Did you know states are not counting nursing home COVID 19 deaths/cases?

Booya711 · 05-14-20, 04:07 PM

Yes and I also know that hospitals are reporting deaths as Covid related when they aren’t

Kermit · 05-14-20, 04:09 PM

I was under the assumption they were counting them which is why the age of coronovirus death was so high.

Mr KLC · 05-14-20, 04:11 PM

Not true in Tennessee. Misleading title. You say "states" but only supply Pennsylvania.

Sam Odom · 05-14-20, 04:12 PM

FAKE FUKING NEWS

19th Hole · 05-14-20, 04:21 PM

Has this been fact checked?

Unaware of the real death total.
What about random deaths of
folks dying at home from coronavirus/ non-coronavirus?

Without testing how would any number be factual?

bballs84 · 05-14-20, 04:29 PM

CA is most Def counting them.. See it in County numbers daily

lakerboy · 05-14-20, 04:36 PM

Covid would hardly exist if it wasn't for long term care homes

Mr KLC · 05-14-20, 04:42 PM

Health officials announced Thursday just over half of all COVID-19 deaths in Los Angeles County were residents living in "institutional settings," including nursing facilities.

jjgold · 05-14-20, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Covid would hardly exist if it wasn't for long term care homes

exactly

PAULYPOKER · 05-14-20, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Covid would hardly exist if it wasn't for long term care homes

Almost LB and thanks for making me recheck my numbers as it's even worse
as I somehow forgot to count the Nursing home employee deaths!

Only 4,218 deaths are counted in PA

1,922 of the uncounted deaths in PA are nursing homes employees and they are definitely
nowhere near senior status but they were infected in a nursing home or brought it in and I'd bet on
the latter though but technically you're almost right..

2,896 deaths are PA nursing home residents........

2,896 + 1,922 = 4,818‬ total uncounted nursing home deaths!

4,818 uncounted deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count!Not7,114

2,896 ÷ 9,036 = 32% of total PA deaths are Nursing home residents......

1,922 ÷ 9,036 = 21.3% of total PA deaths are Nursing home employees.....

4,818‬ ÷ 9,036 = 53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........

53% of total PA deaths are not counted......

Now I gotta correct and edit the OP.......

PAULYPOKER · 05-14-20, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by bballs84

CA is most Def counting them.. See it in County numbers daily

Great would you care to post them?

PAULYPOKER · 05-14-20, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by 19th Hole

Has this been fact checked?

Unaware of the real death total.
What about random deaths of
folks dying at home from coronavirus/ non-coronavirus?

Without testing how would any number be factual?

Lol....What?

Rain Chains · 05-14-20, 10:14 PM

PA nursing home deaths are included in the 4k. They make up almost 70% of PA's deaths.

Redirect Notice

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-pennsylvania-nursing-homes-gov-tom-wolf-20200512.html%3foutputType=amp

PAULYPOKER · 05-14-20, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Rain Chains

PA nursing home deaths are included in the 4k. They make up almost 70% of PA's total.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inq...outputType=amp

Try again as nursing home deaths are

4,818 uncounted Nursing home deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count

53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........

Rain Chains · 05-14-20, 10:21 PM

Pauly, from the link I posted:

Of the more than 3,800 Pennsylvanians who have died of the coronavirus, more than two-thirds were residents of nursing or personal-care homes, according toPennsylvania Department of Health data

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-pennsylvania-nursing-homes-gov-tom-wolf-20200512.html%3foutputType=amp

Foxx · 05-14-20, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

+1,922 total nursing home employee deaths =4,818 uncounted PA deaths .........
Numbers below do not include 1,922 nursing home employee deaths

JFC Pauly. It's 1922 nursing home employee cases not deaths. Learn to read man.

themike78 · 05-14-20, 10:35 PM

All the guy does is post fake numbers that he makes up. It's fukin weird.

hawkwind · 05-14-20, 11:06 PM

Yawnnnnn, Total BS

Podes · 05-14-20, 11:10 PM

The Berks counter coroner has had different numbers from the state health department from like the 2nd week of the stay at home. That Ive personally confirmed

DwightShrute · 05-14-20, 11:18 PM

Fake news!

DwightShrute · 05-14-20, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Booya711

Yes and I also know that hospitals are reporting deaths as Covid related when they aren’t

Foxx · 05-14-20, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Try again as nursing home deaths are
4,818 uncounted Nursing home deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count
53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........

Damn Pauly. This is just flat out wrong. Maybe one of the mods can do you a favor and purge this thread as it's an embarrassment.

gauchojake · 05-14-20, 11:31 PM

In the la times they specifically spell out the number and percentage of cases and deaths in SNF and AL.

What they are having a hard time doing is splitting up the prison/jail cases. Inmates are trying to get each other sick and the cases are exploding in the jails and prisons. It's counting against the County numbers when it should be carved out. See Santa Barbara county.

lakerboy · 05-15-20, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Try again as nursing home deaths are

4,818 uncounted Nursing home deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count

53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........

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Pauly I understand it's not easy managing two accounts but stop with the nonsense

DrunkHorseplayer · 05-15-20, 12:34 AM

Take off the tinfoil hat.

PAULYPOKER · 05-15-20, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Foxx

JFC Pauly. It's 1922 nursing home employee cases not deaths. Learn to read man.

Aw fiddle fukk,I had the numbers right the 1st time........

These numbers are correct as they were in the original OP............

PA for instance.......
Gov.Says there are 4,218 deaths total in PA when in fact there are 7,114
total deaths after you add the nursing home resident and employee deaths 2,896
uncounted PA deaths .........

If every state is doing this there would be a prorated 59,113
more deaths than the real time total of 86,098 bringing the
total US deaths to 145,211.........

PA total case counts are actually 74,235 after you add
the Resident cases 12,677 and Employee cases 1,922...

Prorate this into the US Total cases 1,441,055 and the actual
number of total cases rises to 1,793,827

Case Counts, Deaths, and Negatives

Total Cases*	Deaths	Negative
59,636	4,218	251,559

County Case Counts to Date

County	Total Cases	Negatives	Deaths
Adams	174	1978	5
Allegheny	1551	21086	139
Armstrong	56	944	5
Beaver	512	2581	82
Bedford	30	401	1
Berks	3530	7921	196
Blair	32	1642	0
Bradford	41	1014	2
Bucks	4248	12806	395
Butler	199	2914	6
Cambria	45	2227	1
Cameron	2	84	0
Carbon	206	1527	17
Centre	128	1368	6
Chester	2008	7726	213
Clarion	24	570	1
Clearfield	33	701	0
Clinton	43	383	0
Columbia	333	946	31
Crawford	21	804	0
Cumberland	477	2617	37
Dauphin	895	6699	40
Delaware	5252	13045	448
Elk	6	226	1
Erie	127	2876	3
Fayette	87	2352	4
Forest	7	44	0
Franklin	563	3852	15
Fulton	11	140	0
Greene	27	559	1
Huntingdon	200	547	0
Indiana	82	938	5
Jefferson	7	396	0
Juniata	94	236	1
Lackawanna	1256	3893	135
Lancaster	2364	10730	183
Lawrence	71	950	7
Lebanon	856	3430	19
Lehigh	3378	9903	133
Luzerne	2477	7383	124
Lycoming	139	1565	7
McKean	8	307	1
Mercer	81	1009	2
Mifflin	54	919	0
Monroe	1240	3798	69
Montgomery	5583	23000	587
Montour	50	2984	0
Northampton	2566	8889	182
Northumberland	132	944	0
Perry	36	424	1
Philadelphia	15624	39263	1000
Pike	454	1587	21
Potter	4	108	0
Schuylkill	490	2920	14
Snyder	33	287	1
Somerset	32	1070	1
Sullivan	1	64	0
Susquehanna	82	461	14
Tioga	16	397	1
Union	43	699	1
Venango	7	338	0
Warren	2	228	0
Washington	129	2932	4
Wayne	107	685	5
Westmoreland	422	6533	32
Wyoming	31	296	4
York	817	9413	15

I added all the deaths above to confirm
the number they're claiming 4,218
as they are correct......

COVID-19 Cases Associated with Nursing Homes and Personal Care Homes to Date

Facility County	Number of Facilities with Cases	Number of Cases Among Residents	Number of Cases Among Employees	Number of Deaths
ADAMS	3	23	4	4
ALLEGHENY	36	373	108	109
ARMSTRONG	1	5	6	3
BEAVER	3	339	25	75
BERKS	23	700	99	132
BLAIR	1	1	.	0
BUCKS	53	1356	298	315
BUTLER	6	13	10	2
CAMBRIA	1	1	.	0
CARBON	2	58	5	13
CENTRE	3	16	11	4
CHESTER	38	673	106	181
CLARION	1	1	1	0
CLEARFIELD	2	2	.	0
COLUMBIA	5	95	31	27
CUMBERLAND	8	232	57	36
DAUPHIN	3	217	48	26
DELAWARE	39	1485	256	363
ERIE	4	3	2	0
FAYETTE	1	3	.	1
FRANKLIN	5	78	13	7
HUNTINGDON	1	0	1	0
INDIANA	4	13	2	4
LACKAWANNA	15	547	91	117
LANCASTER	31	578	156	159
LAWRENCE	2	0	2	0
LEBANON	4	78	13	13
LEHIGH	26	576	115	103
LUZERNE	19	395	66	91
LYCOMING	3	67	12	8
MERCER	1	1	.	0
MIFFLIN	2	1	1	0
MONROE	8	146	44	34
MONTGOMERY	88	2107	104	494
NORTHAMPTON	15	607	148	112
NORTHUMBERLAND	1	1	.	0
PHILADELPHIA	57	1607	8	408
PIKE	2	31	4	8
SCHUYLKILL	9	56	17	2
SUSQUEHANNA	3	42	16	14
UNION	1	0	1	0
WASHINGTON	3	6	2	1
WAYNE	1	0	1	0
WESTMORELAND	9	134	34	27
YORK	6	10	4	3
PENNSYLVANIA	549	12677	1922	2896

In probable reality there are:

US total Cases = 1,793,827

US total Deaths = 145,211

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Cases.aspx

Booya711 · 05-15-20, 07:09 AM

This idiot is obsessed. It’s a virus motherfukker....it’s not going anywhere

Rain Chains · 05-15-20, 07:22 AM

Again, those deaths are included. The site is breaking them out. Pauly, you need help bud.

Quote from May 12:
Of the more than 3,800 Pennsylvanians who have died of the coronavirus, more than two-thirds were residents of nursing or personal-care homes, according to Pennsylvania Department of Health data

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-pennsylvania-nursing-homes-gov-tom-wolf-20200512.html%3foutputType=amp

PAULYPOKER · 05-15-20, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

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Pauly I understand it's not easy managing two accounts but stop with the nonsense

Exactly you have 4,294 deaths they are not counted in nursing homes.......

In the OP the PA GOVERNMENT says there are4,218 deaths
when in fact there are7,114 deaths when you add nursing home deaths.......
Go ahead and add the death total on the County Case Counts to Date
death section of chart.......

I'll bet you $100,000 there are exactly 4,218 deaths in that chart....

Here is the cases by county Chart.....

On the right of county total cases and deaths I've inserted the nursing home
cases and deaths color coded red.....

Lycoming county

bombshells any theory/belief of the state counting
nursing home deaths as the nursing home deaths are 8 and
the county's recorded deaths are 7.......

Cumberland county does as well 36/37

Lightbulbs are on state case/death numbers that are ludacris
to believe the nursing home deaths are actually counted
toward state recorded totals........

Case Counts, Deaths, and Negatives

Total Cases* Deaths Negative

59,636 4,218 251,559

County Case Counts to Date

County Total Cases Negatives Deaths

Adams 174-27 1978 5-4

Allegheny
1551--481 21086 139-109

Armstrong 56-11 944 5-3

Beaver 512-364 2581 82-75

Bedford 30-0 401 1-0

Berks
3530-799 7921 196-132

Blair 32-1 1642 0-0

Bradford 41-0 1014 2-0

Bucks 4248-1,409 12806 395-315

Butler 199-23 2914 6-2

Cambria 45-1 2227 1-0

Cameron 2-0 84 0-0

Carbon 206-63- 1527 17-13

Centre 128-27 1368 6-4

Chester
2008-779 7726 213-181

Clarion 24-2 570 1-0

Clearfield 33-2 701 0-0

Clinton 43 383 0

Columbia 333-126‬ 946 31-27

Crawford 21-0 804 0-0

Cumberland
477-289 2617 37-36

Dauphin 895-265 6699 40-26

Delaware 5252-1,741 13045 448-363

Elk 6-0 226 1-0

Erie 127-5 2876 3-0

Fayette 87-3 2352 4-1

Forest 7-0 44 0-0

Franklin 563-91 3852 15-7

Fulton 11-0 140 0-0

Greene 27-0 559 1-0

Huntingdon 200-1 547 0-0

Indiana 82-15 938 5-4

Jefferson 7-0 396 0-0

Juniata 94-0 236 1-0

Lackawanna
1256-638 3893 135-117

Lancaster
2364-734 10730 183-159

Lawrence 71-2 950 7-0

Lebanon
856-91 3430 19-13

Lehigh
3378-691 9903 133-103

Luzerne
2477-461 7383 124-91

Lycoming
139-79 1565 7-8
game over

McKean 8-0 307 1-0

Mercer 81-1 1009 2-0

Mifflin 54-2 919 0-0

Monroe 1240-190 3798 69-34

Montgomery
5583-2,211 23000 587-494

Montour 50-0 2984 0-0

Northampton
2566-755 8889 182-112

Northumberland 132-1 944 0-0

Perry 36-0 424 1-0

Philadelphia 15624-1615
39263 1000-408

Pike 454-35 1587 21-8

Potter 4-0 108 0-0

Schuylkill 490-73 2920 14-2

Snyder 33-0 287 1-0

Somerset 32-0 1070 1-0

Sullivan 1-0 64 0-0

Susquehanna
82-58 461 14-14
No way

Tioga 16-0 397 1-0

Union 43-1 699 1-0

Venango 7-0 338 0-0

Warren 2-0 228 0-0

Washington 129-8 2932 4-1

Wayne 107-1 685 5-0

Westmoreland
422-168 6533 32-27

Wyoming 31-0 296 4-0

York 817--14 9413 15-3

Chi_archie · 05-15-20, 09:16 AM

PA includes nursing home deaths and cases in their data

they just haven't been giving the specifics on which nursing homes and how many at each nursing home. They recently announced they would make those added details public.

Pa. will soon reveal coronavirus infections and deaths at nursing homes, identify facilities involved

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/05/numbers-of-covid-19-infections-and-deaths-at-nursing-homes-names-of-facilities-expected-to-be-revealed-monday.html

The state has previously released only general numbers, arguing that disclosing more would violate privacy.

Pennsylvania’s long-term care facilities, especially skilled nursing homes, are being hard-hit by COVID-19. As of Wednesday, 2,705 residents of nursing and personal care facilities had died — two-thirds of the state’s COVID-19 death toll.

Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine said Wednesday that 14,214 people have come down with COVID-19 at 543 facilities in 44 counties. About 1,800 employees of the facilities have tested positive.

Pennsylvania has about 700 nursing homes and about 1,200 personal care or similar facilities.

So far, the state has released the number of cases and deaths per county without naming facilities. State officials said they withheld more specific information to protect medical privacy.

PAULYPOKER · 05-15-20, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

PA includes nursing home deaths and cases in their data

they just haven't been giving the specifics on which nursing homes and how many at each nursing home. They recently announced they would make those added details public.

Pa. will soon reveal coronavirus infections and deaths at nursing homes, identify facilities involved

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/05/numbers-of-covid-19-infections-and-deaths-at-nursing-homes-names-of-facilities-expected-to-be-revealed-monday.html

The state has previously released only general numbers, arguing that disclosing more would violate privacy.

Pennsylvania’s long-term care facilities, especially skilled nursing homes, are being hard-hit by COVID-19. As of Wednesday, 2,705 residents of nursing and personal care facilities had died — two-thirds of the state’s COVID-19 death toll.

Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine said Wednesday that 14,214 people have come down with COVID-19 at 543 facilities in 44 counties. About 1,800 employees of the facilities have tested positive.

Pennsylvania has about 700 nursing homes and about 1,200 personal care or similar facilities.

So far, the state has released the number of cases and deaths per county without naming facilities. State officials said they withheld more specific information to protect medical privacy.

Pa. will soon reveal coronavirus infections and deaths at nursing homes, identify facilities involved
From the title of your linked article...........

b1slickguy · 05-15-20, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by hawkwind

Yawnnnnn, Total BS

This whole situation is BS.

Mackballs · 05-15-20, 09:36 AM

This guy went brain dead long ago.

Sad he is still allowed to post and make himself look dumber as the days go on.

Help him SBR.

PAULYPOKER · 05-15-20, 09:40 AM

Lol......all my numbers are from PA Government COVID 19 data......

An Official Pennsylvania Government Website

Meanwhile you guys are posting news articles which are totally worthless............

I calculated all of their data as my numbers are correct using their recorded data......

You will not find anything on the internet that gives you these numbers
cause no one has calculated the numbers but me..........

Crack is whack.........

Coronavirus

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Cases.aspx

Coronavirus

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So ya need to quit posting articles with no data cause they're worthless.......