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  • fried cheese
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    • 09-17-13
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    #36
    Originally posted by KVB
    LMAO at the Bird fights.

    Why post them though, this thread has nothing to do with a fight on the basketball court.

    Crowder was the closest thing to making it a fight.
    i think his point was that there should have been a big fight but basketball is just for pussies now. its basically soccer with ppl rolling on the floor acting like they are dying from a minor slap and sitting out for a month with a bruise. the nfl is following their example too.
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    • KVB
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      #37
      Originally posted by fried cheese
      i think his point was that there should have been a big fight but basketball is just for pussies now. its basically soccer with ppl rolling on the floor acting like they are dying from a minor slap and sitting out for a month with a bruise. the nfl is following their example too.
      Agreed, that's why I made that post. I'm not really criticizing Archie's post, it was sort of rhetorical.

      I'm also making a point that there was no fight.

      Soccer a great analogy and in general why doesn't Paul get whistles for flopping?

      Crowder was the closest thing we had, not even beverly himself was trying to fight...lol.
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      • fried cheese
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        #38
        Originally posted by KVB
        Agreed, that's why I made that post. I'm not really criticizing Archie's post, it was sort of rhetorical.

        I'm also making a point that there was no fight.

        Soccer a great analogy and in general why doesn't Paul get whistles for flopping?

        Crowder was the closest thing we had, not even beverly himself was trying to fight...lol.
        i don think it should be a penalty for flopping. i think that if someone is caught obviously flopping then the refs should always assume they are flopping for the rest of their career unless the foul is very obvious.
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        • KVB
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          #39
          Originally posted by fried cheese
          i don think it should be a penalty for flopping. i think that if someone is caught obviously flopping then the refs should always assume they are flopping for the rest of their career unless the foul is very obvious.
          In the NBA it's a techical in game.

          But they also fine players after the fact if they determine there was a flop whe reviewing the games, whether or not the ref called it at the time...a fact I did not know.

          Not sure who all has been fined for flopping.

          Bill Laimbeer is credited with "revolutionizing the practice of flopping" in the NBA...lol.

          Next to LeBron James , there are no players despised more by the NBA community than the ones who flop. Flopping is the "art" of exaggerating contact when coming into contact with ...


          Funny list there.
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          • Yulia74
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            • 08-28-18
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            #40
            CP3 broke him
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            • KVB
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              • 05-29-14
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              #41
              Originally posted by Yulia74
              CP3 broke him
              Got in his head, lol.

              It needs to be like MLB and NHL, where fighting is accepted and a traditional part of the game.

              We need more NBA bench clearing brawls. That fighting is fine, it's part of the entertainment.

              What beverly did, going outside the realm of the script, should be pounished harshly.

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              • Mac4Lyfe
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                #42
                Originally posted by fried cheese
                i don think it should be a penalty for flopping. i think that if someone is caught obviously flopping then the refs should always assume they are flopping for the rest of their career unless the foul is very obvious.
                Huh? Flopping is killing soccer and the NBA and college basketball. Guys are more like actors than players. I think the punishment should be very harsh. I say if you flop, you should have to sit out an entire quarter or half. If you flop in the next half, you should be suspended the next game. Sort of like targeting in football. That shit has ZERO place in basketball.
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                • TheMoneyShot
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                  #43
                  Beverly gets under your skin.... Paul gets under your skin... Beverly didn't like someone giving him some of his own medicine lol
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                  • KVB
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                    Huh? Flopping is killing soccer and the NBA and college basketball. Guys are more like actors than players. I think the punishment should be very harsh. I say if you flop, you should have to sit out an entire quarter or half. If you flop in the next half, you should be suspended the next game. Sort of like targeting in football. That shit has ZERO place in basketball.
                    Same with the behind the back bullshit push.

                    But in general yeah, I agree.

                    I was glad to hear that they hand down fines for flopping with post game video reviews, but let's face it fines are often meaningless to these guys.

                    Flopping absolutely needs to be discouraged now, before it gets worse, and a technical is a good start.

                    Ruin the posession, give him free throwd, give the ball again. That should make think about flopping, maybe more than a fine.
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                    • floki
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                      • 02-07-19
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                      #45
                      chrissy is too soft, if bev pushed him he deserved it

                      2 losers, fuk them
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                      • IBetYou
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                        • 07-03-15
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                        #46
                        That stare was vintage Chris Paul haha. Happy for him going to his first finals. Think he finally wins a championship regardless of whether the Bucks pull through.

                        Don't get all this chatter about everyone hating him. Think Rondo said it once... who? Blake Griffin? Big Baby? Thin skinned players. Paul's a macho guy. A lot of American ballers are sensitive to shouting or criticism imo.
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                        • KVB
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                          Beverly gets under your skin.... Paul gets under your skin... Beverly didn't like someone giving him some of his own medicine lol
                          Yup, you nailed it.

                          I wonder how many people wanted to give jordan a shove in the heat of the moment.

                          Some guys will talk shit to you while they have the ball and you are guarding them, then talks shit while they are in the air, then talk shit while they dunk over your head.

                          Then talk more shit as you run back down the court.

                          Playas gotsa to be mentally tough. Beverly couldn't take it.

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                          • KVB
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                            #48
                            Maybe he shouldn't have done it on TV.

                            He should have thrown a dolly or chair at their bus and let the TMZ video show the world.

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                            • stevenash
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                              • 01-17-11
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by KVB
                              Maybe he shouldn't have done it on TV.

                              He should have thrown a dolly or chair at their bus and let the TMZ video show the world.

                              One of these deals maybe?









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                              • thomorino
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                                #50
                                What a dumb thread, hockey players throw punches every game, it’s not a big deal, a push means less than nothing.
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                                • stevenash
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                                  • 01-17-11
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                  What a dumb thread, hockey players throw punches every game, it’s not a big deal, a push means less than nothing.
                                  A dumb thread would be your NBA picks thread.

                                  Just saying.
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                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                    • 01-04-09
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    Same with the behind the back bullshit push.But in general yeah, I agree.I was glad to hear that they hand down fines for flopping with post game video reviews, but let's face it fines are often meaningless to these guys.Flopping absolutely needs to be discouraged now, before it gets worse, and a technical is a good start.Ruin the posession, give him free throwd, give the ball again. That should make think about flopping, maybe more than a fine.
                                    I don't mind a guy trying to draw a charge but the floppers that are trying to fool the refs into a call are the worst. They should absolutely call them out in the game and charge them with a personal foul, plus 2 technical free throws, loss of possession like a flagrant. 2 of them and you are gone. But I kinda think on the 1st flop, you should have to sit out at least a half and after 2, you have to sit out the next damn game. That would stop this stupid shit.



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                                    • stevenash
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                      I don't mind a guy trying to draw a charge but the floppers that are trying to fool the refs into a call are the worst. They should absolutely call them out in the game and charge them with a personal foul, plus 2 technical free throws, loss of possession like a flagrant. 2 of them and you are gone. But I kinda think on the 1st flop, you should have to sit out at least a half and after 2, you have to sit out the next damn game. That would stop this stupid shit.





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                                      • thomorino
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by stevenash

                                        A dumb thread would be your NBA picks thread.

                                        Just saying.
                                        Oh look, it’s the dumb shit I own who follows me around all day.
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                                        • stevenash
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by IBetYou
                                          That stare was vintage Chris Paul haha. Happy for him going to his first finals. Think he finally wins a championship regardless of whether the Bucks pull through.

                                          Don't get all this chatter about everyone hating him. Think Rondo said it once... who? Blake Griffin? Big Baby? Thin skinned players. Paul's a macho guy. A lot of American ballers are sensitive to shouting or criticism imo.
                                          Yeah.

                                          Paul looks like he's finally landed in a happy place.
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                                          • KVB
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
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                                            • stevenash
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by KVB



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                                              • KVB
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                A dumb thread would be your NBA picks thread.

                                                Just saying.
                                                Morono polluting the thread already?

                                                I'm sure he's being real insightful.

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                                                • thomorino
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                  Morono polluting the thread already?

                                                  I'm sure he's being real insightful.

                                                  Only a coward like Kvb would start a thread about a push. You are a dumb shit.
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                                                  • stevenash
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                                                    #60
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                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                      Lebron started a lot of the flopera when he entered the league and especially when he went to the Heat. Fukkker is 6'9, 275 lbs yet flops like a fish when a 150 lb guard hits him. Can't stand guys purposely acting to get calls. Bush league.
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                                                      • stevenash
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                        Lebron started a lot of the flopera when he entered the league and especially when he went to the Heat. Fukkker is 6'9, 275 lbs yet flops like a fish when a 150 lb guard hits him. Can't stand guys purposely acting to get calls. Bush league.
                                                        I hear you and the sad thing is he's better than that (resorting to flopping).
                                                        No need for him to flop.
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                                                        • fried cheese
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                          Huh? Flopping is killing soccer and the NBA and college basketball. Guys are more like actors than players. I think the punishment should be very harsh. I say if you flop, you should have to sit out an entire quarter or half. If you flop in the next half, you should be suspended the next game. Sort of like targeting in football. That shit has ZERO place in basketball.
                                                          my punishment is harsher than yours. one game suspension isnt that much compared to never getting any close calls or benefit of the doubts for the rest of your career. you would lose every close block/charge call and never get any of the borderline foul calls.
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            #64
                                                            Chris Paul before back and neck whiplash push



                                                            Chris Paul after neck and back jerk push.. .

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                                                            • KVB
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                                                              #65
                                                              lmao jibbs

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                                                              • stevenash
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                Chris Paul before back and neck whiplash push



                                                                Chris Paul after neck and back jerk push.. .

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                                                                • seaborneq
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Just bush league. Absolutely a front runner
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                                                                  • 19th Hole
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    Lebron started a lot of the flopera when he entered the league and especially when he went to the Heat. Fukkker is 6'9, 275 lbs yet flops like a fish when a 150 lb guard hits him. Can't stand guys purposely acting to get calls. Bush league.

                                                                    FLOPERA ---
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                                                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      Chris Paul before back and neck whiplash push



                                                                      Chris Paul after neck and back jerk push.. .

                                                                      Bottom looks like Deion Sanders lol
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                                                                      • bigtymer56
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                        Lebron started a lot of the flopera when he entered the league and especially when he went to the Heat. Fukkker is 6'9, 275 lbs yet flops like a fish when a 150 lb guard hits him. Can't stand guys purposely acting to get calls. Bush league.
                                                                        They need to start giving guys techs for flopping.
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