Baseball Lines DO Not Have Sharp Moves Like They Use Too

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388208

    #1
    Baseball Lines DO Not Have Sharp Moves Like They Use Too
    I definitely think volume is down this year baseball
    forget pitching changes and or injuries that is not a sharp line move

    Offshore groups are not pounding games like they use

    I use to see so many steam moves in the past now all it is most of time is a few pennies generated by pinny or bookmaker

    The money is gone as far as bases
  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40184

    #2
    CIRCA/BETONLINE 3x over PINNY/BOOKMAKER

    You're monitoring wrong venues
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40184

      #3
      Many people that came into this business 20 years ago are now broke or gave up sportsbetting.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388208

        #4
        The moves are not there other than a few cents most of the day

        I was talking to a GM yesterday at a major book and he said they are down 50% baseball and do not know why

        I am sure if you look at tiny prop markets you could catch them here and there but way too time consuming
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40184

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          The moves are not there other than a few cents most of the day

          I was talking to a GM yesterday at a major book and he said they are down 50% baseball and do not know why

          I am sure if you look at tiny prop markets you could catch them here and there but way too time consuming
          Numerous 10 cent+ moves daily........
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          • Fishhead
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-11-05
            • 40184

            #6
            ...........having said that, as usual, JULY is a very slow month, many pros take 2-4 weeks off at this time.
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40184

              #7
              I personally average 1-4 days off per CALENDAR year.............
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388208

                #8
                Fisher what is your volume Circa weekly?
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40184

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Fisher what is your volume Circa weekly?
                  Will only say......into the six figures......A+ SHOP IN EVERY ASPECT.

                  Their staff is the best!!
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40184

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                    Will only say......into the six figures......A+ SHOP IN EVERY ASPECT.

                    Their staff is the best!!
                    Best staff since the one I was affiliated with at the Castaways in their final three years on the strip(MIRAGE there now)..........that staff will NEVER be equaled in this city.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388208

                      #11
                      Too bad not in PA
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                      • Fishhead
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 40184

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Too bad not in PA
                        Probably just a matter of time.

                        FIVE CIRCA venues here now in the valley...............

                        CIRCA
                        GOLDEN GATE
                        THE D
                        TUSCANY
                        THE PASS(downtown Henderson)

                        In addition to the greatest APP of them all................
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388208

                          #13
                          Fishhead your a professional
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                          • carolinakid
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-12-11
                            • 19117

                            #14
                            that not true JJ you watching bad lines if you are not seeing huge swings on side and total.....it the same as always, if you still watching the sbr odds might be your big problem.
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                            • carolinakid
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-12-11
                              • 19117

                              #15
                              i can give you one big move today san diego in the bases open-168 and now-207
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40184

                                #16
                                Originally posted by carolinakid
                                that not true JJ you watching bad lines if you are not seeing huge swings on side and total.....it the same as always, if you still watching the sbr odds might be your big problem.
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74866

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  I definitely think volume is down this year baseball
                                  forget pitching changes and or injuries that is not a sharp line move

                                  Offshore groups are not pounding games like they use

                                  I use to see so many steam moves in the past now all it is most of time is a few pennies generated by pinny or bookmaker

                                  The money is gone as far as bases
                                  This is not true. I simply disagree here as far as this season. I disagree with much of your post.

                                  I'm not going to try to tell you what books or lines to look at, but maybe you are posting out of some kind of recency effect, and even that is wrong.

                                  There is volume Gold, big time.
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                                  • carolinakid
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-12-11
                                    • 19117

                                    #18
                                    ^^^^^^^^plus 1
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                                    • mjsuax13
                                      Moderator
                                      • 03-14-15
                                      • 24984

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      The moves are not there other than a few cents most of the day

                                      I was talking to a GM yesterday at a major book and he said they are down 50% baseball and do not know why

                                      I am sure if you look at tiny prop markets you could catch them here and there but way too time consuming
                                      They are down because Morono didn’t put his MLB thread up this year. Easy answer.
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74866

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by carolinakid
                                        i can give you one big move today san diego in the bases open-168 and now-207
                                        Yes, and I bought MIA when it hit +190.



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                                        • carolinakid
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-12-11
                                          • 19117

                                          #21
                                          ^yes it went to-217 and down now a little at 213
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388208

                                            #22
                                            Most books move a few pennies that’s all
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                                            • Brock Landers
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 06-30-08
                                              • 45367

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                                              Probably just a matter of time.

                                              FIVE CIRCA venues here now in the valley...............

                                              CIRCA
                                              GOLDEN GATE
                                              THE D
                                              TUSCANY
                                              THE PASS(downtown Henderson)

                                              In addition to the greatest APP of them all................
                                              I suppose super capper STEVE STEVENS gambles there. He's known as a "bookie killer"
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                                              • ronald
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-31-05
                                                • 4922

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                I suppose super capper STEVE STEVENS gambles there. He's known as a "bookie killer"
                                                How is the steakhouse at the D?
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                                                • Fishhead
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                  • 40184

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ronald
                                                  How is the steakhouse at the D?
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                                                  • Brock Landers
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 06-30-08
                                                    • 45367

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ronald
                                                    How is the steakhouse at the D?
                                                    AVG if paying yourself

                                                    Excellent if free
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74866

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Most books move a few pennies that’s all
                                                      Here's the current list from just Pinny, the bold have already closed for the day...

                                                      Pinny Pinny Move
                                                      open Current/Close
                                                      PHI -172 -162 10
                                                      SD -168 -213 45
                                                      CIN -170 -165 5
                                                      BOS -125 -133 8
                                                      TB -151 -167 16
                                                      BAL -124 103 27
                                                      NYM -104 110 14
                                                      CHI -170 -178 8
                                                      SF -165 -195 30
                                                      LAD -175 -182 7
                                                      MIN -107 -117 10
                                                      DET -108 -103 5
                                                      HOU -220 -253 33
                                                      OAK -120 -132 12
                                                      MIL -125 -151 26
                                                      Average 17.06667
                                                      Median 12
                                                      Gold 1/3 of the games have moved 25 cents or more and 1/5 more than 30 cents. What more do you want?

                                                      You also bitched about volume, my contacts universally, as well as my office calculations show you are 100% wrong about that too.

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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388208

                                                        #28
                                                        do not compare the opener vs the current line

                                                        That is not a move , many games move off the opener

                                                        I am talking about in the day very little movement
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                                                        • carolinakid
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-12-11
                                                          • 19117

                                                          #29
                                                          you just to learn what a true move and what is not late, and this time many hrs and yrs watching lines, but in the day there are great moves on both the side and total
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                                                          • carolinakid
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-12-11
                                                            • 19117

                                                            #30
                                                            jj what outs do you use to watch lines
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