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  • SorryImLate
    SBR Rookie
    • 06-02-21
    • 22

    #1
    A poker thread
    Hello everyone. Maybe the standard move in this situation would be to post on a poker forum, but seems like most of anyone who is anyone stays away. I respect this communities opinions even if it turns out to be the place for my issue.
    Have no issue revealing myself, and a few people who know of these characters might be able to identify me and that's fine just prefer to not be a target. I'm one of the very few who 'knows' of all this.

    In 2008, Tom Dwan was far ahead in a 50k hand match with Patrik Antonious and never finished the match nor declared victory. There was a sidebet of TD laying 1.5m to 500k. There has been no issues since they stopped playing late in the match with TD up big. Assuming the obvious, they settled their score and most likely it was Patrik who no longer wanted the action and conceded the side bet money. PA has never addressed this publicly nor has there ever been a public issue with the match. Side action between outsiders likely, but no one ever questioned the result.

    A year later Daniel Cates agreed to play the same format and the match became a spectacle in the HS community and drew tons of sidebets that TD and DC were well aware of. 3 of TD's personal friends(Peter Jetten, David Viffer Peat, and Justin Smith) were booking big action on TD which TD was well aware of. I had a % of DC direct with him and we were pretty close at the time. I had to fork over the same % of the 500k to DC to escrow with Phil Ivey. TD never escrowed with PI and may or may not be falling back on this idea that Full Tilt Poker, who he was a red pro with, (Salary + 100% rakeback) was responsible.

    There was a 3 month period where TD appeared to be broke. $28,674.35 on $2/400 tables. He also claimed that I was helping DC. That wasn't true and DC was one of the best, nor did I spend any time in the tank with DC over a year of action. A few months went by and TD disappeared. DC get texts from TD saying he wants to give late penatly $. I confirm with DC that that would count towards %. DC loses a few bets with me and do not see him much in the 6 months.

    Haseeb Qureshi had lived with DC for a year and they were close. I was staking HQ for online, a journey that could be broken into 4 parts. Losing, Losing 400k to a good pro under no supervision or stoploss, claim of getting trojaned on Cake poker, and then disappearing after losing a bet to me. 6 months later a HSNL group comes forward claiming they've been trojan horsed by HQ's 'student'. To avoid connection HQ used DC's PUA coach account to dump money to HQ's account. DC admits to playing on the account. HQ did not have $100k ton wire as he claimed as he had owed me 3x that in this same time period. The HSNL group backs off ITT after receiving big amounts from DC.

    After realizing I was dealing with a criminal, someone who in fact hired a hitman to scare someone who owed him while this person was out to dinner with family in NYC, asked for my escrow and %. All of DC's money was in FTP which was locked from 2011-2014. He sold his entire account for a discount, spent all of his money on a house in LA 1616 Glen Rising in Hollywood. He would be staked by Paul Phua later same backer for TD. DC would blow smoke about TD not finishing, but they've already settled privately and not revealing anything more. Isaac Haxton and Justin Bonomo were supposed to be arbitrators from the beginning which both TD/DC agreed on. They have never been involved although JB has publicly stated he has a lot of money bet on JM.

    At first DCs excuse was I have to sell this house. Now he's non-responsive and or can't pay. Last anyone has hear from him was him getting caught playing on a fishes account. Claims he's quitting poker

    Seeking advice, any criticism of me is welcome.
  • cincinnatikid513
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #2
    know when to fold em
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    • stevek173
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 03-29-08
      • 27598

      #3
      Know when to walk away
      Comment
      • MinnesotaFats
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-18-10
        • 14758

        #4
        Do you have a contract? If he hasn't filled a ch 7 you at least have a shot at future earnings....

        But don't chase, you'll go broke.
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 04-04-11
          • 37450

          #5
          A few observations:

          1) No surprise that TD went busto multiple times. Watch him play, how could he not? At a minimum, he's high-variance and bound to go on huge swings. I have been TD back at the tables! How is that possible...if he still owes?

          2) Wait a minute. DC is a losing player? What happened to DC being an animal winning player? Goes to show that it can happen to anyone. How advanced and opponent-specific would the BEST poker player have to be?

          3) Have u heard Bill Perkins' story when out w/ DC?
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
          Comment
          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #6
            Comment
            • Al Masters
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-29-06
              • 6940

              #7
              Originally posted by SorryImLate
              Hello everyone. Maybe the standard move in this situation would be to post on a poker forum, but seems like most of anyone who is anyone stays away. I respect this communities opinions even if it turns out to be the place for my issue.
              Have no issue revealing myself, and a few people who know of these characters might be able to identify me and that's fine just prefer to not be a target. I'm one of the very few who 'knows' of all this.

              In 2008, Tom Dwan was far ahead in a 50k hand match with Patrik Antonious and never finished the match nor declared victory. There was a sidebet of TD laying 1.5m to 500k. There has been no issues since they stopped playing late in the match with TD up big. Assuming the obvious, they settled their score and most likely it was Patrik who no longer wanted the action and conceded the side bet money. PA has never addressed this publicly nor has there ever been a public issue with the match. Side action between outsiders likely, but no one ever questioned the result.

              A year later Daniel Cates agreed to play the same format and the match became a spectacle in the HS community and drew tons of sidebets that TD and DC were well aware of. 3 of TD's personal friends(Peter Jetten, David Viffer Peat, and Justin Smith) were booking big action on TD which TD was well aware of. I had a % of DC direct with him and we were pretty close at the time. I had to fork over the same % of the 500k to DC to escrow with Phil Ivey. TD never escrowed with PI and may or may not be falling back on this idea that Full Tilt Poker, who he was a red pro with, (Salary + 100% rakeback) was responsible.

              There was a 3 month period where TD appeared to be broke. $28,674.35 on $2/400 tables. He also claimed that I was helping DC. That wasn't true and DC was one of the best, nor did I spend any time in the tank with DC over a year of action. A few months went by and TD disappeared. DC get texts from TD saying he wants to give late penatly $. I confirm with DC that that would count towards %. DC loses a few bets with me and do not see him much in the 6 months.

              Haseeb Qureshi had lived with DC for a year and they were close. I was staking HQ for online, a journey that could be broken into 4 parts. Losing, Losing 400k to a good pro under no supervision or stoploss, claim of getting trojaned on Cake poker, and then disappearing after losing a bet to me. 6 months later a HSNL group comes forward claiming they've been trojan horsed by HQ's 'student'. To avoid connection HQ used DC's PUA coach account to dump money to HQ's account. DC admits to playing on the account. HQ did not have $100k ton wire as he claimed as he had owed me 3x that in this same time period. The HSNL group backs off ITT after receiving big amounts from DC.

              After realizing I was dealing with a criminal, someone who in fact hired a hitman to scare someone who owed him while this person was out to dinner with family in NYC, asked for my escrow and %. All of DC's money was in FTP which was locked from 2011-2014. He sold his entire account for a discount, spent all of his money on a house in LA 1616 Glen Rising in Hollywood. He would be staked by Paul Phua later same backer for TD. DC would blow smoke about TD not finishing, but they've already settled privately and not revealing anything more. Isaac Haxton and Justin Bonomo were supposed to be arbitrators from the beginning which both TD/DC agreed on. They have never been involved although JB has publicly stated he has a lot of money bet on JM.

              At first DCs excuse was I have to sell this house. Now he's non-responsive and or can't pay. Last anyone has hear from him was him getting caught playing on a fishes account. Claims he's quitting poker

              Seeking advice, any criticism of me is welcome.

              Have you tried SBR poker?
              Comment
              • gauchojake
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-17-10
                • 34116

                #8
                I think there's an alt right shithole that still cares about poker
                Comment
                • unlearn
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-22-14
                  • 9041

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gauchojake
                  I think there's an alt right shithole that still cares about poker
                  8th tier obv
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                  • gauchojake
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-17-10
                    • 34116

                    #10
                    Originally posted by unlearn
                    8th tier obv


                    exactly
                    Comment
                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ryermkd
                      Comment
                      • cincinnatikid513
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-23-17
                        • 45360

                        #12
                        milking cows 32 hours a day
                        Comment
                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65084

                          #13
                          Interesting


                          But what do you want us to do?



                          You need a fukkin winner pal?
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                          • SorryImLate
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 06-02-21
                            • 22

                            #14
                            dgaf about it all, can't lie
                            Comment
                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65084

                              #15
                              whats your net worth?


                              you must care a bit since you posted


                              IF TRUE, dont blame you
                              Comment
                              • cincinnatikid513
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-23-17
                                • 45360

                                #16
                                poker in the rear
                                Comment
                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                  poker in the rear
                                  Comment
                                  • Gruntworker
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-12-11
                                    • 777

                                    #18
                                    Honestly, you are better off just posting about it on 2+2 for this to be in the eyes of more people in the community. Without any signed contracts, you are going to have a hard time collecting. Good luck to you man. That sucks.
                                    Comment
                                    • Auto Donk
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-03-13
                                      • 43558

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                      poker in the rear
                                      liquor in the front
                                      Comment
                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                        liquor in the front
                                        Comment
                                        • Auto Donk
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-03-13
                                          • 43558

                                          #21
                                          know when to lay the pipe
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                                          • SorryImLate
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 06-02-21
                                            • 22

                                            #22
                                            Can't figure out how to post pictures.
                                            Comment
                                            • SorryImLate
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 06-02-21
                                              • 22

                                              #23
                                              ?

                                              Still can't
                                              Comment
                                              • SorryImLate
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 06-02-21
                                                • 22

                                                #24





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