Djokovic vs Nadal

**jjgold** · 06-11-21, 04:47 PM

Joker only guy to beat nadal twice at French

If Joker wins Sunday only guy since Laver to win ever slam 2 or more times

**sunshineSpecial** · 06-11-21, 04:52 PM

Novak has been the best player ever for a few years now. He's gonna hit 21 while holding all 4 titles at the same time. What's that called, a golden slam?

And he's going to do it all in New York where the crowd hates him LOL.

**KVB** · 06-11-21, 04:54 PM

Gold just full of tennis trivia today.

**navyblue81** · 06-11-21, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Unrivaled

He is already the GOAT in my book all around. He is weaker on clay but the only guy who can beat him is Nadal.

Yeah mine too but he needs the grand slam record to eliminate any doubt. I think he’s the greatest because he’s been doing it in the heart of this era. Fed was great but he won a lot of majors before Rafa/Djoker came about, and even Murray when he’s one among the best with these guys.

**Snowball** · 06-11-21, 05:03 PM

starting small again sucks.

need Temperley vs Nueva Chicago Under 1.5 now.

fell for the big game trap was dumb

**lonegambler23** · 06-11-21, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

starting small again sucks.

need Temperley vs Nueva Chicago Under 1.5 now.

fell for the big game trap was dumb

rip 🪦 snowball sry bro been there. i mean 153-3 u cnt go too much wrong, was just based on a feeling that nole is just something else. just all makes sense that morino was on nadal, what a mistake he is to life.

**Snowball** · 06-11-21, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by lonegambler23

rip 益 snowball sry bro been there. i mean 153-3 u cnt go too much wrong, was just based on a feeling that nole is just something else. just all makes sense that morino was on nadal, what a mistake he is to life.

thanks. won the under and working back up the mountain.

**wombat** · 06-11-21, 06:06 PM

Djokovic is the greatest of all time because he's the most versatile of all the big three. He can win a slam on any surface. Fed is done. Nadal maybe has one more slam left in him. Djokovic will end up with about 25 slam titles before all said and done. Greatest of all time period.

**texhooper** · 06-11-21, 06:12 PM

Remember when it was called the “big 4” and one of the four was Andy Murray? Funny times

**SamsNCharge99** · 06-11-21, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by navyblue81

If Djoker wins Sunday, this could be the match that catapults him to the title of GOAT. He’ll be within one of Fed and Rafa with Fed basically done and Rafa really only strong at Paris. Novak can start to roll here and pipe up some majors while he’s got a couple years left at his peak.

Starting to look more and more like Djoker could be the Grand Slam king at the end of the day. Never thought anyone would ever top Fed at one point but at the end of the day two guys may pass him.

And at least 2 grand slams on each surface i believe

**SamsNCharge99** · 06-11-21, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by texhooper

Remember when it was called the “big 4” and one of the four was Andy Murray? Funny times

Prime andy murray was a #1 player in any era. Crazy. His wimpledon title was a great moment

hes a good dude

**KiDBaZkiT** · 06-11-21, 06:43 PM

Take that RATfa!!

**PharaohUB** · 06-11-21, 06:47 PM

It’s funny I’ve been watching tennis pretty much every match for decade or so. I have a job that allows me to see pretty much every Match. I didn’t like Novak for longest time. But that mofo works his ass off and now I’m a big fan.

**PharaohUB** · 06-11-21, 06:48 PM

Anyone who didn’t know Novak would show up today doesn’t know tennis.

**jjgold** · 06-11-21, 07:05 PM

Murray was ok but lost too many big matches

He couldn’t win a mage without Lendl as his coach, and he just didn’t have it

**BigJay** · 06-11-21, 08:33 PM

Remember that one time they showed Andy Murray’s mom on tv?

**Jeff_Black** · 06-11-21, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by texhooper

Remember when it was called the “big 4” and one of the four was Andy Murray? Funny times

‘The Big Four’ was just something the British media coined to make Murray relevant and a few people for a while used it until both Nadal and Novak ran away with slams and left Murray in his dust.

But it was never something that took off or lasted even when it was supposedly a thing.

As for the current match itself I do partly wonder whether the occasion of getting to 21 was on Nadal’s mind as he was substantially less then close to his best but still at a high level. There was a time in the third where the UE count was at 22-22 or something similar and then when it was the tiebreak Nadal's UE error count crept up to 32 while Djokovic’s remained the same.
Or maybe age has slightly caught up to him where the slightly younger Novak had the advantage of being on a bit of a roll with his match wins in Belgrade then coming back against Musetti whilst Nadal was never really troubled.

Anyway as for the GOAT discussion which is more relevant once their careers are done I’ve always thought I don’t want to anoint Novak the GOAT until he has at least 20 or more but I think beating Nadal today in that fashion is the tiny missing piece of the puzzle (even though he’s beaten him here before) where it’s hard for the fans and the media to seperate the three and have them all on the same pedestal together.

**nuxx??** · 06-12-21, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by navyblue81

If Djoker wins Sunday, this could be the match that catapults him to the title of GOAT. He’ll be within one of Fed and Rafa with Fed basically done and Rafa really only strong at Paris. Novak can start to roll here and pipe up some majors while he’s got a couple years left at his peak.

Starting to look more and more like Djoker could be the Grand Slam king at the end of the day. Never thought anyone would ever top Fed at one point but at the end of the day two guys may pass him.

If he wins on sunday he's undisputed GOAT.

2x career Grand Slam
2x Golden Masters (All Master tournaments won twice) - Nobody else has won them once
Most weeks as No.1
Positive h2h against both Federer and Nadal
Beat Rafa twice in his home

**navyblue81** · 06-12-21, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by nuxx??

If he wins on sunday he's undisputed GOAT.

2x career Grand Slam
2x Golden Masters (All Master tournaments won twice) - Nobody else has won them once
Most weeks as No.1
Positive h2h against both Federer and Nadal
Beat Rafa twice in his home

Kinda the way I feel about Tiger-Jack. Always feel like Tiger’s the GOAT even if Jack has more majors. To put any questions to bed he has to get more majors to eliminate the debate.

Djoker needs to pass both just to eliminate any doubt he’s the GOAT…and I think he will. He’s the GOAT in my mind, but to prove it to more people, he’s gotta pass Roger and Rafa.

**thomorino** · 06-13-21, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by lonegambler23

rip 益 snowball sry bro been there. i mean 153-3 u cnt go too much wrong, was just based on a feeling that nole is just something else. just all makes sense that morino was on nadal, what a mistake he is to life.

I did not bet the match you dumb shit

**thomorino** · 06-13-21, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Kinda the way I feel about Tiger-Jack. Always feel like Tiger’s the GOAT even if Jack has more majors. To put any questions to bed he has to get more majors to eliminate the debate.

Djoker needs to pass both just to eliminate any doubt he’s the GOAT…and I think he will. He’s the GOAT in my mind, but to prove it to more people, he’s gotta pass Roger and Rafa.

Tiger is a cheater and led user you dumb shit. His personal physician is in federal jail for trafficking performance enhancing drugs.