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  • Vyasports
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-27-19
    • 4946

    #1
    Serious Thread: Posters with Massive losses; What can we learn from their experiences
    First it was Dougie with massive losses in tennis + golf [strategy:withdrawing 350 per week]
    then
    it was Thawoj with massive losses in casino (blackjack+live baccarat ); [couldn't cashout/withdraw his 40K (had to wait for 1 week)]

    It would also be helpful for others if these two posters give us some insights on what went wrong really...besides "tilt"

    p.s. don't know if i missed anybody here...add them below...
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #2
    Gamblers Anon

    Its a disease

    Do not bet over your head
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    • JayLA
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-11-12
      • 7806

      #3
      It's impossible to cash out daily with some books but if you can, do it

      When i run up a balance on a local book that pays out weekly, i deposit on a legal book that i can cash out when the penetrate i want and bet there while the other guy settles up
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      • Headsterx
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-03-16
        • 22414

        #4
        Wait! He lost his $40k before the end of the week for the payout?
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #5
          its zero issue if your not a compulsive gambler
          If you cannot control it you seek help and quit

          your all missing the point like usual
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          • Headsterx
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-03-16
            • 22414

            #6
            Oh wow, just saw his thread. Don’t care what type of gambler you are, the average gambler isn’t going to just have that winning sit and wait for 1 week. That is why books do it in the first place and also a sign they don’t have the funds either.

            Anyway, the lesson I took when it happened to me is don’t log back into that account until the payout. Go do something else or have a different book to use.

            On the other end with Dougie, which I can’t say it was his mentally, but it is mine when I make his type of deposits. The deposits are by btc atm which you lose 10%-20% or more right off the bat. So when that deposit finally is in the book you’re looking to recoup that 10% loss quickly. And then you end up in a downward spiral of losses. Avoid using btc atm and also outlandish bonuses (just recently I got duped into a 30x r/o for sports).
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388189

              #7
              This is why some players moving away from offshore

              Balance should be removed immediately like USA books
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              • Vyasports
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-27-19
                • 4946

                #8
                Originally posted by JayLA
                It's impossible to cash out daily with some books but if you can, do it

                When i run up a balance on a local book that pays out weekly, i deposit on a legal book that i can cash out when the penetrate i want and bet there while the other guy settles up
                thawoj created a thread asking for advices and in the end he chose to ignore every beautiful advice posted and kept on betting. the addiction is strong. not judging but it's all there...
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                • dlowilly
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-09-16
                  • 13862

                  #9
                  Do not, under any circumstances, gamble while on pain killers. Worse than gambling shitfaced drunk.
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65203

                    #10
                    They don't have much of a sense of humor?
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                    • mjsuax13
                      Moderator
                      • 03-14-15
                      • 24853

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vyasports
                      thawoj created a thread asking for advices and in the end he chose to ignore every beautiful advice posted and kept on betting. the addiction is strong. not judging but it's all there...
                      100% agree. He only has 72 hours to hold on too.
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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65203

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mjsuax13
                        100% agree. He only has 72 hours to hold on too.
                        You're a dumb shit.


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                        • johnnyvegas13
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 05-21-15
                          • 27799

                          #13
                          Dougy is crazy betting huge amounts on live tennis
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                          • mjsuax13
                            Moderator
                            • 03-14-15
                            • 24853

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stevenash
                            You're a dumb shit.


                            And a parasite!
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                            • Roger T. Bannon
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-28-18
                              • 5139

                              #15
                              It is nothing but tilt. All gamblers have problems with bet sizing. There is no way your brain can comprehend the risks you are taking when betting. It is too mathematically complex. The amount you want to bet and the amount you can afford to bet do not match.
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65203

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                And a parasite!
                                I own you
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                                • Enikk
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-09-20
                                  • 1287

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  its zero issue if your not a compulsive gambler
                                  If you cannot control it you seek help and quit

                                  your all missing the point like usual
                                  There would never be a 40k run on a minimal re-up to begin with if he wasn't a compulsive gambler. Not everyone is looking to waste life grinding to win or lose $100. They are looking for that life changing run which unfortunately in most cases for a compulsive gambler is life changing run to recoup lifetime loses. Problem is greed and nothing is ever enough. 10k becomes 15k becomes 20k becomes 30k becomes 50k becomes 100k. A degen can be a dollar away from 1 million and tilt it all trying to get that 1 million. 5 dimes was a great book with the most options and reduced juice but criminal in their stall tactics on withdrawals.
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                                  • mjsuax13
                                    Moderator
                                    • 03-14-15
                                    • 24853

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    I own you
                                    Wrong, dumb shit! You never post and track anything!
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                                    • Headsterx
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-03-16
                                      • 22414

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Enikk
                                      There would never be a 40k run on a minimal re-up to begin with if he wasn't a compulsive gambler. Not everyone is looking to waste life grinding to win or lose $100. They are looking for that life changing run which unfortunately in most cases for a compulsive gambler is life changing run to recoup lifetime loses. Problem is greed and nothing is ever enough. 10k becomes 15k becomes 20k becomes 30k becomes 50k becomes 100k. A degen can be a dollar away from 1 million and tilt it all trying to get that 1 million. 5 dimes was a great book with the most options and reduced juice but criminal in their stall tactics on withdrawals.
                                      Oh man, you had me dying. I remembered when I had $4,999 and I wanted that extra dollar so I played bj. Less than 1 hour I lost it all. 😂
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                                      • Enikk
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-09-20
                                        • 1287

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                        Dougy is crazy betting huge amounts on live tennis
                                        Why? Besides the huge amounts what sport is better to bet? No Ref/Ump to worry about. Most tournaments now have Hawkeye for line calls. Don't have to worry about some lazy piece of shit missing free throws for your cover or have one relief pitcher f\*\*k up a great game. You just have to cap an individual.
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                                        • Enikk
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-09-20
                                          • 1287

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Headsterx
                                          Oh man, you had me dying. I remembered when I had $4,999 and I wanted that extra dollar so I played bj. Less than 1 hour I lost it all. 
                                          It is a horrible feeling but you sleep real fvcking good the next day or 2 than right back at it with a clear head.
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                                          • BeatTheJerk
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-19-07
                                            • 31794

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                            Wrong, dumb shit! You never post and track anything!
                                            Dumb shit parasite posts trash in my threads all day.
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                                            • SamsNCharge99
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-22-08
                                              • 41242

                                              #23
                                              Be realistic in my goal. I cant win $10,000 from a $200 deposit in 1 day. Slow and steady
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                                              • hubie69
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-16-10
                                                • 7329

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                You're a dumb shit.


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                                                • mjsuax13
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 03-14-15
                                                  • 24853

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                  Dumb shit parasite posts trash in my threads all day.
                                                  Fukk off
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                                                  • 646d6d
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 09-29-21
                                                    • 54

                                                    #26
                                                    In Doug's case, he's clearly delusional.

                                                    His brain tells him that he can pitch an 85mph fastball when in reality he's barely breaking 50mph.

                                                    He's lost hundreds of thousands gambling, has to lie and steal to fund the addiction, yet somehow still believes he can make a living as a professional at it.

                                                    Even if he could somehow become a +EV bettor, he has absolutely no discipline. The lack of basic bankroll management and risk assessment guarantees failure.

                                                    The only upside is that his square money keeps markets liquid enough for others to be successful.
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                                                    • Vyasports
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-27-19
                                                      • 4946

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Enikk
                                                      It is a horrible feeling but you sleep real fvcking good the next day or 2 than right back at it with a clear head.

                                                      always an advantage to bet with a clear head.
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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #28
                                                        Common SBR get your shit together.

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                                                        • ThaTopMoron
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 04-30-10
                                                          • 27018

                                                          #29
                                                          those 2 do 2 things

                                                          first off, doug bets random tennis and that will never win long term then he chases on tilt mode if he knows he can reload another 1-2 times

                                                          the other guy told us his problem, he can't stop even when he's hot and eventually loses it somehow or starts it going south in the casino in the middle of the night


                                                          if you can't stop yourself from dumb bets when you know you're on tilt

                                                          can't stay out of the worthless casino

                                                          there is no hope for you

                                                          doug should've started doing things differently after his Joker/Barty wins
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                                                          • mjsuax13
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 03-14-15
                                                            • 24853

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                                            those 2 do 2 things

                                                            first off, doug bets random tennis and that will never win long term then he chases on tilt mode if he knows he can reload another 1-2 times

                                                            the other guy told us his problem, he can't stop even when he's hot and eventually loses it somehow or starts it going south in the casino in the middle of the night


                                                            if you can't stop yourself from dumb bets when you know you're on tilt

                                                            can't stay out of the worthless casino

                                                            there is no hope for you

                                                            doug should've started doing things differently after his Joker/Barty wins
                                                            WOJ stays up all night playing online casino games. Who the hell does that?
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                                                            • TheMetsSuck
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-14-12
                                                              • 6149

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                              Do not, under any circumstances, gamble while on pain killers. Worse than gambling shitfaced drunk.

                                                              I had a couple bottles of red last night and ended up betting on Chinese Soccer and got clobbered hard erasing a big winning day and then some.. I was pretty hurt. I woke up and logged into my acct and was like like wtf. Forgot the damage I had done lol. If it’s a weekend and I’ve won some good coin, I usually start boozing. Drunk and confident the winning ride will continue is a dangerous game. Avoid online casinos always, but especially when drunk. I have most disabled, but still a sucker for late night soccer
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                                                              • ThaTopMoron
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 04-30-10
                                                                • 27018

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                                                WOJ stays up all night playing online casino games. Who the hell does that?
                                                                I've never played casino in my life... LOL, I don't have an answer.
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                                                                • pablo222
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-03-19
                                                                  • 8858

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                                                  WOJ stays up all night playing online casino games. Who the hell does that?
                                                                  I think he said he works 65 plus hours a week.
                                                                  He will sleep 2 hours and wake up wicked early to play before work.
                                                                  I remember a couple stories he told where he runs it up, falls asleep at 2am to only wake up at 4am and lose it all before leaving for work.
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                                                                  • mjsuax13
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 03-14-15
                                                                    • 24853

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pablo222
                                                                    I think he said he works 65 plus hours a week.
                                                                    He will sleep 2 hours and wake up wicked early to play before work.
                                                                    I remember a couple stories he told where he runs it up, falls asleep at 2am to only wake up at 4am and lose it all before leaving for work.
                                                                    Yes, I recall those stories. Fukkin guy is committed to his craft. He’s gotta be up right now hammering the mouse key.
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #35
                                                                      This thread is painful to read.

                                                                      Step up the game guys. I want to do videos but if you're all degens what's the fukkin point?

                                                                      Common man.

                                                                      Who has the stones to make a business out of this?

                                                                      Online casinos? Fine, crazy stupid, but fine; but not with your sports bankroll, for fuksake.

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