TB Rays starter ace Blake Snell will not play for a cut in pay

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  • TheMetsSuck
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-14-12
    • 6146

    #36
    Originally posted by Plaza23
    They paid you for a 162 game season. If there’s only 80 played, why should you get the same salary? The team certainly isn’t making the same amount by having fewer games. Why would the employees get paid full for working part time?
    That would seem to make the most sense prorating their salaries based on how many games are played but the owners aren’t offering that.

    Prince fielder will be the highest played payer this season at 24 million guaranteed bc of a clause in his contract
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65674

      #37
      Originally posted by TommieGunshot
      Based on this, the real problem is management, who want to pay players less than 50% of their salary, even if the season is 50% long. Owners want to reduce pay by 50% for playing only half a season, which Snell is perfectly fine with. Owners want to reduce pay even more (without even saying the exact amount) due to lost ticket sales from playing in empty stadiums, which Snell disagrees with.
      I understand the knee jerk reaction to pointing at the owners and saying they are to blame, but that's not lose sight of the fact a lot of the owners have some empathy of the groundskeepers, concession workers etc. and are paying them.

      Not all sports owners are the evil greedy bastards that some make them out to be.
      It's rare I take the side of ownership, but in this case I am.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #38
        Death rate zero athletes

        pussies
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        • TommieGunshot
          SBR MVP
          • 03-27-12
          • 1607

          #39
          Originally posted by stevenash
          What's the matter Blake? Can't live on 3 and a half million this year instead of seven million?
          Snell is saying the exact opposite. He is saying he is perfectly fine to live on zero.

          Of course, right now the owners are offering less than $3.5 million from Snell's $7 million contract for an 81-game season: https://www.si.com/johnwallstreet/sp...lb-2020-season
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          • TommieGunshot
            SBR MVP
            • 03-27-12
            • 1607

            #40
            Originally posted by stevenash
            I understand the knee jerk reaction to pointing at the owners and saying they are to blame, but that's not lose sight of the fact a lot of the owners have some empathy of the groundskeepers, concession workers etc. and are paying them.

            Not all sports owners are the evil greedy bastards that some make them out to be.
            It's rare I take the side of ownership, but in this case I am.
            Then Snell sitting out this season would be great for everyone: the team owners can take the money he would have been paid and use that to pay all those other workers.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65674

              #41
              Originally posted by TommieGunshot
              Snell is saying the exact opposite. He is saying he is perfectly fine to live on zero.

              Of course, right now the owners are offering less than $3.5 million from Snell's $7 million contract for an 81-game season: https://www.si.com/johnwallstreet/sp...lb-2020-season
              According to that story, yes.
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              • swordsandtequila
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-23-12
                • 9758

                #42
                Originally posted by Plaza23
                They paid you for a 162 game season. If there’s only 80 played, why should you get the same salary? The team certainly isn’t making the same amount by having fewer games. Why would the employees get paid full for working part time?
                He (and the rest of the players) aren't asking for their full salary. They're asking for what was agreed to back in March, a prorated portion of their salary. Play half the season, get half your pay. The owners are now trying to renege and take a 50/50 split, which amounts to about another 15% less. In essence, half season for 35% pay. In addition they'd be on lockdown when on the road, confined to hotel after games, no family, no friends, etc. Fuk that. None of you would agree to those terms, why should they? Yeah he came across like a douche (like most 20 somethings on social media) but he ain't wrong.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82839

                  #43
                  Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                  Then Snell sitting out this season would be great for everyone: the team owners can take the money he would have been paid and use that to pay all those other workers.
                  It doesn't work that way. Fans want the team to win. They don't want to see Joe Blow lose all the games their star pitcher would have won.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #44
                    Harper also better be careful

                    Companies will pull his endorsements if he doesn’t shut Up
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                    • swordsandtequila
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-23-12
                      • 9758

                      #45
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Harper also better be careful

                      Companies will pull his endorsements if he doesn’t shut Up
                      He's got a $330 million contract, but he thanks you for your concern
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                      • TommieGunshot
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-27-12
                        • 1607

                        #46
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        It doesn't work that way. Fans want the team to win. They don't want to see Joe Blow lose all the games their star pitcher would have won.
                        Explain why when management goes against their agreement they made back months ago to pay players their prorated salary, and now wants to pay even less than that, sbr comes out against the players, saying they should be willing to play for a prorated salary. The trolls coming out of sbr have reached new levels of idiotic logic. Congratulations.
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                        • stevenash
                          Moderator
                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65674

                          #47
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Harper also better be careful

                          Companies will pull his endorsements if he doesn’t shut Up
                          Harper has grown up a lot in the past couple of years.
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                          • stake1
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-19-18
                            • 18116

                            #48
                            Arenado coming out in full support of Snell too.
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                            • stake1
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-19-18
                              • 18116

                              #49
                              "I think he was being honest, just being real. He made a lot of good points," Arenado told the Athletic's Ken Rosenthal."There are some points he made that were true, that are facts. A lot of it gets misperceived. Trying to get the public to understand us, it’s not going to work very well in our favor."
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