How Is Gruden Not Fired??

**cincinnatikid513** · 12-26-20, 11:56 PM

i would love to hear brent musburgers call of the ending to this game

**Mike Huntertz** · 12-26-20, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by seaborneq

Any pass caught in bounds ends the game and the Raiders win. Let the Dolphins catch the ball in bounds and tackle him. Game over. Sidelines should not have been an option. Raiders didn’t play the situation. Any pass thrown to the sidelines should have been intercepted. Thats the only way you lose that game. Not a coaching thing, but a player awareness thing.

A Vegas TD and the FG isn't an option....Chuckie phucked up!

**Kermit** · 12-27-20, 12:01 AM

Anyone else feel like tomorrow is Monday? Between yesterday and today with football, it feels like I should be going back to work tomorrow.

**KRIT** · 12-27-20, 02:46 AM

Gruden is an idiot. Only scenario you pass up the TD to kick is if time is pretty much all but gone.

Ask any OC, they’d much rather be down 2 with 20 seconds than 6 with a minute to go. It’s really hard to score a TD in the NFL. A FG, not so much.

**ThaTopMoron** · 12-27-20, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by KRIT

Gruden is an idiot. Only scenario you pass up the TD to kick is if time is pretty much all but gone.

Ask any OC, they’d much rather be down 2 with 20 seconds than 6 with a minute to go. It’s really hard to score a TD in the NFL. A FG, not so much.

exactly, you don't call to go down at the 1 then do a str8 qb kneel if you know you can only run the clock down to around 25 sec before the fg kick...

amazing! then they grab a facemask while also failing to defend the sidelines appropriately...

but i mean... we all saw the minny miracle correct??? dude literally TOOK A DIVE

**flyingillini** · 12-27-20, 05:06 AM

He belongs broadcasting not coaching.

**VeggieDog** · 12-27-20, 06:01 AM

Which Gruden are you talking about? You could say the same thing about the Harbaughs and the Ryan brothers. They all suck.

**jjgold** · 12-27-20, 06:13 AM

Veggie yes

I am fuming..this game costed me parlays too

**flyingillini** · 12-27-20, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Veggie yes

I am fuming..this game costed me parlays too

JJ, fax me a nude.

**Enkhbat** · 12-27-20, 07:19 AM

I am sure he will be back, bit premature to fire him over that game only. He is doing a decent job give how awful his defense is.

**seaborneq** · 12-27-20, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Enkhbat

I am sure he will be back, bit premature to fire him over that game only. He is doing a decent job give how awful his defense is.

He got rid of Mack before he could play another game. Gave Amari Cooper away for beans. Yet he has had to fire his defensive coordinator and wonders why he can’t out score every other team. Waller is his best player and his best running back stays hurt. He won’t make the playoffs next year either. Average is the best the Raiders can do under gruden.

**BuckyOne** · 12-27-20, 09:55 AM

Would like to see a screen shot of the whole field on that play (anybody have it?)

Some kind of cover 2/ deep zone. Miami had them scouted and knew there was a seam there. QB was throwing to a spot:

**johnnyvegas13** · 12-27-20, 10:10 AM

Raiders shoulda scored the td w a min left

rather then fg w 20 sec left

that was on Gruden

**JayLA** · 12-27-20, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by BuckyOne

Would like to see a screen shot of the whole field on that play (anybody have it?)

Some kind of cover 2/ deep zone. Miami had them scouted and knew there was a seam there. QB was throwing to a spot:

I think Flores' coaching staff is underrated in terms of planning for specific teams and half time adjustments. It wouldn't surprise me if they did have something scouted....maybe the safety looking at the QBs eyes too much. Fitzpatrick said he looked the safety off.

Here's an interesting tweet that shows how the play played out and that claims it's the third most "improbable" throw and catch this year. Doesn't really account for the QB throwing the ball with his head turned around imo.

https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1343050918242226177?s=19

Anyone know how to embed? Too lazy to change to desktop mode

**Bluehorseshoe** · 12-27-20, 10:30 AM

He did the right thing.

It took some guy being super open 45 yards downfield with a 15 yard face mask added on to lose.

**asiagambler** · 12-27-20, 10:33 AM

Raiders would have lost anyway. 1 minute is too much time for Fitzpatrick to get a game winning TD drive

**johnnyvegas13** · 12-27-20, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

He did the right thing.

It took some guy being super open 45 yards downfield with a 15 yard face mask added on to lose.

That was what happened

but really all u need is a penalty for fg range

just imo anyway

liberty made same mistake vs coastal as well

**asiagambler** · 12-27-20, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by JayLA

I think Flores' coaching staff is underrated in terms of planning for specific teams and half time adjustments. It wouldn't surprise me if they did have something scouted....maybe the safety looking at the QBs eyes too much. Fitzpatrick said he looked the safety off.

Here's an interesting tweet that shows how the play played out and that claims it's the third most "improbable" throw and catch this year. Doesn't really account for the QB throwing the ball with his head turned around imo.

https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1343050918242226177?s=19

Anyone know how to embed? Too lazy to change to desktop mode

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ryan Fitzpatrick's 34-yard pass to Mack Hollins to set up a game-winning field goal had a completion probability of 10.9%, the 3rd-most improbable completion this season.<br><br>➤ Air Distance: 45.3 yards<br>➤ QB Under Pressure<br>➤ Sideline Distance: 0.4 yards<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MIAvsLV?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw ">#MIAvsLV</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FinsUp?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#FinsUp</a> <a href="https://t.co/EPLja4ZTUZ">pic.twitter.com/EPLja4ZTUZ</a></p>— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1343050918242226177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**jjgold** · 12-27-20, 10:56 AM

He was never a good coach he inherited a Super Bowl winner

**JIBBBY** · 12-27-20, 11:51 AM

Raiders weren't suppose to be that good this year. Chucky still building a roster. Give coach some time. Raiders will be back and better next year.

**pavyracer** · 12-27-20, 01:33 PM

He did the right thing. Gurley scored a TD for Falcons and the Lions game back and scored a TD with 1 min left.

If jjgold wasn't mowing lawns he would have (not) been a football coach.

**hotcross** · 12-27-20, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

i would love to hear brent musburgers call of the ending to this game

"Jackpot Baby"

Brent had the OVER

**hawkeye 16** · 12-27-20, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

i would love to hear brent musburgers call of the ending to this game

I listened to it online. He said "I don't believe what I just saw" The way he said it, makes me believe he had Raiders ml. Brent likes to gamble.

**clockwise1965** · 12-27-20, 05:48 PM

They own him to much money. He's going no where.