you have with your receivers. My gut tells me the Browns need more talent at WR and also need to find a franchise QB. I don't believe Baker is it, unfortunately.
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                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                      • 48383

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by vitterd
                                                      Obj is an ass. Baker stinks. Both are true.
                                                      I believe both are true as well. The question, does OBJ still have talent left? I can take an ass if they can produce. I've seen him running open a lot, so that tells me he still has talent. Does Baker stink? Right now he does. Is it the injury? He's shown glimpses of brilliance but chokes in crunch time. A lot of blame has to be thrown at Stefanski. Does he trust Baker? Why does he call the absolute worse plays in crunch time? The Browns are like 4 for 18 on fourth downs. Why the hell are you going for it on 4th down so much?
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                                                      • Darkside Magick
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-28-10
                                                        • 12638

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                        I don't know about that CB. The guy is incredibly talented. He is getting open A LOT if you watch the games. He's had some WTF drops but I think a lot of that comes from not being used to getting the ball. It would be very Cleveland like for them to get rid of him and he catches 80 passes somewhere else.

                                                        I think the Browns are not sold on Baker because they would have signed him to a long term deal if they were. I think we will soon see if they move forward with Baker or reset. I think they should play Keenum while Baker's not 100%. See what you have with your receivers. My gut tells me the Browns need more talent at WR and also need to find a franchise QB. I don't believe Baker is it, unfortunately.
                                                        New regime inherited Baker including Stefanski.... Stupid if they paid this guy
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83686

                                                          #29
                                                          Browns are sucking now, who cares.
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                                                          • Cougar Bait
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-04-07
                                                            • 18282

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                            I don't know about that CB. The guy is incredibly talented. He is getting open A LOT if you watch the games. He's had some WTF drops but I think a lot of that comes from not being used to getting the ball. It would be very Cleveland like for them to get rid of him and he catches 80 passes somewhere else.

                                                            I think the Browns are not sold on Baker because they would have signed him to a long term deal if they were. I think we will soon see if they move forward with Baker or reset. I think they should play Keenum while Baker's not 100%. See what you have with your receivers. My gut tells me the Browns need more talent at WR and also need to find a franchise QB. I don't believe Baker is it, unfortunately.
                                                            Meant on Tampa not Cleveland, but you got OBJ higher than Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, or Chris Godwin? I say he'd be at least #4 on that team.
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                                                            • edawg
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-09-11
                                                              • 2820

                                                              #31
                                                              Baker is a mediocre rhythm only passer. Beckham is one of the most over rated players in sports (always breaking off routes and dropping every other ball thrown to him) and LeBron is a phag.
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                                                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-04-09
                                                                • 48383

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                                                                Meant on Tampa not Cleveland, but you got OBJ higher than Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, or Chris Godwin? I say he'd be at least #4 on that team.
                                                                He could be #1 on that team. I'm serious. The guy is playing probably at 85% and is still getting open by a large margin which is hard to do in the NFL. Look at the video his father posted. He ain't lying. But I agree that TB has some baller receivers. I don't see why they would want to add another diva receiver.
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                                  • 48383

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                                  New regime inherited Baker including Stefanski.... Stupid if they paid this guy
                                                                  I can't tell you how many times I'm screaming at the tv... "throw the damn ball". I'm cooled on Mayfield. I hope they make a move but the casual Browns fan loves the guy. They might feel forced to pay him.

                                                                  I would go after Watson. He's almost ready to settle out of court with all the girls. Put Watson on this team and I'm convinced they could make a SuperBowl. It ain't happening with Baker.
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                                                                  • Darkside Magick
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-28-10
                                                                    • 12638

                                                                    #34
                                                                    OBJ held out of practice by the team today... Probably played last game with browns
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                                                                    • Darkside Magick
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-28-10
                                                                      • 12638

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                      I can't tell you how many times I'm screaming at the tv... "throw the damn ball". I'm cooled on Mayfield. I hope they make a move but the casual Browns fan loves the guy. They might feel forced to pay him.

                                                                      I would go after Watson. He's almost ready to settle out of court with all the girls. Put Watson on this team and I'm convinced they could make a SuperBowl. It ain't happening with Baker.

                                                                      Houston took Watson off the market for that very reason... They know teams need a QB.. They know they can get the best off from the browns thN any team in the NFL... Jimmy Haslan probably sign off on a trade but will his wife Dee cosign
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