Wait, how is this a bad thing? I saw Strasburg was a scratch, bet Yankees -1.5 at +130, line moves to -135. So I'm locked in at +130? What am I missing here? Will they void?
5Dimes Decides not to List Pitchers In MLB the Day After Season Starts ....WTF?
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dmmSBR MVP
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trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
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#37It’s not bad if this is your approach. But I bet the night before when lines come out based on a model that uses the starting pitcher + bullpens to project the line. I have a normal job and life and can’t babysit the lineups. Do you really think the books would make this move if they weren’t getting destroyed by bettors who rely on models?Originally posted by dmmWait, how is this a bad thing? I saw Strasburg was a scratch, bet Yankees -1.5 at +130, line moves to -135. So I'm locked in at +130? What am I missing here? Will they void?
again, I don’t have any problem with a book going to action, that’s their prerogative. But when they wait until the day AFTER the season starts....knowing full well many make deposits for the start of season....it’s engaging in false and deceptive business practices.
1)There was no advertisement until the second day of mlb
2) there was no attempt by their management to refund deposits without payout fees
Need to legalize gambling across the United States ASAP so we can stop having to deal with these shady offshore booksComment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
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#38One final note and I’ll let this go. It’s rather disconcerting SBR reputes itself as a medium to give honest reveiws of sportsbooks. I am not naive and understood they were in bed with the books. But incorrectly assumed they were still providing some form of a service. In the end, as many as great people there are it’s mostly a lot of fake posters shilling for the highest bidding sportsbooks and touts and many of the responses in this prove this.Comment -
Mr KLCBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#39IMO, it's no different than handicapping the NHL while you are waiting on the official word on who the goaltender will be.Comment -
funnyb25BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#40Difference is there was never an option to bet Listed GoaltendersOriginally posted by Mr KLCIMO, it's no different than handicapping the NHL while you are waiting on the official word on who the goaltender will be.Comment -
lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer
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#41Starting July, 25, 2020: For the remainder of the 2020 MLB regular season, listed pitchers will not be available. All baseball wagers, regardless of the starting pitcher, will have action unless otherwise specified.
not their fault what are they supposed to wait 2 hrs to post the line before the game? lolComment -
johnnyvegas13BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#42AgreeOriginally posted by lonegambler23Starting July, 25, 2020: For the remainder of the 2020 MLB regular season, listed pitchers will not be available. All baseball wagers, regardless of the starting pitcher, will have action unless otherwise specified.
not their fault what are they supposed to wait 2 hrs to post the line before the game? lolComment -
carolinakidSBR Posting Legend
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#43the main thing with any book, how long does it take get to get paid, maybe someone here can chime in and let us know on 5 dimes........Comment -
RockBottomSBR MVP
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#44Bookmaker (?) switched to action later in the season last year because of the 1-inning starters, it eliminated the problem between that and late scratches. It will take some getting used to.Originally posted by trobin31It’s not bad if this is your approach. But I bet the night before when lines come out based on a model that uses the starting pitcher + bullpens to project the line. I have a normal job and life and can’t babysit the lineups. Do you really think the books would make this move if they weren’t getting destroyed by bettors who rely on models?
again, I don’t have any problem with a book going to action, that’s their prerogative. But when they wait until the day AFTER the season starts....knowing full well many make deposits for the start of season....it’s engaging in false and deceptive business practices.
1)There was no advertisement until the second day of mlb
2) there was no attempt by their management to refund deposits without payout fees
Need to legalize gambling across the United States ASAP so we can stop having to deal with these shady offshore booksComment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
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#45That was posted on the 2nd day of mlb season.Originally posted by lonegambler23Starting July, 25, 2020: For the remainder of the 2020 MLB regular season, listed pitchers will not be available. All baseball wagers, regardless of the starting pitcher, will have action unless otherwise specified.
not their fault what are they supposed to wait 2 hrs to post the line before the game? lol
Do you have a cognitive issue? Did you even read or understand what the issue is?????!
just go back to eating matchesComment -
teacher10SBR MVP
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#46It sucks that they changed the rules the day after the season started and not before. At least they were honest about it and posted it in the betting page where everyone can see it. I'm curious do you have a lot of money stored on 5dimes, why not just cash out and go to a different site?Originally posted by trobin31That was posted on the 2nd day of mlb season.
Do you have a cognitive issue? Did you even read or understand what the issue is?????!
just go back to eating matchesComment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
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#47Thanks guys.Originally posted by pologqwagerweb shows pitchers too and voids when they do not start
i am just gonna cash out of 5dimes.
I have an account with BETDSI I use for boxing and props and looks like they still list for pitchers. I have to wait for payout and leave what I use for nfl there. Unless they decide to list quarterbacks after the 1st week of season...lol. The shame is I have always liked using 5dimes’ platform for baseball and football but this has left a bad taste in my mouth and really makes you question their leadership. Probably for the best before it bites me in the ass bigger than already has. I’m just gonna accept the payout fee and move on but this had to be said on moral principles.Comment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
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#48Thanks bud. Hope all is well!Originally posted by pimikeYep Heritage as well. Way it’s suppose to be.Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
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#49Betonline went back to the old rules effective Monday.Comment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
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#50Important Message For MLB RulesOriginally posted by lakerboyBetonline went back to the old rules effective Monday.
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For the MLB games starting on Sunday, July 26th, 2020 we will revert back to our original rules.
Moneyline wagers will once again have action after the game goes 5 innings (4.5 innings if the home team is winning).
The game NO LONGER has to go 8.5/9 innings for Moneyline bets to have action.
Someone needs to explain this to me..thanks in advanceComment -
lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer
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#51not long at all, gotten paid thousands of dollars last 10 years from them no complaints hereOriginally posted by carolinakidthe main thing with any book, how long does it take get to get paid, maybe someone here can chime in and let us know on 5 dimes........Comment -
lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer
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#52go back to your madeup model lmaoOriginally posted by trobin31That was posted on the 2nd day of mlb season.
Do you have a cognitive issue? Did you even read or understand what the issue is?????!
just go back to eating matchesComment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
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#53Yep gonna stick with my made up up model based on data. It works for me. Do what works for you. Best of luck.Originally posted by lonegambler23go back to your madeup model lmaoComment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
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#54A credit to them. A straight bet winner which is recognized by the actual league they play in should be recognized by the book that takes the bet. I'm glad they realized this.Originally posted by lakerboyBetonline went back to the old rules effective Monday.Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
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#55This.Originally posted by pimikeYep Heritage as well. Way it’s suppose to be.Comment -
POTVINSUXSBR MVP
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#56You actually believe a China man ate a bat?! BTW Laker is a Shill..move onOriginally posted by pabonaparteLife happns, trobin31. Not sure anyone is to blame for this unfortunate situation. Maybe the Chinese person who ate that bat?Comment -
DISTROYASBR MVP
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#57Can someone clarify a question on an action bet? If you bet "action", say you get a -140 price. Pitching change happens. Do they adjust your -140 as well according to the new line/pitchers going? Or you stay put with your original juice before the pitching change?Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
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#58Depends on whether you bet listed pitchers and what book you are playing at.Originally posted by DISTROYACan someone clarify a question on an action bet? If you bet "action", say you get a -140 price. Pitching change happens. Do they adjust your -140 as well according to the new line/pitchers going? Or you stay put with your original juice before the pitching change?Comment -
shocka1212SBR Posting Legend
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#59Better than betting on horses and simulated video gamesComment -
pimikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#60If it’s action only, you get final line final rotationOriginally posted by Mr. TeaserDepends on whether you bet listed pitchers and what book you are playing at.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
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#61There are two definitions of "Action" depending on whether you are talking about BETTING Action or LISTING Action.Originally posted by DISTROYACan someone clarify a question on an action bet? If you bet "action", say you get a -140 price. Pitching change happens. Do they adjust your -140 as well according to the new line/pitchers going? Or you stay put with your original juice before the pitching change?
BETTING Action: This is the one most people are familiar with, it means betting Action when there are listed pitchers and you get the new price if there is a pitching change. This is NOT what is going on at 5 Dimes, Bookmaker and BOL.
LISTING Action: This is when Action is literally listed as the starting pitcher, exactly what the 3 books mentioned are doing (If there are no pitchers displayed, it is exact same thing as Listing Action). In this case, you always get the odds you placed the bet at no matter what.
EDIT: I just checked, Bookmaker lists "Action" for all pitchers while 5 Dimes and BOL don't display pitchers at all. Both mean the same thing and fall under "LISTING Action" definition.Comment -
DISTROYASBR MVP
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#62Thx guys, so if I place an MLB wager at like say, bookmaker that has no listed pitchers just says "action" that price is locked-in, no matter who starts/gets scratched?Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
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#63Bingo! Also many legal USA books have been doing this all along with no listed pitchers, the SugarHouse gang to name one.Originally posted by DISTROYAThx guys, so if I place an MLB wager at like say, bookmaker that has no listed pitchers just says "action" that price is locked-in, no matter who starts/gets scratched?Comment -
carolinakidSBR Posting Legend
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#64all i can tell you people i know that was in 5 dimes yrs ago are not in 5 dimes today.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
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#65Something not yet mentioned is that Totals and Run Lines also have action with no listed pitchers. They remain auto-refunds with pitching change if there are listed pitchers (Heritage, Pinnacle, etc.)Comment -
milwaukee mikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#66and alternate run lines, props (team to score first, score in 1st inning, rhe, etc) are action at 5dimes/betonline/bookmakerOriginally posted by LT ProfitsSomething not yet mentioned is that Totals and Run Lines also have action with no listed pitchers. They remain auto-refunds with pitching change if there are listed pitchers (Heritage, Pinnacle, etc.)
what major books still have listed pitchers? i see pinnacle/heritage/jazz/intertopsComment -
funnyb25BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#67Lol...this thread still going on..Comment -
lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer
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#68so i guess they should wait for nba lineups too? wait til rotoworld comes out with all injuries plus starting lineupsComment -
shocka1212SBR Posting Legend
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#692 more pages...... -160 No..... +140 yes.....Originally posted by funnyb25Lol...this thread still going on..Comment -
44 MagBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#70Wait??? What is the big deal ??? They told you what they were listing, if we don't like don't bet and move on????
Nobody uses a model more than LT, and he doesn't seem to have a problem??? I don't know why I even jumped in here???
I like Trobin I guess. BOL my man.
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